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Author Topic: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps  (Read 146653 times)

Offline stprue

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2009, 11:17:34 PM »
Hartiberlin, Can you tell me where you got this information from? It is my understanding that this was NOT ready for public release and only a few of us had access to the original information.

Thank You,

Harvey

Wouldn't you want this information out?  What do you mean only  few of us had access?  This site is dedicated to finding free energy and giving it/inventing it for all for free!  If people are hiding info or tech. then they shouldn't be here! 

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2009, 11:52:08 PM »
I got permission from Dr. Schwartz to post it over here.

He emailed me several times and I joined his yahoogroups.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2009, 12:27:13 AM »
This is amazing. That suitcase would pretty much ruin the luggage capacity of my bicycle, but even really conservative speed estimates for 4 horsepower tell me I'll be needing a motorcycle helmet and suit! A professional cyclist won't last longer than half an hour or so putting out 0.5hp.

If the plates were placed inside the front triangle of the bicycle frames, aerodynamics would be served well, and there's plenty of room here and there for the various other parts. The electric engine can sit in the rear hub. Power will need to be applied very carefully. Even my legs make wheelies hard to avoid during a mountainbike race start, being a few seconds at merely 1hp.

Will this be attemptedly commercialized, or open sourced? I hope soon bicycle-sized units can be made somewhat affordably...

What weight would a unit be for a car-sized unit, compared to batteries? Unlimited mileage...

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2009, 08:54:28 AM »
I got permission from Dr. Schwartz to post it over here.

He emailed me several times and I joined his yahoogroups.

Hope this helps.

Hi Harti

very good device
can we buy a prototype ? the little one ?

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2009, 02:47:25 PM »
   You all should take note of what is said on the main page of their web page.  They dont intend to fight with large companies to market it here (usa). It will mostly be put to use in small countries. They are in the Philippines so that they can be left alone and not be badgered by big oil and the likes. Its the same old story no matter where you  go.  Status Quo.
   But dang straights, if you could get a unit for a bike, we would most likely start riding them. I would. I have been looking into different systems and the best mileage I have seen so far is Eco Bike. It has a frame mounted motor and transfer system and is touted to go 100 miles per charge. I am not plugging them at all cause it will set you back $1400 not including the bike. Which should be a recumbant by the way. I cant peddle any more so I am shafted there.
   In the end, he wants to make money from the idea. Most do. Being that they are a "foundation", they cannot directly sell you a unit. You can buy the rights to produce and sell them your self. At that point, then you become the point of interest to big oil. Sad huh?

thaelin

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2009, 03:25:17 PM »
   You all should take note of what is said on the main page of their web page.  They dont intend to fight with large companies to market it here (usa). It will mostly be put to use in small countries. They are in the Philippines so that they can be left alone and not be badgered by big oil and the likes. Its the same old story no matter where you  go.  Status Quo.

Small countries are not allowed to develop. If they do, their resources can not be plundered. When do these people/inventors learn they can not even begin to make money from free-energy?

How long before we hear this device is fake or the thread goes dead?

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2009, 01:56:27 AM »
I've been in contact with James Schwartz hell of a guy it seems...

Anyhow his plans are not to sell out to big business but instead give the device to the people so lets get that much straight.

If he swings up to Canada in the near future as he plans he asked if he could stop by I said without a doubt he is more then welcome to swing on over.

So lets not try and slam the fella who has been working at tech like this for 17 years.

Thank you much and enjoy! The future may not be as bleak as some may think hang in there folks I truely understand why everyone has doubt but this time lets just cut the guy a break.

For reference purposes he will allow viewing of the device to be done once things are final anyone can then view the device at his research facility!

Take Care folks just figure I would share.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2009, 02:09:34 AM »
i am happy to fly to the philipines to see what they have now.
My only concern at this stage (and its the sceptic comming out of me) is the demo's are very short. I am sad to say it would be very easy to make a device in a suitcase to do that.
However 17 years is a long time.
So Stephan...put it to him that I am happy to fly there and have a look and report back to everyone what I find. I am happy to sign an NDA
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2009, 06:23:04 AM »
Well I spoke with Dr. Schwartz yesterday and did ask him about the early release of this information and he confirmed that he had shared it with Stephen and gave his permission to publish it here. But he also expressed his concern regarding the safety of its operation. In other words, it still has some small quirks he is working on that may pose safety issues, he's been zapped and evidently while not touching anything.

I suppose now that the cat is out of the bag, I can share that I have seen this device personally and what you see in the video is exactly what I saw in person. There is one thing in particular that I noticed that many may miss. There are no wires connecting the panels to the control circuitry. When you see those switches being pushed down and the lights going off you know for sure that the control circuitry is controlling the panels somehow. But the only wires from the panels go directly down to the power distribution box that the lamps are plugged into. You can see this in the video. Clearly, those panels are the only source of power for those lights. The lamp I inspected had what looked like a factory label that read "800W" and appeared to be an automotive style spotlamp with huge candlepower. It definitely gets hot fast.

Now we have both skeptics and believers among us. The skeptics will no doubt claim that those panels could be filled with cell phone batteries while the believers will base their understanding on prior works of Tesla, Moray and Marks. My advice to the skeptics is "move along, nothing to see here", while the believers, if they are patient are encouraged to join Dr. Schwartz's Yahoo Groups and await further information as it is provided.

