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Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4290 on: October 20, 2016, 08:49:32 PM »
Sadly, the masses have been woefully deceived
by the "actors" and their controlled media.
America was lost to the "trance-formation" long
ago when The Republic was displaced by Corporation
U.S.  The People (those of good will who desire peace
and responsible government) are doomed.

The Money Changers (Bankers and Usurers) who learned
their tricks in Babylonian Exile have now created their
version of the New World Order Central Bank
(aka Babylon
the Great.)  The End of the Era is falling into place as
predicted in prophecy.  The coming Disaster is building
up steam.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4291 on: October 20, 2016, 11:02:56 PM »
AC, Hillary is a War Monger of the highest degree. There are only two places a war monger should be, one is Jail the other is on the front line with a gun ducking bullets and bombs. The world is sick and tired of the U.S. war mongering. Personally I do not see any way out if Hillary is elected, I think several conflict zones will escalate into U.S. - Russian conflict. In my own opinion I consider Hillary to be a driver for terrorism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTmPnEsKsfw

It would seem that the wheels are falling off the U.S. ability to lever the financial system. And that could be making the TPTB behind the U.S. policy desperate.

Lets hope cooler heads prevail. Nobody wants the kind of incidents in the videos below to go hot !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4sKAMgYsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6JGkPcgV9c

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4292 on: October 21, 2016, 01:56:52 AM »
Looking at the various facets of the looming
Disaster:

The Media is being primed to rig the election

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It is now apparent that the same media which has rigged every debate, every question, every Clinton appearance, every act of “Trump rally” violence, every female accuser of Donald Trump and every poll is preparing to rig the voting results on election night.

Yes, the leftist media is plotting with Clinton operatives to quite literally steal the election using the most audacious and bold act of mass media “sleight of hand” that has ever been pulled off in history.

It has come to my attention through several sources that media outlets are preparing graphics for a Clinton win but not a Trump win. The rehearsals taking place inside large media networks are all rehearsals for the following narrative which will be blasted out on election night:

1) Hillary Clinton has won the “democratic” vote and “democracy” must be respected.

2) Donald Trump must immediately concede defeat in order to stop violent protests (i.e. an armed citizens’ revolt from overthrowing the corrupt, criminal power base in Washington).

This narrative will be pounded hard on election night, even as the media outlets are conspiring to fabricate election results that in no way reflect the actual votes cast by legitimate American voters.

Doctors who discover effective cures for cancer
are eliminated


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Because cancer is such an immense profit generator, it seems logical that Big Pharma companies don’t want a cure to come out any time soon – especially a holistic, natural one. Cancer has become an indispensable business asset to drug makers, and if it were to be cured, they would lose billions of research dollars annually.  This should raise more public alarm than it has – because by commodifying this disease, Big Pharma has effectively become dependent on the suffering and deaths of millions of cancer victims every year. Their pain is pharmaceutical pay dirt.

Without a cure, cancer victims need to pay for chemo treatment and other medical commodities on extended basis – sometimes for decades. Beyond that stream of revenue, fundraisers and donations scrape together huge amounts of cash and other resources. It’s a veritable gold rush for medical providers and drug companies around the world. And who knows how far they’d go to protect that asset?

This isn’t the first time that holistic doctors have died of mysterious circumstances, in light of discovering some breakthrough. And it certainly won’t be the last time.


The Refugees flooding into Europe are an
invasion.
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Fully 72% of the “refugees” from the Syrian Civil War are males. Only 15% are children, and even fewer are women – 13%.

So why is this important? Because many are beginning to wonder if this is really a refugee problem, or if it’s an orchestrated invasion of Europe by young males of fighting age.

They don’t even pretend to deny that the reason they’re trying to get to Europe is for the welfare and benefits the socialist countries will bestow on them.

But is there a more insidious intent behind this wave of “refugees” that Europe is welcoming?

The numbers don’t lie.


The IMF does its job to assure the Disaster
will be enormous


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The banks’ product is debt. They try to tell customers that “debts are good for you,” but the customers can’t afford any more debt, so there’s no way the banks can continue their current business plan. In fact, there’s no way that banks can be paid everything that they’re owed. That’s what the IMF doesn’t follow through its analysis, by saying, “Look, the banks are broke because the financial system is broke; and the financial system is broke because the whole idea of trying to get rich by running into debt doesn’t work.”

