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Author Topic: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts  (Read 453372 times)

forest

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #360 on: November 29, 2009, 01:07:32 PM »
I feel that the mystery is hidden in primary circuit. It has to produce "radiant energy" in circumference of secondary coils. Neons are required then to tune it.

Peterae

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #361 on: November 29, 2009, 01:12:19 PM »
indeed forest

I have been trying to work out the best way to make my primary HV cap up 200nF 4kv, and just stumbled on 2 Dubilier paper/oil caps which are 0.1uf and 4kv, i have never seen anyone use paper/oil caps for tuning coils before (that maybe my inexperience) anyone know if they would work ok

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Peter

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #362 on: November 29, 2009, 01:20:51 PM »
Some interesting thoughts to consider you find there :
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5009-discussion-re-physics-behind-negative-energy-systems-radiant-spikes.html

First we must learn how to produce radiant longitudinal waves then what Don is saying maybe the response of Earth ambient background to radiant.
I believe you can feel the success if you find you primary emanates electrostatic like field.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #363 on: November 29, 2009, 01:24:54 PM »
LOL i have a couple of those oil caps too ( 0.1uf 3000v ) and i am always looking for them because they are the only ones that can handle 3Kv  :)
They work Great.
Better then the yellow poly ones. ( if they are not costum made? i might add)

And i have to say, Peter that setup looks great it really does.
I'm wondering which material those secondary coils are made of...
Also it seemed to me Don used 6mm2 car amplifyer supply wire for his primary,which is standed, and it looks you are using somesort of solid tubing for that is that correct?
It could play a major part in high frequency operation however i could be wrong.


I believe you can feel the success if you find you primary emanates electrostatic like field.


I think you are right Forest.
I have felt this electrostatic pressure while feeding 35Kv though somehigh voltage diodes to a metal piece as a long spark.
You willknow when you have it because you can feel it comming straight through well isolated tools when you bring them close   :)
It does not hurt it just feels like tingling.

Marco.

 

Peterae

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #364 on: November 29, 2009, 01:54:07 PM »
Thanks guys.

Well i have just ordered those caps from ebay £12 a pop but something that will hopefully last a lifetime.

My secondary coils are made using tinned copper wire i made 2 sets of coils first was 14swg but i decided this was probably thinker that what Don used so i then dropped down to 16swg, i used grommet strip and epoxy to hold it all together, the grommet strip has grooves cut to push the wire down into place and the glue holds it down permanently.

I am not so sure thats speaker wire that he used for his primary, where did you get this info.
It looked very much like HV cable to me which i used, i bought 18awg multi-stranded 16kv wire for my primary.

I have also ordered a sniffer device that Don used in one of the videos to detect the field area, the one that beeps when close to a properly working device.

Peter

turbo

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #365 on: November 29, 2009, 02:14:23 PM »
Thanks guys.

I am not so sure thats speaker wire that he used for his primary, where did you get this info.
It looked very much like HV cable to me which i used, i bought 18awg multi-stranded 16kv wire for my primary.

Peter

Okay i didn't mean speaker wire , but the one that goes from the battery to the amp...
The red one.

Heres a couple of pic's and your righ't Peter it could very well be silicon HV wire used for Neon...since he is using other Neon stuff too.
In any case it does not look like solid wire but maybe it works with both...i hope so  :)

Marco.

Peterae

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #366 on: November 29, 2009, 02:33:53 PM »
Hi marco

It's difficult to be sure about the primary wire he used, but in the Investors Weekend video a guy holds up the device with Don his arm pushes on the red wire and it bends easily and when he moves his arm away it goes back to it's original shape and also the coil moves in and out of the secondary coil with ease, i must conclude from this that the wire is extremely flexible in nature, also the wire he uses from the secondary side and caps looks very similar wire although different colours and when you zoom into the wire itself it doesn't look very thick gauge.
I personaly think it is HV wire.

The wire i am using is stranded not solid wire.

Peter

turbo

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #367 on: November 29, 2009, 03:16:42 PM »
okay i have both.
I will give it a try too  :)

M.

Peterae

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #368 on: November 29, 2009, 03:27:15 PM »
certainly worth covering both angles ;)

I still need to find a nice 47nF 8kv cap if anyone has any ideas?

Are you building this as well marco.

Peter

turbo

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #369 on: November 29, 2009, 03:37:15 PM »
certainly worth covering both angles ;)

I still need to find a nice 47nF 8kv cap if anyone has any ideas?

Are you building this as well marco.

Peter

Yes i am.
But i am also working on P. & A. Correa's  PAGD.
This is a verry intresting device but it involves evacuated tubes, glassblowing etc.
I am also still working on Mark's TPU although that should be finished soon  :)

Marco.

stprue

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #370 on: November 29, 2009, 04:20:28 PM »
Hi marco
I have ordered the book Don references to with the charts but it has not arrived yet.

I am slowly getting to the point where i can progress, my main concern so far has been getting my coils to the right dimensions.

I have just powered up using a sig gen and a 200nF cap across my primary, i wanted to see what i would get on an untuned secondary coil.

I have attached 2 FFT shots

I am not yet ready to power this with an NST as it hasn't arrived yet but soon.

Peter

Looks great Peter...but how do you keep your work desk so clean  ;D

Peterae

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #371 on: November 29, 2009, 04:57:02 PM »
Hi stprue
Simple i only built it last week :), rest assured it will be the last time i post a picture of it that clean  ;D

minde4000

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #372 on: November 29, 2009, 05:29:27 PM »
@All

As far as I understand Don Smith device is using quarterwave length receiver with a EXECT coil copy of receiver being "untuned" part of L2 wich act as VIRTUAL GROUND for first L2 part. If both L2 parts were tuned you would have a real dipole but since only one part tuned so its seems to be nothing else but as I have said quarterwave length receiver with virtual ground plane.

Quarter wavelength antennas must be grounded to work properly so basicaly such an inductor must be grounded to recreated its missing dipole part image in earths ground. So. We can use earth ground OR we can attach a "MIRROR" coil or "VIRTUAL"  ground to finish up a dipole.

Regards Minde

stprue

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #373 on: November 29, 2009, 06:42:40 PM »
@peter

Here is a recent vid I made of a air core TPU.  I'm not sure if you have seen it but it is related to this topic as well.  Let me know what you think!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XipjLmjCSNU

stprue

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #374 on: November 29, 2009, 06:45:12 PM »
@All

As far as I understand Don Smith device is using quarterwave length receiver with a EXECT coil copy of receiver being "untuned" part of L2 wich act as VIRTUAL GROUND for first L2 part. If both L2 parts were tuned you would have a real dipole but since only one part tuned so its seems to be nothing else but as I have said quarterwave length receiver with virtual ground plane.

Quarter wavelength antennas must be grounded to work properly so basicaly such an inductor must be grounded to recreated its missing dipole part image in earths ground. So. We can use earth ground OR we can attach a "MIRROR" coil or "VIRTUAL"  ground to finish up a dipole.

Regards Minde

Thank you for that description Minde, I actually understand this concept much better now!