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Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2009, 04:56:15 PM »
the_big_m_in_ok said:
NOTE:

New development:

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=131832675980

ANOTHER NOTE:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090914065024AATojye
(this article may be replaced in the future by fresher news)

The whole financial system is still "on the edge", as it were...

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2009, 06:57:15 PM »
ANOTHER NOTE:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090914065024AATojye
(this article may be replaced in the future by fresher news)

The whole financial system is still "on the edge", as it were...

--Lee

installing more Temp employement agencies would help lesson the effects until permanent jobs come along, sometimes temp jobs lead to permanent jobs if the employee likes their skills and memory absorbtion. Temp agencies are faster to start up rather than large industries so it's like having a snack before the main course comes along.

now if we can just get those who don't want to work to get to work we'll can eliminate a lot of that red tape. I know at least 50 people that don't want to work, they just want to milk the system for what it's worth.

how many people do you know that don't want to work? I bet you it runs into at least 1.5 to 2 million people nation wide.

Jerry ;)


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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2009, 11:31:31 PM »
onthecuttingedge2005said:
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I know at least 50 people that don't want to work, they just want to milk the system for what it's worth.
Well, okay, you have a valid point.  People can get so discouraged,  they quit looking.  I do want to work,  but I lack the recent experience and schooling to qualify.  And, I'm almost 60.

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...how many people do you know that don't want to work? I bet you it runs into at least 1.5 to 2 million people nation wide.
Exactly.  The "Entitlement Generation" hasn't had to live through a serious recession like this one to know what real privation is.  Many people are about to  learn the hard way.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2009, 07:43:04 AM »
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2009, 04:41:06 AM »
The "Entitlement Generation" hasn't had to live through a serious recession like this one to know what real privation is.  Many people are about to  learn the hard way.

--Lee

It's these types of situations which usher in the idea of a commune.  Not to be distasteful or anything, but the idea of a commune is one that's been utilized for many thousands of years, it's only seen as having been sullied by the idea of communism, which is itself entirely different and larger, more ominous, etc.

Think of a prison as a sort of commune, or a church, or even a workplace.  What really defines it? - people sleeping in close quarters, or that which takes place while in one?  Hmm?

Is your workplace a communist one?

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
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Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2009, 05:26:17 AM »
jadaro2600 said:
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It's these types of situations which usher in the idea of a commune.  Not to be distasteful or anything, but the idea of a commune is one that's been utilized for many thousands of years, it's only seen as having been sullied by the idea of communism, which is itself entirely different and larger, more ominous, etc.
Yes, I agree.  Communism is insidious.  I was told by a former acquaintance years ago: "The only communism that works in the world is an Israeli kibbutz."  She had dual Israeli/American citizenship, so she knew.
(I could tell you why, but it has to do with their religion.)
What doesn't work is human nature to be dishonest and greedy.  Right now, nothing concrete, in a financial sense, is being done to mitigate the market meltdown on Wall St. because of human nature.

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Think of a prison as a sort of commune, or a church, or even a workplace.  What really defines it? - people sleeping in close quarters, or that which takes place while in one?  Hmm?
Is your workplace a communist one?
Yeah, it is.  I live in a halfway house for homeless Vets in San Francisco.  This is actually, literally a communist setup.  However, the problems that come with being a combat Vet are something that adds stress to the overall situation.  It's not perfect, by any means.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2009, 05:27:21 AM »
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Some interesting insights from an economist's point of view:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/09/13/why_capitalism_fails/

Maybe a portent of what big_m is predicting:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1212013/Revealed-The-ghost-fleet-recession-anchored-just-east-Singapore.html

My personal view: Become as self-sufficient as possible, position ourselves to minimize dependency.

There will be a brief respite before we encounter yet another 'collapse', use that time wisely.
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2009, 06:04:40 AM »
ATT said:
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Some interesting insights from an economist's point of view:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/09/13/why_capitalism_fails/
Good, ATT.  I agree with Minsky.

An American History teacher in high school told my class that, "For the federal government to shoot the right amount of money at the right time into the economy would bring the country out of depression or recession.  The big 'if' is when, where and how much money to spend."

Minsky said about the same thing.  He's got a better handle on it than anyone now or then.

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Maybe a portent of what big_m is predicting:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1212013/Revealed-The-ghost-fleet-recession-anchored-just-east-Singapore.html
This computer has a block on that site.  I'll get to another computer later.

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My personal view: Become as self-sufficient as possible, position ourselves to minimize dependency.
There will be a brief respite before we encounter yet another 'collapse', use that time wisely.
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Excellent!  Do the best you can.  We may all need as much luck as possible.

Re-edit:
Another take on the subject of business-as-usual:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32875188/ns/business-world_business/
NOTE:
This article may or may not be replaced in the future with fresher news.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2009, 06:22:59 AM »
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This computer has a block on that site.  I'll get to another computer later.
Lee, Hunt down a proxy or an anonymizer (same thing) and you'll get through the ip-block.

I found this somewhat 'telling':
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/jolts_20090909/

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Do the best you can.  We may all need as much luck as possible.
So true. Regardless of '...plans of mice and men...', ultimately we all need the 'luck' to go with any positioning we attempt.

