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gravityblock · « **Reply #3990 on:** August 26, 2015, 05:15:34 PM »

Quote from: MarkE on August 11, 2015, 04:56:53 AM

Stirring up trouble is very easy. Solving real problems is difficult. Let's hope that cooler heads prevail.

A Ferguson judge voided 10,000 arrest warrants in a city with a population of little more than 20,000. If you leave out the elderly and the very young, then this means nearly 100% of the population that falls between the elderly and the very young in Ferguson has been given false and bogus citations by law enforcement. The 10,000 arrest warrants voided didn't include state charges. Now, who are the cooler heads in which you speak of? Solving real problems are easy, once the real problems are recognized and dealt with. However, I don't see law enforcement and the authorities solving the problems in which they themselves promoted and created. MarkE, you're just one big epic fail after another! You once again have it completely backwards and upside down.

Defendants will get new court dates, according to the order, and may be put on installment plans to pay off their fines or ordered to perform community service instead. <----- The authorities are stealing from the entire community and having those who can't pay to work as a slave for the corrupted system.

Gravock

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #3991 on:** August 26, 2015, 07:55:38 PM »

Quote from: gravityblock on August 26, 2015, 05:15:34 PM

...snip 1st paragraph

..."Defendants will get new court dates, according to the order, and may be put on installment plans to pay off their fines or ordered to perform community service instead. <----- The authorities are stealing from the entire community and having those who can't pay to work as a slave for the corrupted system."

Gravock

Guys, take a look at this:

http://www.infowars.com/it-is-time-to-kick-prepping-into-overdrive-because-this-stock-market-crash-is-just-the-beginning/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/stock-up-on-canned-food-for-stock-market-crash-warns-former-gordon-brown-advisor-10469509.html

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin870.htm

I took a further look at additional headlined articles and found more of the same: The Chinese pushed themselves off 'the cliff' and they'll drag others near them financially as well.
I, for one, am taking the analysts' advice, as of next Tuesday when I get paid and pay my bills. Since I'm on a small, fixed income, that's all that I can do for now, in that regard.
On the other hand, I collect imitation, replica versions of Samurai swords. Some of these come out of the shipping box that are very sharp to nearly razor sharp. Anyone in San Francisco who's over 18 yrs. old can own one to simply go to a specialized shop that carries them or else order one online. Legally they're about the same a long, narrow machete. However, in Calif., they may be illegal to drop-ship a sword through the mail. Check with your local law enforcement officials to be sure.

Out of time on this computer. Will continue looking at the news stations for the time being.

--Lee

SoManyWires · « **Reply #3992 on:** August 26, 2015, 08:39:32 PM »

Quote from: gravityblock on August 26, 2015, 05:15:34 PM

A Ferguson judge voided 10,000 arrest warrants in a city with a population of little more than 20,000. If you leave out the elderly and the very young, then this means nearly 100% of the population that falls between the elderly and the very young in Ferguson has been given false and bogus citations by law enforcement. The 10,000 arrest warrants voided didn't include state charges. Now, who are the cooler heads in which you speak of? Solving real problems are easy, once the real problems are recognized and dealt with. However, I don't see law enforcement and the authorities solving the problems in which they themselves promoted and created. MarkE, you're just one big epic fail after another! You once again have it completely backwards and upside down.

Defendants will get new court dates, according to the order, and may be put on installment plans to pay off their fines or ordered to perform community service instead. <----- The authorities are stealing from the entire community and having those who can't pay to work as a slave for the corrupted system.

Gravock

arrest warrants, 10k people, how many of those lived in ferguson?
the good thing is the judge threw out the warrants. some laws do need to be removed, and others need to be rewritten to make better sense with society and stop being cash grabs. the police are supposed to be there for serving the public first, themselves 2nd.
are the state charges directly related to the events in ferguson?

why are you painting mark into a corner?
do you not find any of his comments practical, even if you do not agree with them or maybe understand them?
even if someone is wrong about something sometimes and everyone here sometimes is, the questions asked
if something is not understood, are usually important.

the best answers are the most easy to understand, less cryptic responses whenever possible.
with a flood of puzzling deception common in these waters that is not always intentional, filters help make the koolaid less toxic.
anyone expecting others to easily accept a concept needs to allow for a level playing field,
not everyone is able to just believe, or willing to just believe, without being shown proof and how that
proof validated itself for the presenter.