It was a false model. So really, we’re at the end of long cycle that began in 1945, loading the economy with debt. We’re not going to be able to get out of it until you write down the debts. But that’s what the IMF believes is unthinkable. It can’t say that, because it’s supposed to represent the interest of the banks. So all the IMF can say is to wring their hands over the fact that the banks won’t make money even if there is a recovery.

But there really isn’t a recovery, and no signs of it on the horizon, because people have to pay the banks. It’s a vicious circle – or rather, a downward spiral. Basically, the IMF economists are just throwing up their hands and admitting that they don’t know what to do, given the limits of their tunnel vision.


Democrat Operatives and their Agitators
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Scott Foval, the national field director for Americans United for Change, explained how the scheme works.

“The [Clinton] campaign pays DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, The Foval Group goes and executes the shit,” Foval told an undercover journalist.

One example of the “shit” Foval executes was an instance in which a 69-year-old woman garnered headlines after claiming to be assaulted at a Trump rally.
“She was one of our activists,” Foval said.

Creamer’s job was to “manage” the work carried out by Foval.
“And the Democratic Party apparatus and the people from the campaign, the Clinton campaign and my role with the campaign, is to manage all that,” Creamer told an undercover journalist.

“Wherever Trump and Pence are gonna be we have events,” he said.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4293 on: October 22, 2016, 07:52:39 AM »
@Seamonkey
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This narrative will be pounded hard on election night, even as the media outlets are conspiring to fabricate election results that in no way reflect the actual votes cast by legitimate American voters.


It is quite natural to believe any game is rigged more so when were losing...the problem is we never think this when were winning. If we were winning should the losers always believe we rigged the game? well no we call that being a poor sport.


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Fully 72% of the “refugees” from the Syrian Civil War are males. Only 15% are children, and even fewer are women – 13%.
So why is this important? Because many are beginning to wonder if this is really a refugee problem, or if it’s an orchestrated invasion of Europe by young males of fighting age.
They don’t even pretend to deny that the reason they’re trying to get to Europe is for the welfare and benefits the socialist countries will bestow on them.
But is there a more insidious intent behind this wave of “refugees” that Europe is welcoming?


I would imagine these same statistics would apply to most people who immigrated to the U.S. in the last 240 years. Now they call themselves Americans and if they applied this same rule 240 years ago most of them would not be Americans and would have been denied entry. First it was those dirty chinese, then those italians, then those germans and those japanese. I would submit practically nothing has changed in the last 240 years and racism is alive and well.


The problem I see is discrimination tends to escalate... I don't like you because of where you live, or because of the color of your skin or your political views or your occupation or how you dress or the length of your hair. The intelligent choice is to opt out of this absurd game because at some point we will be judged by others following the same rule... we are not an exception to this rule.


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The banks’ product is debt. They try to tell customers that “debts are good for you,” but the customers can’t afford any more debt, so there’s no way the banks can continue their current business plan. In fact, there’s no way that banks can be paid everything that they’re owed. That’s what the IMF doesn’t follow through its analysis, by saying, “Look, the banks are broke because the financial system is broke; and the financial system is broke because the whole idea of trying to get rich by running into debt doesn’t work.”


I think once again most are playing the blame game. I know many people who have no debt because they lived well within their means and made wise choices. Myself not so much however I do know who to blame for my debt... I'm pretty sure it was me. Hell I practically demanded more credit or debt from the bank which in retrospect seems strange. Now I'm trying to get out of debt and it seems to be working pretty well so far.


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“The [Clinton] campaign pays DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, The Foval Group goes and executes the shit,” Foval told an undercover journalist.

One example of the “shit” Foval executes was an instance in which a 69-year-old woman garnered headlines after claiming to be assaulted at a Trump rally.“She was one of our activists,” Foval said.


If you rolled into a Clinton rally with a "Rotten Hillary belongs in jail"  T shirt yelling Hillary sucks and you got assaulted... would this surprise you?. So why would anyone be surprised if the opposite may be true?. I'm pretty sure both sides have there fair share of nut jobs and who the hell goes to a rally anyways?. It's like an extremist convention for the politically insane.


