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Offline lancaIV

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4335 on: December 01, 2016, 09:34:34 PM »

The U.S. Geological Survey announced this week that they have determined that an area of west Texas known as the Wolfcamp shale of the Midland Basin, Permian Basin Province, contains 20 billion barrels of recoverable oil and 16 trillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas.. This would make it the largest oil and gas field in the United States, three times larger than the Bakken Shale area of North Dakota which has produced huge amounts of oil and gas in recent years and contributed the the United States becoming the largest producer of oil and gas in the world.

https://www.usgs.gov/news/usgs-estimates-20-billion-barrels-oil-texas-wolfcamp-shale-formation

http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=14431

http://www.kpmg.com/FR/fr/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/Documents/Shale-gas-global-m-and-a-trends.pdf

The international OPEC and U.S. oil politicians will try to have for the next future the crude oil barrel-price-level between 60 and 70 U.S.$,this is the average break-even level from shale gas to GPL .

http://www.marcellus.psu.edu/resources/PDFs/shalegas_GWPF.pdf

http://graphics.wsj.com/oil-barrel-breakdown/

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4335 on: December 01, 2016, 09:34:34 PM »

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4336 on: December 04, 2016, 01:55:27 PM »
       Sure, I agree.   He may or may not know something everyone else doesn't.   Be that as it may, the situation on the Pipeline route through the Plains States is getting serious.   The Native Americans there are getting more and more support from outside interests.   They'll defend their land to the death.   They have nothing without the land.   Death may the only way out for them.
       I'm Native American and I know why they think this way.   I'm related to them.   This could get ugly.

--Lee

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/09/why_the_sioux_battle_against_the_dakota_access_pipeline_is_such_a_big_deal.html

                  land and pride ( and independence )

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4337 on: December 28, 2016, 01:08:45 AM »
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/09/why_the_sioux_battle_against_the_dakota_access_pipeline_is_such_a_big_deal.html

                  land and pride ( and independence ) 

       Yes, I agree, as a Native American, myself.   I'm going to try and make the point:  Unfortunately, a dozen pipelines can begin construction all at once, and then, the oil companies can see if millions upon millions of protestors complain about it.   Trump can always use the law as a weapon against protest by relying on the National Security implications of that oil coming into the CONUS.

       Before my parents passed away from old age, they bought a 40-acre 'ranch', as my Mom put it, and it already had a pipeline that crossed a creek-and-pond-combination of land features with the actual pipe crossing right over the earthen dam in front of the pond.
       It was built before they bought the place, so they had to live with the pact that the oil company had the 'easement Right-of-Way'.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4338 on: December 30, 2016, 11:12:27 PM »
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/09/why_the_sioux_battle_against_the_dakota_access_pipeline_is_such_a_big_deal.html

                  land and pride ( and independence )
       And as a further point to reinforce my last post below:

https://www.lombardiletter.com/china-move-shows-fear-economic-collapse/4979/

https://www.lombardiletter.com/cause-global-economic-collapse-2017/3740/

https://www.lombardiletter.com/bank-could-drag-down-eurozone/4555/

       I think I said in the past that banks and goverments around the world are scrambling to keep the current world money market afloat in order to make the overall situation in terms of economic viability to look better than it really is.
       The longer this goes on, the harder the fall will probably be.
As this thread's subject entitles:
        The economy will collapse eventually, but it will happen, eventually.

--Lee


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4339 on: January 24, 2017, 01:03:34 AM »
        The economy will collapse eventually, but it will happen, eventually.
       https://www.lombardiletter.com/warren-buffett-indicator-predicts-stock-market-crash-in-2017/6076/

       About 15-20 yrs ago, I read an article that predicted the worldwide economy would suffer a Recession and economic activity would drop to half what is was at the start.   It would then remain that way until it finally will have collapsed completely---and millions would starve--to death.
       So far, to me, the prediction is holding true.   Things aren't going to get better in San Francisco, where I live, in the near---or far---future.
       Does anyone disagree with the paragraphs above?

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4339 on: January 24, 2017, 01:03:34 AM »
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4340 on: January 24, 2017, 05:01:38 AM »
This topic is amusing


And Ironic because our very reason for being here
---- the search for free energy -----
Inherently causes economic collapse
When we succeed in our goals, the economy will lose.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4341 on: January 24, 2017, 05:51:57 AM »
When the U.S was d-escalating the Vietnam war, two primary reasons were given
for this d-escalation.

1. To allow the south to establish its own military / defense and win the war on its own. (an impossibility)

2. To allow time for the U.S. economy to adapt, and so avoid a likely economic collapse.

Consider please.

The U.S. could have pulled out immediately, with out economic consequences. 

Simply by filling the bombs etc. with wheat flour instead of with explosives.
Then shipping them around, paying soldiers to pretend to fire them, shipping them back,
unpacking them, filling them with the same flour again and so on.

Pay the same price for the flour as for explosives and to the same corporations, who in turn pay
the same employees to mix flour instead of explosives and so on and on.