gravityblock · « **Reply #3993 on:** August 26, 2015, 09:04:37 PM »

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on August 26, 2015, 07:55:38 PM

Guys, take a look at this:

http://www.infowars.com/it-is-time-to-kick-prepping-into-overdrive-because-this-stock-market-crash-is-just-the-beginning/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/stock-up-on-canned-food-for-stock-market-crash-warns-former-gordon-brown-advisor-10469509.html

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin870.htm

I took a further look at additional headlined articles and found more of the same: The Chinese pushed themselves off 'the cliff' and they'll drag others near them financially as well.
I, for one, am taking the analysts' advice, as of next Tuesday when I get paid and pay my bills. Since I'm on a small, fixed income, that's all that I can do for now, in that regard.
On the other hand, I collect imitation, replica versions of Samurai swords. Some of these come out of the shipping box that are very sharp to nearly razor sharp. Anyone in San Francisco who's over 18 yrs. old can own one to simply go to a specialized shop that carries them or else order one online. Legally they're about the same a long, narrow machete. However, in Calif., they may be illegal to drop-ship a sword through the mail. Check with your local law enforcement officials to be sure.

Out of time on this computer. Will continue looking at the news stations for the time being.

--Lee

Yes, the entire world is headed towards a complete meltdown.

Gravock

gravityblock · « **Reply #3994 on:** August 26, 2015, 09:26:10 PM »

Quote from: SoManyWires on August 26, 2015, 08:39:32 PM

arrest warrants, 10k people, how many of those lived in ferguson?

How many people who lived or worked in Ferguson received more than 1 citation or had more than 1 arrest warrant? It wouldn't surprise me if the total number of arrest warrants exceeded Ferguson's entire population of 20,000.

Quote from: SoManyWires on August 26, 2015, 08:39:32 PM

the good thing is the judge threw out the warrants. some laws do need to be removed, and others need to be rewritten to make better sense with society and stop being cash grabs. the police are supposed to be there for serving the public first, themselves 2nd. are the state charges directly related to the events in ferguson?

The judge only threw out the warrants related to the civil infractions, but not the civil infractions. The warrants were in regards to failure to appear, failure to pay, etc. I have no idea how many people in Ferguson has state charges against them. The state charges were in reference to both before and after the events in Ferguson. Let's hope the state hasn't followed the city's example.

Quote from: SoManyWires on August 26, 2015, 08:39:32 PM

why are you painting mark into a corner? do you not find any of his comments practical, even if you do not agree with them or maybe understand them? even if someone is wrong about something sometimes and everyone here sometimes is, the questions asked if something is not understood, are usually important.

I didn't paint MarkE (Mark Euthanasius) into a corner. He has painted himself into a corner. No, I do not find any of his comments practical due to his misleading and deceptive nature.

Quote from: SoManyWires on August 26, 2015, 08:39:32 PM

the best answers are the most easy to understand, less cryptic responses whenever possible.
with a flood of puzzling deception common in these waters that is not always intentional, filters help make the koolaid less toxic.
anyone expecting others to easily accept a concept needs to allow for a level playing field,
not everyone is able to just believe, or willing to just believe, without being shown proof and how that
proof validated itself for the presenter.

MarkE's deception is intentional, and the record shows this time and time again. Denying what is right before your own eyes, regardless of the amount of evidence presented, is just being willfully ignorant. If you want to align yourself with the willfully ignorant, then fine by me. Each to their own.

Gravock

gravityblock · « **Reply #3995 on:** August 26, 2015, 09:44:45 PM »

Quote from: gravityblock on August 26, 2015, 09:04:37 PM

Yes, the entire world is headed towards a complete meltdown.

Gravock

Below are approximately 1250 pdf's, complete books, pamflets, manuals, and tips regarding survival and off-the-grid living.

Urbansurvivalsite.com.zip

Paleoprepping_com.zip

Armageddononline_org.zip

Gravock

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #3996 on:** August 27, 2015, 11:47:21 PM »

Quote from: gravityblock on August 26, 2015, 09:44:45 PM

Below are approximately 1250 pdf's, complete books, pamflets, manuals, and tips regarding survival and off-the-grid living.

Urbansurvivalsite.com.zip

Paleoprepping_com.zip

Armageddononline_org.zip

Gravock

gravityblock may have a point with the sites listed above.
This article was just found by me:
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/25/investing/stocks-markets-china-turnaround-tuesday/index.html

If it isn't China, it's also the Dow-Jones as well. 2008 may be revisited in spades because there's more money being lost now, compared to then. Whatever you can think of to help possible losses in income. housing, and well-being for yourself should be tried if you think it's necessary.

