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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #510 on: May 11, 2010, 01:20:13 AM »
I got a bunch of solar cells,enough for about 10 panels for about $600 off of ebay.Maybe half of that was for P&H.The cheapest batch I bought was about .99 cents plus $4.95 for P&H for about 25 plus cells.I want to do away with the P&H.
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What do you think of this?  Are you mechanically inclined?
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/9639447/INVERTER-PLANS/

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #511 on: May 12, 2010, 05:17:12 AM »
I am more inclined towards electronics and chemistry.But my dad used to fix tvs and radios for a living.He had an electronics workshop in his basement in St.Louis,mo. After he retired he fixed tvs until the money dried up in it.When it became cheaper to buy a new one than fix the old one(about the 1980's).In the early 1950's he wired together radios for American Airlines.So people's lives depended on his radio skills.I would see him fix radios and tvs in the home,often at the kitchen table.So far I can solder some,read a diagram.As a result I can fix a lot of small appliances.I can replace fuses in microwaves.
I fixed a popcorn popper in college that someone had thrown out.So I don't fix tv's but I have worked on computers.Mostly the older ones.I don't fix cars but I have a brother who does.He can rebuild an engine.I am not that mechanically inclined.I like building sheds.I have built two so far.
I'm considering building a third one.My dad never learned how to work on computers.He never had the internet in his home.He died in 2009 at the age of 86.When he was in his mid-70s he closed up his electronics workshop in the basement.Said he was getting too old.


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #513 on: May 12, 2010, 05:27:27 AM »
To big m,I tried to access your diagram.But the link failed.I didn't use an inverter most of the time.I found it simpler to use 12 volts all the way keeping in mind that any wire connections over 20 feet long would result in unacceptable energy losses.triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #514 on: May 12, 2010, 09:14:07 AM »
Therese Neumann of Konnersreuth (Germany) did not eat or drink for 40 years. Documented.

Wikipedia says:
From the years of 1922 until her death in 1962, Therese Neumann  apparently consumed no food other than The Holy  Eucharist, and claimed to have drunk no water from 1926 until her  death. [8] In July 1927 a medical doctor and four Franciscan nurses kept a watch  on her 24 hours a day for a two-week period. They confirmed that she  had consumed nothing except for one consecrated sacred Host a day,  and had suffered no ill effects, loss of weight, or dehydration.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #515 on: May 12, 2010, 06:30:41 PM »
To big m,I tried to access your diagram.But A failed.
I just went back to the post in question and it loaded and ran as usual.  I've also come across the same problem with other users.  It works for me and not them.  No good reason why.
It was a hosting site with the retail inverter report from Creative Science uploaded to the server's hard drive.  Creative Science is always looking for a profit, so I don't know why Creative Science hasn't complained about it.
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I didn't use an inverter most of the time.I found it simpler to use 12 volts all the way keeping in mind that any wire connections over 20 feet long would result in unacceptable energy losses.triffid
Right, that's true.  Very heavy wire/cable is required for lengthy runs.  Photovoltaic systems are a prime example.

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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #516 on: May 12, 2010, 08:02:25 PM »
@triffid
With respect to your Reply #514:

My dad was an engineer who designed electronic instruments as part of his job function in the defense aerospace industry.  I did the same thing as you by looking over his shoulder when I was a teenager as he worked.  He retired and gave up that activity, except as a hobby, until he passed away recently.

We do have more in common.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #517 on: May 12, 2010, 08:13:09 PM »
Therese Neumann of Konnersreuth (Germany) did not eat or drink for 40 years. Documented.
@triffid
When I was a teenager in Southern Calif., a local rock-n-roll (KRLA, I think) radio station would regularly air documentary broadcasts involving New Age subjects.
One of these subjects had to do with the spiritual practice of raising the vibrations of the body to such a high level that the initiate stopped eating in public, for sure.  They may have been living off of spiritual 'prana' rather food eaten by mouth.  Prana is believed by the Hindus to sustain life.

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I see an economic diasater coming... with more telling signs...
« Reply #518 on: May 14, 2010, 02:46:03 AM »
Recent Internet article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37136518/ns/us_news-life/

More states like NV, CA and FL may resort to this tactic.  If they do the right thing and own up to their responsibility to cut costs, their residents will be more than a little unhappy, to make a staggering understatement.

As I said before, "There's no good answer" to this recessionary crisis.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #519 on: May 20, 2010, 03:01:00 AM »

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #520 on: May 20, 2010, 03:02:53 AM »
To big M,Our dads rocked!!!I Triffid

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #521 on: May 20, 2010, 03:09:40 AM »
To big M,that article about Ill may be the wave of the future.I hope its just the one state not paying its bills at all.I know that calif used IOU's.triffid

the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #522 on: May 20, 2010, 08:46:53 PM »
To big M,Our dads rocked!!!I Triffid
Riiiiiight!  That's why I know what I know about aerospace and transistor electronics/R&D electronic engineering.  That's what my Dad did.  It follows.
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To big M,that article about Ill may be the wave of the future.I hope its just the one state not paying its bills at all.I know that calif used IOU's.triffid
I, (unfortunately) anticipate Illinois' actions are a prelude for the future.  Look at Greece.  The world money/commodity markets are jittery because they may realize Greece merely put off the inevitable by borrowing more money from the EU Central Bank and the Germans.  The USA is heavily exposed to the EU debt borrowing crisis.  A certain American conservative analyst (Glenn Beck) indicates Greece's problems are coming here in the future.  What happens there, will happen here, eventually.

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« Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 04:35:13 AM by the_big_m_in_ok »

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