Yours Truly,

The Hundredth Monkey....(maybe) ;-)

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2009, 12:10:41 PM »
To Harvey
At what voltage were the 800 watt light bulbs operated at 12 volts or 120 volts or ?.He has
12 coils per panel,the coils are really a transformer,having a primary and secondary,
he has to wire the secondaries  in parallel ,series or a combination.The primary is pulsed the
 secondary is the output,the wire is gold plated
wire it looks to be about 30 gauge,that does not carry too much current.
I believe it works but I don't believe it outputs this level of power,
more like 1,000 watts for all three panels.He made  thousands of the
 rod device some were 900 watts output,in japan,the government destroyed them all.
Why did the government destroy them theres something fishy here.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2009, 02:14:29 PM »
  Look, wires are only defining a maximum current they can carry, but you can extract exact amount of power with 10V and 100A and with 1000V and 1A(with proper isolation :)). Even the smallest copper wires you can find in 12V relays can carry about 2 amps! So i think that ERR can power a 6kW loads with ease.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2009, 07:03:51 PM »
Sorry if this has been explored before,  but the last 2 or 3 years of many people trying to replicate the SM TPU with various coils made me wonder if there is something to this left-hand winding of the coils.  Anyone wind there coils this manner?   What effect does a left-handed winding have?

quote from the good Dr from earlier post.

" Much of my research over the past 17 years has proved that these new kinds of materials can cause different affects when it comes to magnetic fields. I’m already using left-handed material in my ERR (Electromagnetic Radiation Receiver) experiments. I’ve proven this theory with my ERR prototype. Lawrence Rayburn a researcher of electromagnetic fields has also proved this theory with his left-hand wound coils. Even though some of us have proven the left-hand theory, no one seems to want to admit that we have disproved one of the sacred laws of nature."

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2009, 07:10:08 PM »
Hi Harvey,
did you look into the suitcase box or only
from a few meters away ?

Maybe you missed some connections ?

I can not believe what you say.

There must be probably some kind of excitation
from the controller box to the panels ?

Maybe all output coils from the
panels were in parallel to support a higher current at
12 Volts ?

Or did you see a transformer in the box there, so the output from
the coils was probably high voltage and low current and
a impedance transformer was used to power these car lamps ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2009, 07:16:21 PM »
Ok, looks like three of our forum members are in touch with Dr. So would it be possible to arrange a demo ?

We are desperate for free energy, look at these forums, thousands of threads and ideas, but nothing useful so far.

One needs to go and bring back a working model, I hope he won't mind. Replicating from bits and pieces of information and a few diagrams always leads to failure. People give up and move on.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2009, 07:26:59 PM »
The output voltage and frequency of the panels in not consistant - there is a lot of interaction not only between each other but with the natural fluctuations in the earths electrical field which is affected in part by large power grids. IIRC, the output was considered to be pulsed low voltage ~12V - but this could just be an average value. AFAIK, there are no filters on the output stage, so the lamps were taking the energy as it was delivered. The lower voltage, higher current is somewhat supported in the fact that during the initial filming the unit was left running while the camera man tried to find a way to reduce the lens-halo glare. I don't know the time frame involved, but I do know that the wire used was standard household zip cord, 16AWG stranded which was attached to heavier gauge spotlamp leads. During that longer run the insulation on the smaller wires began to melt from the over current.

Please keep in mind that the video was made as a proof of concept and that the device is a research prototype far from any production device ready for detailed scrutiny. Also please note that Dr. Schwartz cannot disclose all the details of its operation at this time because of current agreements that need to be fulfilled.

It is my understanding that the group involved with this research made a decision to allow public feedback on the concept without giving out information that could endanger anyone should they try and build one. I think one of the problems is that the system seems sensitive to EM discharges (lightning) even when it is miles away and the operation of the early devices near certain electronic circuity has been known to cause damage. This particular device however, was run relatively close to a nearby TV-Monitor as well as my cell phone, my wife's cell phone and possibly other things unknown to me. My cell phones work fine...although the batteries have needed replaced o.O J/K - we have 5 here of that same model, 3 of which were not present at the demonstration. Out of the 5, only 3 needed replaced and my battery was not one of them ;-)

I do not recall seeing any gold plating on the wires, keep in mind that some fresh copper wire has a yellowish tint depending on the purity and the protective coating used.

Another important factor to keep in mind here is that the panels themselves are large thermal dissipation surfaces, so even if the coil wires were running above their rated amperage it is quite likely that they would not fail. Also, IIRC, there are two or four output windings on each coil. It is possible that the actual power being delivered in electrical terms may only be 120W per panel, but the way the energy flows the lamps respond to it as if it were 800W of DC - I don't know. 12 cores wrapped with four 28AWG coils could easily support that possibility with no problem.

Even if it were 120W per panel it would  be a huge advancement in technology. But remember, Dr. Schwartz is working in an entirely new field where left is right and right is left with regards to how the magnetic forces work with the materials. So for us to try and apply conventional theory to what he has accomplished may be a futile exercise. The real question here, for me is: "Can I light up my house with the same candle power by using this device instead?" I'm ready to try it. All the overhead lights in my house are on a single circuit (including an inductive ceiling fan). It would be an easy thing for me to convert that circuit over to this device and do some field testing. In fact, I would only need a single panel unit, as the maximum on my overheads (excluding the fan) is about 900W total and we never have them all on at once. All I need is the go ahead from the group and I'll get the ball rolling on that.

I don't think I'm supposed to get this excited all at once - I might have to chill out and visit Farmville to settle down - oddly relaxing game as long as you don't have to deal with Zynga's customer service. :) Seems the whole world is in BETA test mode - bleagh.

Cheers,

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