I wish you well,

Tony







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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2009, 06:30:58 AM »
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.Lee, Hunt down a proxy or an anonymizer (same thing) and you'll get through the ip-block.
Sometimes I can GOOGLize another site and get the same information.
Also, I can go borrow a Linux-based CD-R disk that doesn't have a 'Net Nannie' on it and look at anything.

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I found this somewhat 'telling':
http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/jolts_20090909/
Time's about up on this borrowed computer.  I'll look tomorrow.


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So true. Regardless of '...plans of mice and men...', ultimately we all need the 'luck' to go with any positioning we attempt.
I wish you well,
Tony
Right.  Thanks.  You, also.

--Lee

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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2009, 06:47:34 PM »
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http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/29990/Dr__Steven_Greer_The_Promise_of_New_Energy/

The operant word here is ...Promise....

While I appreciate the vigor with which motivational evangelists make their case,  holding out possibilities that are 'just around the corner', so to speak, have limited value in the 'hear and now'.

Better to plan for the most likely occurrence.

If you were to calculate the odds of FE/UFO disclosure verses further economic breakdown, which do you think would be more likely?
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2009, 08:07:37 PM »
@ATT
I saw the first 6 mins. of the video quoted in Reply #41 and then I started to get the overall drift of his message: Conspiracy and disinformation.

Okay, he's right.  But if he takes the same line as those who went before him(no full disclosure), he's part of the problem.

You're right, ATT.  All he's doing is making a promise, from what little I've heard so far.

--Lee
 
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2009, 08:59:07 AM »
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I do beg your indulgence for this rather 'stretched-out' post but it's such a good opportunity to respond further to the posted video link.

Dr Steven Greer:
Wife is a Yale grad.
Well connected with Washington insiders
Lives close to DC and Langley, VA

Born: June 28 1955.
Probably began practice around 1985

Espouses:
Extraterrestrial contact
Extraterrestrial suppression
Advanced technology suppression
Government conspiracy
NWO conspiracy

Organizations formed:
1990 Center for the study of extraterrestrial intelligence
1993 Disclosure project
2007 Advanced energy research organization
New: Orion project

Books:
1999: Extraterrestrial Contact
2001: Disclosure
2006: Hidden Truth

Does lecture circuits (seminars)

Appears on tv/radio:
Larry King Live
CBS
BBC
NTV (Japan)
Sightings
Encounters
Coast to Coast
Armstrong Williams 
internet radio

Claims to be a contactee

Teaches:
Meditation
Remote viewing
Cosmic consiencness
Precognition
Supernatural abilities

Solicits donations without any technology:
Solicits new AE/OU/FE inventions:
http://www.theorionproject.org/en/faq.html

From looking at the above, I'm wondering when he had time to practice medicine...

If I was a -real- conspiracy aficionado, I'd suspect he was a 'plant' who was injected into the fringe-mainstream to discover individuals who would be detrimental to government coverups and FE inventors on the verge of breakthroughs...in order to suppress them before they did any damage to secret government programs (or economic agendas), all under the guise of 'disclosure'.

* His headquarters -is- comfortably close to WA-DC and Langley VA (CIA HDQTRS).
* His wife -is- a Yale grad (skull and bones).
* By his own admission he -is- well connected with the power-elite.
* The corporate officers of his various organizations have been connected with government and industry (CIA operatives?)
http://www.theorionproject.org/en/about.html.
* He only had a chance to practice medicine for about five years before becoming embroiled in ufo coverup conspiracy (government startup?).
* He has had network-quality coverage (government paid-for?).
* He solicits donations without having any technology (cover for black-ops funding?).
* He solicits inventions without any development track-record (direct pipe to government for suppression?).

No, a -real- conspiracy theorist would see-through the slick facade of Tony Robinesque motivational speech, too-slick east-coast organization, Madison Avenue caliber marketing and too-easy access to senators, representatives, industry moguls and scientists...too slick, too quick, smells like a trap.

On the other hand...he could just be in it for the money. You can imagine what a cash-cow any kind of conspiracy following can generate, just look at all the players who have cashed-in and continue to cash-in, times are good for conspiracy marketers...worldwide.

I won't go into my act on alternative-marketing, but you should know that the accepted 'formula' is:

* Promote Fear
* Suspend Disbelief
* Sell Hope

I'll leave it to you to recognize those to whom this applies ('...By their fruits shall ye know them...' sort of thing).

A third possibility is that he could be sincere, in which case none of the above would apply.

Of course, the eventual point of all this is 'it doesn't matter' because if the economy fails to the point of systemic breakdown, what's going to be important to you and yours are things like:

Food
Water
Shelter
Fuel
Medicine
Protection
and most importantly...
Knowledge.

UFOs and black-box energy cubes won't save us if it 'all falls down'.

So I'm going to pay attention to things that matter, the rest is for (as they say) 'entertainment value only'.
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Re: I see an economic diasater coming...
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2009, 01:45:41 PM »

If I was a -real- conspiracy aficionado, I'd suspect he was a 'plant' who was injected into the fringe-mainstream to discover individuals who would be detrimental to government coverups and FE inventors on the verge of breakthroughs...in order to suppress them before they did any damage to secret government programs (or economic agendas), all under the guise of 'disclosure'.


Great post.

I agree with you. Greer is one of "them" and anyone associated with him is either is working with him or, brought in so, can be kept under close observation.

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