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Author Topic: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps  (Read 146654 times)

Offline Harvey

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2009, 07:54:29 PM »
Hi Stefan,

The device I viewed is the same one in the first video in this thread, the large black device not the smaller silver or yellow suitcase models.

I did not see any transformer, and if you look, you will see that just a couple of thick wires run down to a 3 outlet distribution box. Those outlets are just two wire ungrounded standard North American AC outlets. Tucked up inside on the left you will see a white block with a wound coil, it is thin. Somehow this is used to help control the system and I think that is part of the proprietary information that Dr. Schwartz cannot share with us. You can see the hinge pin for the lid, there is no way for any wires to go inside of it, there are none outside the case, so the only wires are those that run from the panels to the outlets. I suppose those 3 interlock switches (that shut off if you close the lid) could each be tied to a different RF circuit and each panel tuned to that frequency somehow...or even some sort of RF switch in the distribution box? That's a small box, I just don't think there is enough room in there, so the recievers would need to be in the panels somewhere. However he did it, those lights are controlled by those switches wirelessly.

The demonstration was not intended for skeptical analysis, so I did not take any measurements. I figured that time would come when they actually reached a point for public consumption. I suppose the voltage could be all over the map there, and as long as the duty cycle was short enough, the lamps would handle it. I didn't hear of any arcing in the lamps or the outlets, so I don't think the voltage exceeds the maximum gaps on those.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2009, 08:16:07 PM »
This is amazing. That suitcase would pretty much ruin the luggage capacity of my bicycle, but even really conservative speed estimates for 4 horsepower tell me I'll be needing a motorcycle helmet and suit! A professional cyclist won't last longer than half an hour or so putting out 0.5hp.

If the plates were placed inside the front triangle of the bicycle frames, aerodynamics would be served well, and there's plenty of room here and there for the various other parts. The electric engine can sit in the rear hub. Power will need to be applied very carefully. Even my legs make wheelies hard to avoid during a mountainbike race start, being a few seconds at merely 1hp.

Will this be attemptedly commercialized, or open sourced? I hope soon bicycle-sized units can be made somewhat affordably...

What weight would a unit be for a car-sized unit, compared to batteries? Unlimited mileage...


If I understand how this works, it is geocentric and will lose it's syncronization (referred to as 'grounding' in the video) if put in motion. So the best that could be hoped for is a battery charger when the vehicle stops for a certain period of time and is 'grounded' to that location. Look inside that box, its full of air ;-)
(Dr. Schwartz used the box to transport the lamps and extra parts all in foam protection, otherwise I'm sure it would have been much smaller).

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2009, 08:24:19 PM »
hrmmm... I wonder how they obtain the frequency to extract the energy from the ground I sure hope some of our ground or earth energy folks are looking into this it seems way too simplistic maybe real who knows ...

But from my observation the dress style looks a bit last century ...

Not to say folks don't dress like that today...

Also it looks as if it is a VHS dub just some simple observations but the more people laying claims the more people invest research into stuff like this...

Yes, we need some folks that are 'well grounded' in cutting edge theory regarding free electrons and their charge differentials.

Last century was only 9 years ago... :(, I have cloths that go back 20 years - (comfy ;) )

Not sure what they used to film it, but my copy is on DVD :)

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2009, 04:00:01 AM »
Hello.

Even if you can make a device which will produce 100 watts, this is already enough to increase the power to ten times. I am from Canada, can I help you?

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2009, 01:10:23 PM »
Well, I must say, I value the opinions of giant invisible rabbits much more than I do the average run-of-the-mill bunch of wild asparagus I read here. In this case however I have to wonder whether logic and proportion have fled...
It is impossible for me to say more than the obvious: the device as shown is impossible.

There are some questions that arise immediately: What is the true etiology--that is, does this Schwartz device really have anything to do with the original "elemental rod" device with the two rods that was shown lighting up a bulb? 74 and 75 elements, remember that one? Just a small device, no electronics or fancy LED displays. And the website seems to make a continuous link  between that device and this one.

Now, that device...was it for real? If so, being so simple, what happened to it? Why aren't we seeing lots of pocket elemental rod generators without all the fancy BS?
If it wasn't for real, yet came from the same people...

Well, the default conclusion is pretty obvious to me. Nobody (except Sterling) is beating a path to these people's door. And the Noah's Ark Foundation...that sets off a whole nother set of alarm bells.

