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stprue

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #405 on: December 06, 2009, 08:41:45 PM »
Hi wrote 60-70 kHz, not Hz.

My mistake! 

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #406 on: December 17, 2009, 05:58:31 AM »
Here is a newly posted video of Don demonstrating his unit starting around 2:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJGRKg54yao&feature=related
this is one of ninteen.  in one of the earlier ones he ran the same device using smaller bulbs.  after that he disconnected the ground wire and forgot to rehook it so during this last run the readings were a bit lower

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #407 on: January 07, 2010, 03:08:26 PM »
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« Last Edit: January 07, 2010, 08:32:57 PM by mlurye »

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #408 on: February 09, 2010, 03:21:55 PM »
All I know guys is that charging capacitors by shorting manually the battery i got yellow and blue sparks and with this last ones my capacitors of 300v charged up to 150 and 200+ volts ,now, not every cap does this the supercaps can't do it, bateries can't do it, this are caps that i took from a disposable camera the energy disipates after a while but then again is able to blow up a small light bulb and from only 12v 8mah battery doing the pulse charge? I was really amazed, I thing smith has a real theory but we don't know all of this small details that have to play its part like and orchestra, a very well tunned one if you ask me, thing is I commend you for your efforts at replicating , is the only way theory and talking just won't cut it, still waiting for my own resources to balance out so i can build one of this, in the meantime don't let go on that bone!1keep up the good work .Good luck to all!!
 

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #409 on: February 10, 2010, 06:47:45 PM »
hello to everyone, have enjoyed this thread; just got through reading all the post, was woundering how peters build was going? looks really GOOD! also looks like it's been over 2 months since his last post; or update..  also don was selling a couple of video's on the nuenergy website; the weekend workshop and  the  video dealing with this build..  has anyone posted these on one of the tube networks yet?? or would they please;  it would be of an enormous help here!!  also don had a book out called " an answer to america's energy deficit"; does anyone have a copy of this book?   great work guys!! thanks, dag

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #410 on: February 15, 2010, 11:39:40 PM »
Just search youtube for it, it`s all out there.
But don`t base your component data on anything Don sais.
He sometimes mistakes capacitors for being 15.000 Volt when they are 4000 Volt and NSTs being 9.000 Volt when the label reads 3000 Volt.

I have friends in russia and japan, and there is no Don Smith devices "in large quantities" on the markets over there in contrast to what Smith said in 1996.
So it looks like he was just bought up and the production efforts were frozen by counteracting interests.
Smith`s theories do nonetheless have IMHO a high potential.

grizli

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #411 on: March 23, 2010, 03:15:12 PM »
Ao what we know ?

Fasts here are confusing me
Acording to smith videos images documents and schematics i got this conclusion

First he use center tapped NST switch mode transformer, spark gap and two HV diodes to excite primary LC circuit.
In his video there is 0,2uF capacitor paralel to 4 turns coil, which should probably give about 50-100khz resonance frequency which suggest that his resonance frequency of LC circuit primary is EXACTLY the same as switching frequency of NST..
Half part of secondary has 0,047uF capacitor paralel which probably gives the SAME resonant frequency as in primary LC circuit..

Other half of secondary coil is free (no capacitor)...
Now what confuses me : HOW can LOW frequency sine wave trigger much higher frequency quater wave oscilation in other part of coil ?
Probably sine LC is about 100khz and 15 turns secondary has quater wave about few Mhz...
I reall wonder why primary has no square wave triggering or larger capacitor that gives strong pulse to LC primary which would generate harmonic full siganl which would trigger secondary..


Any idea whats going on here ?

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #412 on: March 23, 2010, 03:21:42 PM »
I'd agree with forest, from what I read the bang that agitates 'the ambient' must come from a HV disruptive discharge (in this case of the capacitor) into a line (or a loop). Somewhere in PJK's description of Don Smith's device, he mentions a tiny spark gap almost integrated with NPS. It seems to me, driving the primary tank with 4-9kV and 0.1uF capacitor discharge must produce more sparks than a tiny thing can handle.



spark is tiny cause NST SMPS is AC and its frequency equals LC resonance frequency of primary coil  so it is just adding energy to paralel LC circuit

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #413 on: March 23, 2010, 04:31:51 PM »
you use the smaller coil to "bang" the larger LC which is tuned. This design is very much similar to a Tesla design. the fact is you need to tune the larger to 1/4 wavelength of the primary. Some have said the primary (smaller coil) is mostly irrelevant, but Don said it should be 1/4 the length of the secondary. The spark gap is the key here, look at the Tesla patents. Multiple shots from the NST into the primary (control) coil which resonates the secondary (collector) coil with a couple of diodes and capacitors to do a Power Factor correction. rate the caps and diodes to handle the voltage.

Now there is some confusion that the output circuit is a loop of wire through the center of the secondary (90 degree sudo coil, kapendanze) or is there another (second/conventional) coil. This has yet to be determined or shared. I see this device is an electron pump so a resonant state on the output is probably not desired since movement (pulsed DC??) is required to move the electrons (TBD). I see that a ground source provides a larger pool of electrons, thus more output. I am sure you can drive a simple output coil/wire with this device, look at Don's demo device on the board, the air core coil on the far right, this has its secondary grounded on one side. Getting clearer yet? All are similar in design, all use a low current HV source with a spark gap to activate the electron pump. This design will allow you to loop the output back to drive the device.

