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triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #525 on: May 21, 2010, 05:48:59 PM »
big m,I got to see those inverter plans because I used a different computer.I think a mechanical inverter is novel.I once made an interrupter which used a flashlight battery for power.I sent the interrupted current through a step up transformer and shocked myself several times that day.I guess the current is not squarewaved but close to it and messy.Your inverter reminded me of that device I made a long time ago.I used air as the medium but adding a capacitor to the points would have cleaned up the waveform.And less sparking would result.I used junk to make it so it didn't last too long.triffid
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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #526 on: May 21, 2010, 10:17:46 PM »
Quote from: triffid on May 21, 2010, 05:48:59 PM
big m,I got to see those inverter plans because I used a different computer.
Yeah, I borrow computers and they have .PDF compliers on the hard drive as a public service to free customers.  I download lots of wiring diagrams that way.
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I think a mechanical inverter is novel.I once made an interrupter which used a flashlight battery for power.I sent the interrupted current through a step up transformer and shocked myself several times that day.I guess the current is not squarewaved but close to it and messy.
Here's hartiberlin's rendering:

http://overunity.com/index.php?topic=3111.0  ,  Reply #5

This should last until the relay points wear out.  However, he needs to wire the relay contacts through the coil so the current in the coil energizes it, thus breaking the circuit until the spring reconnects the contacts to complete the circuit again as a chattering 'square wave' response with a frequency of, say, 15-25 Hz.
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Your inverter reminded me of that device I made a long time ago.I used air as the medium but adding a capacitor to the points would have cleaned up the waveform.And less sparking would result.I used junk to make it so it didn't last too long.triffid
I'll try to remember that about the capacitor.  I don't have a 'scope, so I'll have to take your word for it.  A diode between the relay and BEMF coil would take some voltage off the relay contacts.  They'd last longer, especially at relatively high voltage on the batterie(s).

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triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #527 on: May 21, 2010, 10:56:51 PM »
This guy made a boat out of cardboard .His method could be used to make a cardboard palace if one wanted it.So I hope to make at least one solar panel out of cardboard using some of these methods.triffid
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-a-cardboard-kayak-for-less-than-40/
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #528 on: May 22, 2010, 08:52:07 AM »
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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #529 on: May 23, 2010, 02:03:49 AM »
Quote from: triffid on May 21, 2010, 10:56:51 PM
This guy made a boat out of cardboard .His method could be used to make a cardboard palace if one wanted it.So I hope to make at least one solar panel out of cardboard using some of these methods.triffid
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-a-cardboard-kayak-for-less-than-40/
Be careful for rain, triffid.  I never hears of water repellent cardboard.
Wait, maybe I spoke too soon?

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat6794016.pdf

It might work after all, as long as way too much water doesn't flood your solar panel.

--Lee
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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #530 on: May 25, 2010, 04:20:24 AM »
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on May 21, 2010, 10:17:46 PM
Here's hartiberlin's rendering:

http://overunity.com/index.php?topic=3111.0  ,  Reply #5
Here are a couple of more:

http://overunity.com/index.php?topic=6734.0  ,  Reply #13 has the best drawing
http://overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.285  ,  Reply #285, top of page

(These make good starter systems, to be expanded and improved upon, for after the economy collapses.)

--Lee
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triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #531 on: May 25, 2010, 03:14:22 PM »
I tend to set my solar panels inside the house in the window.So hopefully the house will stay dry.
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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #532 on: May 25, 2010, 10:03:10 PM »
Quote from: triffid on May 25, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
I tend to set my solar panels inside the house in the window.So hopefully the house will stay dry.
I see what you mean.  No rain to get them wet.  However, you're limited on the amount of power you can generate.  Then, again, no one can complain about the unsightly roof installations, either.

I live San Francisco, so overcast fog, even downtown, is a problem---and I have only one window in my apartment.
You're doing pretty well on you own with what you have.

NEWS UPDATE:
Look out for a double-dip recession if the Gulf Coast oil spill throws many people out of work and/or the financial problems in the eurozone countries get worse.  Spain is being looked at in a contagious money crisis that will affect us as well If (drastic!!!) services or monetary cutbacks aren't enacted immediately.

--Lee
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X00013

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #533 on: May 27, 2010, 04:39:04 AM »
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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #534 on: May 27, 2010, 05:07:19 AM »
Quote from: X00013 on May 27, 2010, 04:39:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3e6QJMmCxQ&playnext_from=TL&videos=y5v3qvogJBE
@x00013
The computer room I was in didn't allow sound being played over the computer's speaker, but I agree with the premise of what I saw in the video.  "Get ready for the END," would be a good subtitled caption.  You have a point.

--Lee
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #535 on: May 28, 2010, 03:11:19 AM »
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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #536 on: June 02, 2010, 11:39:05 PM »
the_big_m_in_ok said:
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Here are a couple of more:
http://overunity.com/index.php?topic=6734.0  ,  Reply #13 has the best drawing
http://overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.285  ,  Reply #285, top of page
(These make good starter systems, to be expanded and improved upon, for after the economy collapses.)
@Cap-Z-ro
These drawings are from energetic forum, can be modified for a relay, I think:

http://energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2242-water-sparkplug.html   Replies #'s  2 & 12

(For reference as a DIY inverter, sort of)

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Also, Stefan's Shock Charging System:

http://www.intalek.com/Papers/Handout3.pdf  ,  pg. 21 of the manuscript
(NOTE: The secondary wires are reversed, thus making the coil opposite in direction of windings)

--Lee
« Last Edit: June 03, 2010, 12:15:15 AM by the_big_m_in_ok »
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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming... and this could hasten it...
« Reply #537 on: June 03, 2010, 11:48:20 PM »
@all
Take a look at this:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/scienceandsociety/2010/06/gulf-oil-spill-where-the-slick-may-go.html

After 75-85 days or so, the SHTF.  New England all the way to Maine gets it bad by 4 months, 1 1/2 weeks (132 days).  This could contribute to a seafood industry collapse costing a whole lot of money and jobs.  The news is full of dire news elsewhere around the world as well.  Not to mention the possibility of a depression or outright economic collapse.

I.  Hope.  Not.

--Lee
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #538 on: June 04, 2010, 06:53:21 AM »
actually, it is depend on USA how to survive. your ancestor give you a lot of technology to solve coming problem. it is right time to use it. even you guyz can make it in low cost device. why not? forget about oil and gas.... now it is the time to use tesla tech or magnetic energy by own...
china is now becoming richest country in the world... but they still dun have much on technology and majority the ppl there not really educated.
i don't why, USA can't make it. USA keep a lot of technology and a lot of talented people. majority educated. why economy still going down. 
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WilbyInebriated

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #539 on: June 04, 2010, 11:42:30 PM »
china has more honor students than america has students, so does india... do the math, their coming dominance is inevitable.
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