Doctor of What, by the way? And from what institute of higher learning?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2009, 01:10:23 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2009, 01:27:41 PM »
And of course Harvey, as our inside rabbit, is the only one who is even remotely in a position to find out more real information. YT videos aren't going to be very helpful in this case, especially if they are filled with obfuscating jargon, shills, and flashing blinky lights. It's clear from the videos that advertising is their purpose, not education; we are being told much more about the tacit operations of a schemer than we are about a revolutionary new energy device.

Instead of seeing it like a revelation from on high, try looking at it as a mystery novel, a whodunit of sorts. Remember the elemental rods. Consider the language used in the video. Did Doctor Schwartz sit down himself and figure out all the fancy "seek out and find" electronics, and then solder it all up himself? If you can light up a lightbulb with the original elemental rods, just the two rods on a little base... well, I think I'd prefer that one. After all, what's going to power your LEDs and seek-and-find circuit, BEFORE it's sought and found? Maybe it has an original elemental rod set inside, just for start-up.

So Harvey, if it is at all possible, it's up to you to infiltrate this shady operation and find out the real story. I don't care about the Pelican case, I want to see more of that original, simple, 2-rod Elemental Rod generator that was developed into the 6-rod version and then apparently into the present ERR device (which name cracks me up, I must say.) They clearly have moved beyond that device, so it should be no problem to examine it.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2009, 01:28:53 PM »
I think this thing is very exciting. I was looking around the web trying to do research on the left hand rule stuff. I have read that in the nanotechnology world there is lots of research going on and the "idea" behind this is valid. It seems like the Defense Department has an interest in this too. It doesn't seem important to me to disprove this thing or worry about what small country can't produce this or what organization can or can't sell it. That is time consuming waste and not solving the very real problems we have with energy and our planet. I think there is VERY intelligent people on this site and the Dr. even says in his papers that this is against conventional physics. I'm thinking this is a great opportunity to collectively design, develop, and get building. The computer was invented in a garage. Let's use this for our good. Why can't we use this area as a funnel to put together all the individual research we do topic related with links to help each other? We are looking here to solve a huge problem and this may very well be it.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2009, 01:34:26 PM »
You are right, and the way to solve it would be for Schwartz to take his Pelican case down to the nearest major University and demonstrate that thing in front of a classroom full of EE and ME graduate students at their weekly symposium.

Or even to a corporate entity.

Every second that this does not happen is, to me, additional evidence that we are being, shall we say, misled.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2009, 02:45:26 PM »
You are right, and the way to solve it would be for Schwartz to take his Pelican case down to the nearest major University and demonstrate that thing in front of a classroom full of EE and ME graduate students at their weekly symposium.

You really mean that it would so easy to go to the next University and demonstrat his intvention? What if they will not allow him this to do? Also they will ask him where the Energy is comeing from! And then?

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Or even to a corporate entity.

to mislead him immediately?

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2009, 07:42:10 PM »
You really mean that it would so easy to go to the next University and demonstrat his intvention? What if they will not allow him this to do? Also they will ask him where the Energy is comeing from! And then?

to mislead him immediately?

It's pretty clear from that, that you don't know any graduate students. Believe me, you show up in the grad commons with that suitcase, you sit down and buy a beer for the first EE grad student student that walks by, and you will be on a process that will end with you being rich beyond your wildest dreams, the world changed beyond recognition.

IF, that is, you can prove that it works as represented.

The ONLY real reason that Schwartz does not do this, is because he can't.

Think about it. If the suppression conspiracies were real AND Schwartz has what he claims, why is he still walking around sucking air? Why do we know about it at all?  But he is, and we do. Conclude, then, that BOTH cannot be true.
Now, IF Schwartz truly has what he claims, then, by the above, suppression conspiracies cannot be true. SO, A)why isn't he going to Universities or corporations? And B)why is he following the exact same strategy that many other known scammers follow, instead of legitimately seeking patents and industrial support and development? But A he isn't, and B he is.
Therefore, I maintain that the conclusion is unavoidable, without even seeing the device in person, because of the behaviour of the "inventor."

Doctor of what, by the way? Awarded from which institution of higher learning? Where can I read his doctoral dissertation?
Inquiring minds want to know.