I'll be looking more at the news articles, but I actually have an exit plan in place that's peculiar to me, but it should work if I need it. Things will probably get worse before they get better. A cliche', if there was one, but it'll have be what I deal with now.

--Lee

p.s.
The web address above does actually load and run if I invoke it with a mouse click.

triffid · « **Reply #3997 on:** August 28, 2015, 07:09:56 PM »

The stock markets are rebounding now.China's economy is slowing down to a mere 7% and just like the USA in 2000 and 2001. The chinese middle class has lost half their savings in their recent stock market crash. Those who panic and sold, locked in their losses.triffid

Now Ukraine is looking more and more like Greece with the debt issues they are having.

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #3998 on:** August 29, 2015, 12:49:15 AM »

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on August 27, 2015, 11:47:21 PM

I'll be looking more at the news articles, but I actually have an exit plan in place that's peculiar to me, but it should work if I need it. Things will probably get worse before they get better. A cliche', if there was one, but it'll have be what I deal with now.

--Lee

No end in sight...

http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/600843/Stock-market-crisis-FTSE-100-sinks-AGAIN-to-lose-25billion-as-China-panic-continues

--Lee

EOW · « **Reply #3999 on:** August 30, 2015, 11:45:26 AM »

Quote

I see an economic diasater coming...

Me too and I see a civil war in France and UK maybe all around in Europe. I think Al Qaida will destroy HV transformers in substations. It's easy to do. Need only 100 terrorists for destroy Paris or London with suburbs. Imagine the stock echange and the tourrism in France or in UK. Need 6 months for build one HV transformer. There is only one factury in France (JST Lyon). Difficult to transport, need a special truck that runs very slowly. Imagine the Europe without electricity for one or 2 years. And the best is the nuclear plants with their pools that contain a great quantity of radioactive materials. Al Qaida can thanks scientists and politicians !

English:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/R42795.pdf

French link:

http://echelledejacob.blogspot.com/2014/09/talon-dachille.html

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #4000 on:** September 01, 2015, 08:46:05 PM »

Quote from: EOW on August 30, 2015, 11:45:26 AM

Me too and I see a civil war in France and UK maybe all around in Europe.

I agree. In a related 'Web article...
http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/sep/01/stock-markets-fall-weak-chinese-factory-data-business-live

So, what you said in the rest of your post (snipped by me) is possible. When people are starving they'll resort to whatever it takes to survive. Depressions in America and Europe have shown that.
My newest article above highlights the continuing financial problems worldwide. This isn't over with a happy outcome, however one might look at the overall situation. The Chinese have some very hard times ahead for them, along with the rest of the world, if they can't get their heavy-handed financial measures to finally do some good and mitigate the crisis they may have started awhile ago.

No matter what is done, if anyone can get away from present difficulties, they may only be postponing the final collapse of their economy---as I may have implied all along.

I said it before and repeat it now: We're headed for a 1930's-style depression, beginning shortly, that will affect every last person in the money market style of financial culture, worldwide.
That's the best of it. The worst might include bloodshed in city streets, worldwide, that also can involve whosoever lives in cities.

--Lee

p.s.
Just found by me on the 'Web:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/stocks-plunge-again-on-renewed-worries-about-china-fed/ar-AAdONjd?ocid=LENDHP
This is getting out of anyone's hand to try and stop the decline! If this goes on for a couple more weeks, the European/American economies will (figuratively go down the toilet...

gravityblock · « **Reply #4001 on:** September 03, 2015, 04:55:26 AM »

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on September 01, 2015, 08:46:05 PM

No matter what is done, if anyone can get away from present difficulties, they may only be postponing the final collapse of their economy---as I may have implied all along.

Yes, both China and the U.S. has been propping up their markets. It's just a matter of time before they can no longer be successful in doing this. They're just allowing the bubble to get larger for a much bigger bang and collapse.

Gravock

SoManyWires · « **Reply #4002 on:** September 03, 2015, 08:24:41 AM »

Quote from: gravityblock on September 03, 2015, 04:55:26 AM

Yes, both China and the U.S. has been propping up their markets. It's just a matter of time before they can no longer be successful in doing this. They're just allowing the bubble to get larger for a much bigger bang and collapse.