In any case I would tend to lean towards Hillary because she can talk in full sentences and not butcher the English language in the process. It's my litmus test for people I tend to trust more so than others.




AC








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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4294 on: October 22, 2016, 06:30:22 PM »
Your thoughts and commentary are always very
interesting AC.

An honest man who was "winning" in a rigged
"election" would reject such result and demand
an honest re-appraisal.  In today's political
environment an "honest re-appraisal" may not
even be possible because the corruption is so
pervasive.  These final two weeks before the election
should be very entertaining.  The "election" itself
promises to be a real "Majick" show.

Does anyone really believe that it matters which of
the two candidates is placed into the "office?"

The "Deep State" cares not who they are provided
with as a "Puppet" to do their bidding.  If the
Puppet should prove to be "independent" and too
much concerned with honestly looking after the
real needs of the Nation then he will be assassinated.
Their Power is that great.

The People no longer have any voice in matters.  In
truth it is doubtful if the People ever did...

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4295 on: October 22, 2016, 08:13:55 PM »
@seamonkey
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An honest man who was "winning" in a rigged[/size]"election" would reject such result and demandan honest re-appraisal.  In today's politicalenvironment an "honest re-appraisal" may noteven be possible because the corruption is sopervasive.  These final two weeks before the electionshould be very entertaining.  The "election" itselfpromises to be a real "Majick" show.


An honest person?, you may as well be asking for the moon, lol.
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Does anyone really believe that it matters which of[/size]the two candidates is placed into the "office?"


Good point, to be honest no I don't think it matters.


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The "Deep State" cares not who they are provided
with as a "Puppet" to do their bidding.  If the
Puppet should prove to be "independent" and too
much concerned with honestly looking after the
real needs of the Nation then he will be assassinated.
Their Power is that great.


I would agree, in the last Canadian election we had a choice to either subsidize big business with the extreme right wing knowing big business is oppressive. Or we could choose another more moderate party which limits the powers of big business. We chose the latter however I think your choice is a more difficult one. Both Clinton and Trump seem to be pushing the corporate agenda.


Personally I find it strange that anyone would support the extreme right wing giving corporations god like powers then complain the corporations are oppressing them. Like wise supporting the extreme left wing simply replaces the corporation with the state producing a similar result. I like where our current government is going and they seem to be moderate balancing corporate interests with public interests.


Even more strange is the fact most extreme right wingers like to label anyone not in agreement with them as commies. As if to say whenever the government acts in the public's best interests this is wrong while also demanding the government act in their own best interests. As if they were not an integral part of the general public but something else. Why not just say... give the corporations god like powers so they can oppress me so I can bitch about corporations having too much power over me. It makes no sense to me because they are literally asking for trouble.




AC

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4296 on: October 22, 2016, 09:17:10 PM »
The Turmoil which precedes the Great Disaster is
already well underway:

Germany is going down

In the long run, we are all dead

The American Empire is dying (I)

The American Empire is dying (II)

The American Empire is dying (III)

The American Empire is dying (IV)

Knowing that "the end is near" for the American
Empire, its "leaders" in desperation have become
ruthless warmongers.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4297 on: October 23, 2016, 03:26:32 AM »

@seamonkey
In the long run, we are all dead
That is an interesting article


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To a practicing curmudgeon, the presidential contest is amusing but unimportant. Hillary will win, whether she wins or not. She is just the wave front of deep and fast-flowing currents of decay that cannot be stopped. Trump may try, but he cannot succeed. We live in a dying culture and, soon, a diminished country. It cannot be saved.


I would submit the opposite and it is not decay but growth. I talked with a young man who owns the internet while the majority have trouble with email. I know a man who has a working free energy device while the majority must hire an electrician to change a light fixture. I designed and built my last three houses by myself minus the concrete work while the majority cannot even build a simple deck. Many people have literally no idea how to change the tire on their car.


It is not decay it is the fact some are moving ahead at the speed of light while the majority are at a stand still. The majority fall further and further behind the technology curve while still presuming to be equals when there is no equality to be found. They are dinosaurs clinging to the past and the one's moving forward refuse to wait for the future.