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Offline amigo

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2009, 08:47:56 PM »
I just noticed this thread and I figured might as well chime in. :)

First I have to agree with TinselKoala's analysis, this can't be suppression as there are alphabet agencies out there than can find a cockroach in an Amazon forest with the tech they have, so if they can't find this guy they should close shop. More likely if these claims are true, they (agencies, powers) simply don't care, they know it's bogus, or they set him up as a "plant" (Astroturfing also comes to mind)...

I would also like to add that we have seen dime a dozen of these old geezers hiding somewhere in the nethers of the planet Earth, scheming how to get rich and move to Florida to spend the rest of their days. This particular gentleman is in the Philippines, as far as I understand it, I guess "hiding" from TPTB as well?!

Some of these guys might actually have useful stuff or information, but they are hording it for themselves, as stated above, hoping they could make millions off of it. That's just not the way to go about it and they must know it (at least suppressed somewhere deep inside them).

I am sick and tired of this kind of bullshit and, can't wait for their breed to die so we can get a new wave of old geezers who might be willing to freely share what they know for the benefit of all earthlings.

And if those don't share, then we'll have to wait for yet another wave of old geezers (and why is it that only people who are close to cross-over time know these things anyways?!) to see if they come forth.

My 2c...

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2009, 01:07:15 AM »
A few seconds after reading TK's post a huge white rabbit materialized in front of me and started talking. This scared the hell out of me. He went onto explain that the device was real and it was being powered by invisable hampsters running wheels contected to generators (also invisable).
I am now totally convinced.
PS the rabbit said his name was Mylow.
Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2009, 07:46:32 AM »
   Not sure what you are smokin' but can I have some?   8)

thay

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2009, 08:16:15 AM »
Hello TK, Amigo - I don't know if I would even try to patent something like the ERR. The way you two make it sound, MIB's are out there but they are not interested in these things or we would know by now. I forget where I read it, but someone in one of the forums, maybe Steorn was talking about patents and government suppression quite a while back. Either of you recall that? Something about National Security and not being able to do anything with it for a year or something like that? I'm sure it happens, or those sections wouldn't exist in the code. At any rate, you know how paranoid I am ;)

I've been told that this technoloogy in simpler form has been demonstrated at university levels. It does not utilize the mischmetal type stacks as that has been difficult to manufacture and the yield was very low thus not coast effective.

Honestly, it matters not what anyone thinks or whether they think the kind Doctor has any responsibility toward the public or not. In fact, I would say that alsetalokin (TK) has a greater responsibilty to bring closure to his OC MPMM game than Dr. Schwartz has to anyone who has viewed his reseaurch statements whether printed or visual. I find no obligation on his part what-so-ever just because he willingly shared the knowledge that alternative energy is viable.

TK, do you think Tesla's work was impossible as well? Do you imagine that his nephew's statements regarding the Buffalo NY test drive was just folklore? What about when he sent a surge back through the power lines at Colorado Springs and burnt out the Generators? Or his Wardenclyffe project, do you think he was building something that wouldn't work? Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it is impossible - after all, your cells are aging as we speak an no one understands why, after 30 years of perfect rejuvination the process just stops. Must be impossible, right?

Get all the facts before you Assassinate someones character.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2009, 09:56:28 AM »
The inventor believes that civilization will collapse and is preparing for it.
Hes institute is dedicated to helping people cope with that,as regards to water,food,and energy.
The key question is ,is the ERR real or a hoax,fraud or prank,
the inventor is not giving up details to build either the ERR or the rod device
I noticed that when that subject comes up he changes the subject,people on hes yahoo group ask for details
he gives them none.Hes theory of operation of the ERR is silly,you can't create energy
so to be real it has to be an energy converter of an unknown source or a fraud, hoax or prank.
My own opinion is its real, but a very flaky device, in its present
form and would never be allowed to be sold,both rod and ERR devices
he knows this.
Since he will not release the exact details to build either one,the debate will go on forever.
Since he wants to make a profit out of it and is afraid that some people will
 get killed trying to  making it,or steal it,
he will never release exact details how to build rod or ERR,so its a dead end.
Our government (US) would view him as a crack pot,scammer or nut case and leave him alone
 because
 hes claims from a standard physics
view are "impossible"!!!,so it must be a fraud.

No offence to the inventor but hes motives
are very hard to figure out,better mankind or make some big bucks or show people look what I have
now guess how it works because I'm not telling you how to make it.



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