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Offline magnetman12003

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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2009, 05:08:47 AM »
If anyone feels the ball magnet version is too hard to do, try doing this version... He explains quite clearly how to make it work.

Hi,

Did you ever contact the inventor and ask him exactly how he consructed the basic coil(s) he  demonstrate with on his video?.  I asked him but never recieved a reply.  I for one would like to try to construct several of his coils and see what happens.  Tom


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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #46 on: August 30, 2009, 01:20:33 PM »
Hi all,

Regarding the original movie(s), the coil is powered. So is the flashing LED. I have very little doubts about it, as follows:

There is no way the contraption produces over 2V (probably 2.4-3V is more realistically judging by the appearance of that particular LED) at enough current (let’s say 0.1-1 mA at least) so the LED lights and that’s after simply considering the huge gap between the spherical magnet and the coil and/or the low rpm and/or the small size of the main magnet that induces B-field in the coil and/or the relatively small size of the coil. Each of the 4 factors that I separated by “and/or” has its importance but the size of that gap is really dramatic and it speaks by itself.

In judging the above, one may either play with math (Faraday’s Law) or go for an easy and much entertaining experimental check. If someone goes for the last, please post the findings for everyone’s entertainment.

So, most probably, a small 3V battery (or maybe 2 batteries at most, series connected) is/are hidden inside the coil and the circuit is completed by the reed switch in series with the LED and the coil. Moreover, I also state that there is no need of anything else for the setup to run as advertised. Providing that the battery(/ies) is/are new, it/they can provide enough current for spinning the two magnets for maybe tenths of minutes or so. The LED is not really necessary but without it it’s quite difficult to properly adjust the distances between the switch-coil-magnet, so the LED acts as a visual indicator of proper coil-firing, for the ease of the “operator”.

Best regards,
Tinu
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 07:52:42 PM by tinu »


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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2009, 02:12:04 AM »
Has anyone heard from Wilby? Hope he didnt have problems with posting the circuit vid on YT.
Mags

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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2009, 05:58:21 AM »
@HeairBear
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How would he have faked it? A battery in the core? Another coil at a good distance? I would like to see you make a working fake. I bet it won't be so easy...

Oh, they are all fakes because there is no conventional explanation for them. That is until your buying one off the shelf at walmart thinking---all those critics were just blowing smoke up their own ass, LOL. That is the way the inventive process works, nobody could possibly imagine how it could be done and then someone does it, it's called evolution.
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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2009, 12:07:47 PM »
Lets add this to the Mix.

*Patent
Author   Year   Title   Country   Assignee   Number   URL
   1971   ELECTROMECHANICAL ENERGY CONVERTER WITH LOW-INERTIA SPECIALLY WOUND COIL   United States      3624439   http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3624439.html

What this is a Conical Coil Winding as near as I can figure it has lower or little drag.

Pic's here from Keely-Net
01/24/06 - Magnetricity NeoGen PM Dynamo.

Anyone want to sign on to Free patents might find more I'm out for the night.

Be Well
Tinker

PS I messed up and put this on the Pinestone thread first.

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Offline mikestocks2006

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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2009, 05:48:02 PM »
This may aslo be of interest.
Both levitation and rotation of the spin plane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAtQAIZo0Yw&feature=related

Nice thread/info
Thanks
Mike


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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2009, 08:25:06 PM »
capacitor is 1 Farada = external battery

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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2017, 10:25:26 PM »
Just some thoughts on this over the years..

What would we have by winding 2 size wires in bifi? Recent thoughts are these...

The smaller wire is very small. If wound together and very neatly, the larger wire could basically lay as if it were the only wire and its inductance and resistance would pretty much be the same as if it were wound alone. So the capacitance would be asymmetrical.

Looking at the first circuit given on this threads 1st page is hard to discern the connections to the coil. The second circuit given shown below again is more detailed as to how the coil is connected.

If this second circuit is correct, then there is a diode in series where the coils are connected in the middle.  So if the coil gets a mag pass depending on the polarity and direction, the coil as a whole can gen up some charge into the 10uf cap. So after the charge period, each winding of the coil is at the voltage level of the cap that can be measured across the diode.  So then the reed closes at some point, and as shown, the reed would short out the cap along with the charge on the coil, which would flow through the diode now that the switch end is closed. So there may be a mag pulse from that and probably optimum reed close position would be if the poles of the ball mag are perpendicular to the coil, pull one side and push the other. Just a bip to possibly keep it going. it could be that the cap is just there to hold the voltage up until reed closure as the charge in the coils may dissipate before the reed gets to close. Dunno yet. Both circuits short the cap when the reed closes.

Now if the circuit were beyond what was given, I might think it could go like this....  Ill draw the circuit later

So we have the large wire and the small wire bifi and the large wire should be identical to a single wire coil of the same size, except this one has a fine wire that can lay in the open spaces between the large wire turns.

Also here we have the diode in the series connection of the coils, and they charge the cap in series, but, the discharge with the closing of the reed switch only discharges into the larger wire coil to push/pull the mag.  That idea comes from the question, why the 2 size wires? Why make them 2 sizes and just have them in series unless there is an advantage due to the asymmetrical capacitance.  So it seems more likely that the coils can work together to charge and possibly just discharge into the larger coil, lower ohms, harder pulse, etc.

Always wondered about the 2 wire sizes and I think that was what most interested me in being way different than others.

Mags

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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2017, 07:49:45 AM »
My biggest question is: How is it possible to calculate a circuit, accurate positions etc with math that says the output or product is higher than any given input?
My calculator still says that 1+1=2, 1-1=0, 2x2=4, 2/2=1.


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Re: HAS OVERUNITY BEEN ACHIEVED ??? CHECK THIS LINK
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2017, 09:38:31 AM »
                          over-unity " output>input process "phaenomen:

It is not a practizising problem,it is a mathematical and physics formula problem and phaenomen exploiting barrier :

                                   (-)1  / 0 =
          Divident positv/negativ and Divisor neutral=zero
                      total result = SYNTAX ERROR

          the need 4D/>4D....Minkowski Space-Time-Koordination

https://www.google.pt/search?q=verschiebungsstrom&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=efGwWcn6BIWt8weWka_ABw

physics description : Biot-Savart/Ampére/Laplace law applying

listen to the Dr.Pavel Imris capacitive coil patents/publications

the unknown and unkalkulability for engineers and technicians :
measured and approved=granted by prototyp,INPI Lisbon 2008/2009
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I am "New Waver",it began with "the class of 1984",visiting the
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« Last Edit: September 07, 2017, 11:53:05 AM by lancaIV »

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