Gravock

they can and will increase inflation, while asking tax payers to pay at greater amounts.

they can try to raise the retirement age, and they probably will.
they can try to create medical research breakthroughs that enhance a persons longevity, and they probably will.

besides, its not just for the active senior who wants to remain active, its mostly to help cover expenses from the
misdirected investment of some pension fund managers, and the reliance of those funds remaining intact, hopefully.

alot can contribute to creating debt.
and interest rates will do nothing to slow it down, other than to try and convince borrowers to avoid needing to.
when a debt gets to the point it creates its own orbit as it sort of has, thats when its time to stop wasting more of it.

the debt could be wiped clean using a percentage of the wealthiest of persons collective money.
it may not seem that is there intent to pay it off to cover the costs of what lead up to creating the debt,
though something was mentioned about a inheritance tax at a EU summit meeting.
if that were to be used upon only the most wealthy and left the middle and lower classes exempt,
the quality of life for everyone would go up.
though the highest of upper class does seem to appreciate its distinction more than its lesser present conscience.

ideally the poor would be given a better quality of life change the soonest, at least until things even out.
their desperation leads to alot of unneeded suffering directed towards the higher classes,
and even their closest neighbors.

that might even help them not to want to overpopulate (having 10 kids in hopes 2.5 will survive though trying to raise 10 kids could collapse their own basic needs supply inventory) in their own global regions as they try to ensure some lineage, that has been granted to them previously by religious and patriotic rights of passage.

what happens when technology gets to the point that human manual and some management labor is no longer required?
are we supposed to maintain a structure based on planned obsolsence?
does adaptability become written into design like the usb port?
does competition continue to aim to remain proprietary?
what a mountain of junk, some of it is recyclable.

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #4003 on:** September 09, 2015, 02:58:00 AM »

Quote from: SoManyWires on September 03, 2015, 08:24:41 AM

they can and will increase inflation, while asking tax payers to pay at greater amounts.

they can try to raise the retirement age, and they probably will.
they can try to create medical research breakthroughs that enhance a persons longevity, and they probably will.

besides, its not just for the active senior who wants to remain active, its mostly to help cover expenses from the
misdirected investment of some pension fund managers, and the reliance of those funds remaining intact, hopefully.

alot can contribute to creating debt.
and interest rates will do nothing to slow it down, other than to try and convince borrowers to avoid needing to.
when a debt gets to the point it creates its own orbit as it sort of has, thats when its time to stop wasting more of it.

the debt could be wiped clean using a percentage of the wealthiest of persons collective money.
it may not seem that is there intent to pay it off to cover the costs of what lead up to creating the debt,
though something was mentioned about a inheritance tax at a EU summit meeting.
if that were to be used upon only the most wealthy and left the middle and lower classes exempt,
the quality of life for everyone would go up.
though the highest of upper class does seem to appreciate its distinction more than its lesser present conscience.

ideally the poor would be given a better quality of life change the soonest, at least until things even out.
their desperation leads to alot of unneeded suffering directed towards the higher classes,
and even their closest neighbors.

that might even help them not to want to overpopulate (having 10 kids in hopes 2.5 will survive though trying to raise 10 kids could collapse their own basic needs supply inventory) in their own global regions as they try to ensure some lineage, that has been granted to them previously by religious and patriotic rights of passage.

what happens when technology gets to the point that human manual and some management labor is no longer required?
are we supposed to maintain a structure based on planned obsolsence?
does adaptability become written into design like the usb port?
does competition continue to aim to remain proprietary?
what a mountain of junk, some of it is recyclable.

I'm just going to post this as potential reference material as well as look at the posted material above, later...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-08/china-just-killed-the-world-s-biggest-stock-index-futures-market

Oh. BTW, something vague tells me that the Chinese are 'painting themselves into a corner' with their actions aas of late.

--Lee

--Lee

triffid · « **Reply #4004 on:** September 11, 2015, 07:00:59 PM »

A new human species has been added to our family tree.Imagine what their world was like two to three million years ago. http://www.theage.com.au/world/fossils-found-in-african-cave-are-new-species-of-human-kin-say-scientists-20150910-gjjzvj.html

The age of the fossils will be difficult to determine, Berger says, because they were not fused into rock, which can be dated, and they wanted to wait to do radiocarbon dating until they knew more about what they had. What he did say, with confidence, was that H. naledi "comes near or at the root of the genus Homo", in excess of 2.5 million years ago.

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