So yes things are going to get a little sketchy because many have evolved to a point the average person cannot even begin to understand. What you fail to understand is that there are two civilizations evolving, one has almost no limitations and the other cannot seem to balance their cheque book. So yes there is trouble brewing however it's not what you think because we do not want to "fit in" we want to get as far away from the stupidity we see as humanly possible.


It is going to be interesting I will give you that.


AC

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4298 on: October 23, 2016, 08:49:19 PM »
On a side note:


It has been proven that many civilizations existed in the past that had advanced technology and all of these civilizations were destroyed. The Greeks had central heating, indoor plumbing, functional sewers and water works and advanced astronomical instruments while Europe was still in the stone ages. A few instruments found had extremely intricate gear work mechanisms which few if any here could replicate even today. How is it a man a thousand years ago could understand and build devices none of you here could today?.


The common theme is that there have always been segments of society which learn and understand things much faster than everyone else and the uneducated oppress them. Not unlike the anti-science/Trump movement we are seeing today and in my opinion there is no reasoning with them. My guess is the intelligent people in past civilizations came to this same understanding and decided to opt out of a losing proposition. They went their separate way and continued to evolve and build better technology.


It may help when we consider the fact most people who have seen a UFO in close proximity tend to piss their pants, run in fear or shoot at them rather than ask... I wonder how that works, I wonder who is in control of that machine and can I get a ride?. It seems to me that once again our civilization is approaching a cross road where one segment moves forward into the future and another attempts to move backwards into the past.


The question is... would someone give advanced technology to everyone knowing many segments would use it to oppress or destroy them and most likely everyone?. Well no the argument is absurd which is why you will never see advanced technology and those intelligent enough to build it will never give it away. As such once again history is bound to repeat itself, the majority have already decided through their own actions that history will repeat itself.


Strange times


AC







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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4299 on: October 24, 2016, 02:36:05 AM »
Aye, it is indeed true that certain of the Ancient
Civilizations had very advanced technologies.
Perhaps even more advanced than ours today.

The Saker explains why no matter which way the
"election" goes in two weeks, the People of the World
are screwed.


Why Hillary Clinton is the indispensable "darling" of
the NeoCons and the Media.


The shameful looting of Haiti by the Clintons.

For many in the World the Disaster has been in
progress for quite some time.  It will soon get
much, much worse for everyone.

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4300 on: October 27, 2016, 04:14:20 PM »
http://thesovereigninvestor.com/exclusives/billionaires-bet-big-market-crash-reason-shocking/?z=560295  See what the smart money is saying.triffid


Investment titans are making massive billion-dollar bets that the stock market is approaching an imminent crash, but perhaps most shockingly of all … is why.

Multibillionaire Carl Icahn, for example, recently increased his short positions by 600% … betting as much as $4,321,000,000 that the stock market will plummet sharply and suddenly!

George Soros — who is considered to be the most successful hedge fund operator in history for timing market crashes — is getting in on the action, too. He just made a $2.2 billion bet that the market would collapse.

Even famed investor Jim Rogers went on record saying: “A $68 trillion ‘Biblical’ collapse is poised to wipe out millions of Americans.”

Mysteriously, just about every major financial whale is taking specific steps against the market … all at the same time.

In fact, we haven’t seen this many concentrated bets on an immediate crash since 2008 when the stock market collapsed by 58%.


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« Reply #4301 on: October 28, 2016, 05:41:32 PM »
@triffid
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[size=0px]http://thesovereigninvestor.com/exclusives/billionaires-bet-big-market-crash-reason-shocking/?z=560295[/font][/size][size=0px]  See what the smart money is saying[/size]


Smart in this case is relative because even a fool should be able to understand that no economy can continue to grow indefinitely. They grow and then collapse under there own weight and the cycle repeats itself. Which raises the obvious question... why do the majority not understand this?. It doesn't help that the vast majority do not even understand grade 8 science or economics let alone what is happening today.


What is equally strange is that most at the bottom of the food chain proclaim to stronly believe in the "survival of the fittest" mentality. As if to say I believe strong and intelligent people have the right to oppress me because I am neither. The scale of ignorance simply boggles the mind.

AC


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4302 on: October 28, 2016, 09:08:35 PM »
What bothers me the most are people clinging to the word democracy.  The devil is in the details of that word.