Free Energy, Nothing free here, just converting energy, it takes energy to make it. OU, no, this is an energy converter, you are using what is already provided.

I am working on this myself so I will post results on this but will not give it away totally. I want to get this out without suppression so when I figure this out I will share it but probably not the way some would like.

The NST can be replaced by a car ignition coil BTW, the spark gap used by Don is a small enclosed unit that is used for over voltage protection that is used in electronic devices. Make one out of some steel rod.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #414 on: March 23, 2010, 05:08:43 PM »
spark is tiny cause NST SMPS is AC and its frequency equals LC resonance frequency of primary coil  so it is just adding energy to paralel LC circuit

Hmm...I'm not sure but seems that Kapanadze device "spark" is silent .... can someone confirm ?

grizli

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #415 on: March 23, 2010, 06:44:09 PM »
you use the smaller coil to "bang" the larger LC which is tuned. This design is very much similar to a Tesla design. the fact is you need to tune the larger to 1/4 wavelength of the primary. Some have said the primary (smaller coil) is mostly irrelevant, but Don said it should be 1/4 the length of the secondary. The spark gap is the key here, look at the Tesla patents. Multiple shots from the NST into the primary (control) coil which resonates the secondary (collector) coil with a couple of diodes and capacitors to do a Power Factor correction. rate the caps and diodes to handle the voltage.


All in all you havent commented that capacitor values which are BIG clearly suggest that resonance LC frequency is FAR AWAY or far lower than 1/4 wavelength for that secondary wire!!!
200nF and 4 turns of coil probably make resonance at 100khz(around) but 1/4 wavelength is in mhz range..

mabe capacitor values on video are WRONG ?

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #416 on: March 31, 2010, 12:29:01 AM »
OK, well I have started my build of the Don Smith table top device, my pix are shown below. I am using a standard car ignition coil for the time being and will obtain a NST with a 9KV output in the near future if my present HV setup fails to yield any results.

I still need to finish a few build requirements but wanted to share my progress to date. I am on vacation (kids on spring break) so I have some free time to tinker. Life always seems to get in the way when I want to play :)

I am going to run some preliminary tests on the coils as-is to see what the output maybe. I will be scoping the coils as well as checking them with a HV probe (this is first BTW) to see what output is provided. I still need to obtain and install the diodes and final stage capacitors. After the preliminary tests I will then determine if this design has any merit and whether to proceed with further tests and design changes (more coils?).

Current build specs;

Primary coil 5 turns 3/8' soft copper tubing

Secondary coil  2 x 28 turns stranded copper 16Ga wire

Form, 24" L x 2 3/8" OD PVC pipe from Home Depot, cut into 12" lengths

HV source, Standard Car Ignition coil, new from autozone, no resistor required. Output wire is a stranded core type.

Coil control module, GM ignition module

Module Trigger will be an RCA tube audio signal generator

Spark Gap is home made from 1/4" cold rolled steel rod from home Depot. @ sections @ 3" each


I should be posting my preliminary results later today if not tomorrow.


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #417 on: March 31, 2010, 12:33:24 AM »
All in all you havent commented that capacitor values which are BIG clearly suggest that resonance LC frequency is FAR AWAY or far lower than 1/4 wavelength for that secondary wire!!!
200nF and 4 turns of coil probably make resonance at 100khz(around) but 1/4 wavelength is in mhz range..

mabe capacitor values on video are WRONG ?

Which capacitors are you referring to? The output stage or the input?

The input stage is for metering the frequency of the sparks, The output side is using the large caps to store potential and are a PF (power Factor) correction network. Look up power factor correction to see why he is using the size he is.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #418 on: March 31, 2010, 04:16:28 AM »
   The spark gap could act as a receiving antennae or field for any number of high power waves.  This would be photons converting into plasmons.  The plasma oscillations or electron density waves in the gap then electrostatically or capacitively couple to the lc for conversion of the energy to lower frequency.  The output lc is designed to ring at a frequency that accumulates power in the secondary at a lower frequency than the input so as to minimize radiant losses and maximise power gain.  The bulbs form the resistance in an rlc.  Or you could just bleed the capacitors into an inverter circuit whatever.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #419 on: March 31, 2010, 05:32:54 PM »
Sparks,

I believe the spark gap is creating the effect that Tesla and Edison saw when engaging the DC generators, creating that radiant pulse in the wires. What SM and others have reproduced, IMO, is the same effect using the spark gap. HV output from a TC or NST ( a few thousand volts) and using a spark gap to create HV pulses thru the primary wire. cannon shots, lots of them with a fast send off....

Use the secondary to harvest the radiant.

I also think the 90 degree coupling is the output wire going thru the air-core coil, like Kapanadze is doing and I think SM did too. Lots of conjecture yes, but some experiments to be done to tell for sure.

Looping the out put back to the input is then relatively simple since the output is isolated from the input anyways, use a transformer to isolate and step down the voltage to run the TC driver