But no this is crazy and wasteful, and bombing people for the sake of an economy is not  !

                floor

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4341 on: January 24, 2017, 05:51:57 AM »
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4342 on: January 24, 2017, 11:12:40 PM »
This topic is amusing


And Ironic because our very reason for being here
---- the search for free energy -----
Inherently causes economic collapse
When we succeed in our goals, the economy will lose.
       In the time since I started this thread, I've paused and reflected a few times:
There are more than economic factors the can contribute to economic collapse...
       1) Belligerent Chinese and North Korean Communists
       2) ISIS and other organizations becoming more vicious and attacking many targets at once
       3) a 9+ point Richter-scale earthquake hitting Calif
       4) Same as #3, but for the Midwest or N. Utah(Salt Lake City)

There might be others, but those above were first in my mind.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4343 on: January 29, 2017, 12:04:22 AM »
       In the time since I started this thread, I've paused and reflected a few times:
There are more than economic factors the can contribute to economic collapse...
       1) Belligerent Chinese and North Korean Communists
       Pertaining to #1 above...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/dprk/2017/dprk-170127-sputnik01.htm?_m=3n.002a.1925.up0ao0822n.1rqz

       Right.   IMHO, both Communists and Fascists have a double standard:   A much better one in terms of positive conditions in their midst---and the opposite one for their 'perceived' enemies.   They only care about themselves and they can think all others can go hell.

       Unfortunately, their navy has improved ships and they're building more---(certainly!)---as I write.   That's where I come in for the West and Americans.   I'm doing work for a think tank and we'll see where that goes after that.   In due course, I'll be called in to work full time.

It's coming.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4344 on: February 06, 2017, 04:40:08 PM »
Hello again everyone,I've been busy with other projects and also waiting to see what Trump does.So I have not been here since last Nov.I,m convinced that Gold will keep going up in value as it has done all my life.I believe that it may hit the five thousand dollar an ounce mark.I know I cant eat gold but I'm now old enough to fish without a liscence in the state of Missouri. One of the perks? of turning 65?
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4345 on: February 12, 2017, 10:36:20 PM »
One of the perks? of turning 65?
triffid
       Maybe so, triffid.
I get to sit in the front of a Metro SF bus because I'm 69, now.   A disabled Vet, too.   Twice as good of a reason.

But, take a look at this...
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/765847/financial-crash-China-debt-bubble-economic-
disaster-2008

So.
My former critics on this board have shut up by now.   triffid never criticized my opinion.   He agrees:   The ecomomy is headed for a VERY high cliff, sooner or later.
       China is being run by Chinese Asian criminals who want to do anything they think will give them the most power in all possible things for their country and Asia in general.
       They're the greediest people I ever knew of.   AND, they can't have everything---even though that's what they want---at least in their part of the world.

Does anyone disagree?

       China can prop up its markets only so long as its currency reserve(s) are available to spend.   Right?   When these are gone they'll have economic hell to pay.   Right.

Look out for the future.   I've already made suggestions as of how to get ready for the approaching collapse.   It's coming and the Chinese look like the biggest player---followed (?)---by Greece to start the winter snowball downhill toward an economy sitting like a small village in its' path.  Squish and crunch.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4346 on: February 22, 2017, 11:49:25 PM »
Hey triffid, and all other readers...
       Big Brother is here in S.F.
How so?
       The Westfield Shopping Mall, just west of downtown Sf, has Mall Security plainclothes security people standing at door entrances to keep out smelly, filthy vagrants who try and get to the food court, downstairs, and pick up thrown away food from tables and trash cans.
       Talk about Big Brother!   I was homeless.   I was hungry.   I know how hard life can be on the streets.

These S.O.B.'s are insensitive!   As Trump would possibly say, "Sad!"

--Lee


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4347 on: March 06, 2017, 10:57:41 PM »
hey triffid,
       Just found this on the 'Web:

http://lifefreeenergy.com/o/overunity.html

       There's a picture down the page of a set of very bright light bulbs/LED's/or something similar to it shining its output light about 5" to a solar-style panel and then back to the light source in a closed loop.
       This is what Don Smith was trying to convey, AFAIK.   Just use more panels to ensure there's enough light to do the job.

What to you think after you look at the 'Web page...?

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4348 on: March 06, 2017, 11:04:45 PM »
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/dprk/2017/dprk-170127-sputnik01.htm?_m=3n.002a.1925.up0ao0822n.1rqz
       Right.   IMHO, both Communists and Fascists have a double standard:   A much better one in terms of positive conditions in their midst---and the opposite one for their 'perceived' enemies.   They only care about themselves and they can think all others can go hell.
       Unfortunately, their navy has improved ships and they're building more---(certainly!)---as I write.   That's where I come in for the West and Americans.   I'm doing work for a think tank and we'll see where that goes after that.   In due course, I'll be called in to work full time.
       It's coming.
       It may finally be here.   A certain individual indicated to me that conditions around the world and nationally were proper enough that I'd be called in for an initial interview.   The job was always going to convert to full time eventually, but there wasn't a timetable for that until now.
       Looks like to me a maximum of 3-4 weeks in the future.
This info was for anyone/everyone, but especially for triffid.

--Lee


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4349 on: March 08, 2017, 10:47:53 PM »
Hey everyone,
       The indications are still there to be seen:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article58355.html

       Yeah.   I know I've been saying the same thing for about 3 years, now, but individuals, corporations and governments have all tried like hell to keep the world economy going as long as possible.   Okay, it's worked until now.   There's only so much money they can spend until it's gone.   When it is gone, the economic house of cards will flatten like being rolled over by an Abrams tank.

       I simply didn't see the ability of the bankers and Gov'ts being able to forestall the inevitable worldwide money depression coming.   It can't be stopped; only postponed.

--Lee


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