Here in the U.S. I was taught the rights of the individual.  Which means I can be as lazy, smart, trendy, athletic, entrepreneurial, religious, spiritual, etc. as I want, as long as I do no harm to anyone else.  That is at the heart of this republic or once great nation.  These were the rules and with those rules, people can become the best at whatever they choose to pursue.  There are a few still around that understand these principals and why when they are employed, make a nation worth fighting for.  But now...

Everyone wants democracy.  Also known as mob rule.  They take great comfort in numbers, able to push others around and force their will upon the minority.  They change the rules routinely to improve their odds and further their goals.  It's a big club and I'm not in it as George Carlin would say.  Everyone wants to be a winner and be a part of something bigger than themselves.  It's a world I barely comprehend and have little desire to be a part of.

I sometimes wonder what the founders such as Thomas Jefferson would say if he were alive today.  I think it would go something like this:

"We gave you a country where every individual had the right and obligation to become the very best they can at whatever they choose to seek out.  We gave you this and instead of cherishing and protecting it, the people of this country gave their unalienable rights away and decided the good of the majority outweigh the good of the few or the one.  It is such a sad sight to see, a pity on those that will witness their own destruction.  Many nations have fallen under the same trap, weary to recognize the error of their ways.  Let it be known we truly did all we knew at the time to create a beacon of light on this so desolate mountain."

So yes, I do believe the generations to come will never comprehend let alone reenact that which would have brought them virtue.  I'm a dying breed as are the few that recognize my words.  The majority will make their own nest and lie in the ruins that follow.  They will never know what they have lost, but at some point they will recognize everything is gone.

M@

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« Reply #4303 on: October 29, 2016, 07:56:19 AM »
Up to 90% and more price reduction of shares and financial obligations are not a crash :
this means only the reengineering from the overboarded "toxic paper"-trading market mechanism,
reducing all not capital saved "options}bets"and reenter a physical worth compensating quantity and quality cash market ,


  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_(finance)          The three lever stages,showing the risk/chance quotient:
                                                                                                    /0,3/0,3/0,3~ market average: 36 risk cases(losts) for 1 success case(win)


                                                                    Roulette wheel : 36(18 par/18 impar) + 0 
                                                                    "Monte Carlo" Analytik tool
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPierre-Simon_Laplace&edit-text=
 
invented by one of the french Academy of Science "heads/hats/phets" and member of the royal crown : the Duque/Herzog de Laplace
for the two "Absolutism"-Regents Kardinal Richelieu and Kardinal Montesqieu(native Italian)

nobody has had the chance to withdrawn the Academy of Science members decision (perpetuum mobile)because this Academy has been the "Ward/Gard "from and for the french population and religion VFolk,holding and defending the "royal Heal",only to exist in ONE his hands
                                    "L'etats,c'est moi" Louis XIV,Versailles/Fontainebleu Resident, the "Sonnenkeen(Queen/Koeni(g)"
                     


                               The Ampére law is also called Biot-Savart law and finally also called Laplace law
                               these four Academy of Science members defined the perpetuum mobile,based by a Paradoxon
                                            PARADOXON also defined as physical UMKEHRWERT


The stock exchange software is based by pure logic (Laplace Maths : Operator) and this will let enter a step down chain reaction .
And it is not more a static program : it is a learning "energetic creature",an "NLP animal" with his own animus .


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #4304 on: October 30, 2016, 09:00:49 PM »
@triffid

Smart in this case is relative because even a fool should be able to understand that no economy can continue to grow indefinitely. They grow and then collapse under there own weight and the cycle repeats itself. Which raises the obvious question... why do the majority not understand this?. It doesn't help that the vast majority do not even understand grade 8 science or economics let alone what is happening today.
What is equally strange is that most at the bottom of the food chain proclaim to stronly believe in the "survival of the fittest" mentality. As if to say I believe strong and intelligent people have the right to oppress me because I am neither. The scale of ignorance simply boggles the mind.

AC
       Okay AC, I generally agree with you.   Does it matter if this might happen?  Thusly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7RdNIMVOk

       Psychcs may predict the same thing, but these guys have a certain amount of (admittedly) self-generated opinion(s).
       I do agree with them in that the Syrian-rebel conflict is actually a proxy war between the Assad regime and Russian backers and the rebels, backed by the USA.

--Lee

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