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baroutologos

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #390 on: December 04, 2009, 11:36:16 PM »
What you mean Marko? Please elaborate. I posses a ignition coil and microwave Hv diodes. What can i do to see the effect?

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #391 on: December 05, 2009, 12:02:55 AM »
It does if you stick in a high voltage diode (or enough 1Kv types in series) right after the ignition coil...
Think in terms like spark can go out, but not in.
Then you pull a big spark to some (free, not connected) metal rod and then you can already feel the radiant energy in the environment.

Marco, please correct me if I'm wrong, but when you rectify AC with a diode, it becomes a (pulsing) DC.

However, it doesn't make much difference because you use the potential to charge your metal rod (and if it doesn't discharge - then that's it, you won't have another spark). Do we call a corona 'radiant energy'?

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #392 on: December 05, 2009, 12:37:18 AM »
Offcource it is a pulsed DC High Voltage discharge when it leaves the diode...
My point was that it's possible to generate the effect while the transformer/ignition coil is AC driven.
Without the diode it does not work or at least it did not work in my tests.

I won't call corona radiant energy.
Corona is concentrated locally around conductors,sharp tips etc. while radiant is spread out in the environment much further and like some sort of invisible pressure.

These are definatly two diffrent things.  :)

Marco.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #393 on: December 05, 2009, 01:08:45 AM »
If I may just briefly continue on the Don's concept (in the picture above from his demonstration video from 00:51:30 mark, the comment was that it was 8kV AC that was coming from the hand-held TC, powered by a standalone dielectric testing device with a battery pack - not connected to earth circuit in the building. The TC sparks into a capacitor, with an earth wire sparking on the other side. Assuming, a (good) capacitor is essentially a "blocking device", doesn't allow electrons from one plate to jump through the insulator to the other side - particularly in the open circuit like that on the demo. Don said that what was coming out on the other side of the capacitor was "ambient background energy" that is ready to be picked up. Commercial devices are used in aviation, scooters etc.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #394 on: December 05, 2009, 01:10:23 AM »

Do you discussing here from this
Mr Smith ?
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=1078

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #395 on: December 05, 2009, 01:15:21 AM »
Hi Pese  :)

We are discussing this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UojMvCN3gck

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #396 on: December 05, 2009, 01:56:20 AM »
Well, to conclude, I've tried this today, didn't work for me. ::)
I used a flyback transformer HV coil with integrated rectifier/multiplier/whatever, - should be minimum 4KV DC (smoothed for the telly screen)  with my own primary and feedback winding, the oscillator powered from 12V DC battery.
HV DC is connected to a spark-gap TC of Don's design, slightly varied, as I did not have exctly same components on hand. A home-made Alu-PVC-oil cap (calculated 5nF) for the primary tank and I did not bother to tune the secondary as it is not loaded yet, and so I did not tune the primary either - my SGap producing just a "disruptive discharge".
Different sources of Don's device description tell different story - coil wire length ratio (1:4), in another source - wire length of the primary is not important (but then you have to tune it with a cap  ??? ) yaman, total gridlock.

Anyway, after some fiddling and coupling, I get same size and strength of spark as in the primary spark gap, on both upper and lower section of the coil against the central tap as well as between themselves - which is good, and safe enough. But...
 It doesn't produce the discussed effect - I have no spark on the earth side of a two plate capacitor.

Must check my earth cable and connection tomorrow.... 

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #397 on: December 05, 2009, 02:34:46 AM »
Do you discussing here from this Mr Smith ?
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=1078

Pese

Well, most of the document make sence. And I agree that we spend a lot of money trying to replicate something simple like he claims but never seen working. Obviously, we do need to grasp the concept before trying to replicate something.
However, we watched Kapanadze video of a working unit, and the concept is similar. So we'll keep trying. :D

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #398 on: December 05, 2009, 07:03:52 AM »
    If we form a field of positively charged ionized gas.  This acts as a capacitor plate.  The ionized gas can be caused to remain in the "capacitor plate"  by response of the gas to a magnetic field.  The gas atomic neuclei have a magnetic dipole moment that will align with a magnetic field and any heating of the ions is converted into increased cyclotron frequency about the magnetic field lines.  The magnetic field lines so arranged as to cause the ionized gas to remain in a spatial zone or create a cloud of positively charged particles that are magnetically confined.  A macrospcopic grouping of positively charged ions of billions of ionized atoms results in a very charged up capacitor if one agrees that the Earth is negatively charged or the other plate of the capacitor.  The electrical polarization of the field about this ion cloud is powerful. Lightning storm powerful.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #399 on: December 05, 2009, 10:18:37 AM »
    If we form a field of positively charged ionized gas.  This acts as a capacitor plate.  The ionized gas can be caused to remain in the "capacitor plate"  by response of the gas to a magnetic field.  The gas atomic neuclei have a magnetic dipole moment that will align with a magnetic field and any heating of the ions is converted into increased cyclotron frequency about the magnetic field lines.  The magnetic field lines so arranged as to cause the ionized gas to remain in a spatial zone or create a cloud of positively charged particles that are magnetically confined.  A macrospcopic grouping of positively charged ions of billions of ionized atoms results in a very charged up capacitor if one agrees that the Earth is negatively charged or the other plate of the capacitor.  The electrical polarization of the field about this ion cloud is powerful. Lightning storm powerful.

My first test, 8 euro plasmaglobe, aluminium foil, exsaust light tube.
what the next step?

 

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #400 on: December 05, 2009, 01:34:04 PM »
   Convert the hf hv across the fl bulb to lower frequency lower voltage.  Drive a small motor.  More interesting.  Later on you can use air as a fuel and get a very dense confined cloud to work with.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #401 on: December 05, 2009, 05:57:32 PM »
   Convert the hf hv across the fl bulb to lower frequency lower voltage.  Drive a small motor.  More interesting.  Later on you can use air as a fuel and get a very dense confined cloud to work with.

playing wit plasma globe it is possible to power 4 led lamp (220V 2W) no matter to put it on ground or on aluminium foil.
I have measured frequency between close to 60 - 70 kHz's

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #402 on: December 05, 2009, 08:10:30 PM »
WOW that is pretty impressive!  60-70hertz!  Have you tried hooking it up to an inverter?  What is the amplitude out?

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #403 on: December 06, 2009, 02:35:31 PM »

Hi wrote 60-70 kHz, not Hz.

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