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Author Topic: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts  (Read 309099 times)

Offline minde4000

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #495 on: November 17, 2011, 01:50:50 AM »
yah.. looks like asymetric transformer

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #496 on: November 17, 2011, 03:14:44 AM »
Hey Minde

Im not really looking at it as a transformer. To me its more like, a special situation.

I have found that they are used in power supplies, on the input lines, where each winding is used as a throughput to "reduce" noise to the source from the switching in the supply.

Im trying some different ideas.

Mags


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #497 on: January 17, 2012, 05:21:54 PM »
I've seen more than 10 times all the videos of Don Smith, including plans and books.
The question I've is I cannot determine where is connected the sparkgap. From the neon tube transformer I see 3 wires. The positive, the negative and other that is connected to the sparkgap.
The question is I don't know where or how, the spark is connected to the neon transformer.


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #498 on: January 17, 2012, 05:42:47 PM »
Without the schematic it is difficult. From my knowledge it is possibly to act as a lightning arrestor, to prevent damage to the NST. In that case it would be connected to earth. IE a real earth rod in the ground. :)


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #499 on: January 17, 2012, 06:25:17 PM »
It's a possibility connect that end to the ground. But if not, what is the other possibility?
I have never had a neon sign transformer at hand so I don't know how they work.
The next schematic is the thing I see in his devices.


I've been reading more information from other websites and I can read that he uses a ground rod. But Smith also says in a video that his generators are used too in airplanes in Japan. So... in a jet no ground connection is possible.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #500 on: January 17, 2012, 07:35:10 PM »
You can use a virtual ground. Tesla wrote in one publication that the negative terminal of a car battery was a good substitute. With cold electricity, the components condition over time. The earth sets up a standing wave which is always in perfect resonance with the device. Over time the energy increases. So the use in a plane is no clue I'm aftraid.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #501 on: January 17, 2012, 07:48:08 PM »
Well, it can makes sense. But the configuration is VERY unusual.


If anyone else knows any valuable information about the question. Post it.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #502 on: January 17, 2012, 08:21:05 PM »
I'm glad you posted this picture. If you have any other close ups I would appreciate it. If you look closely at the neon sign transformer (NST) you'll see the terminal you talk about on the outside. The NST puts out many thousands of volts, so the outside terminal can only be an earth ground for legal and safety reasons. So my initial understanding is correct.
Kapanadze uses a similar system in his akvarium (aquarium) video. When the device blows a transistor(?) towards the end of the video the spark gap goes berserk. It is there to save components in the event of component failure or overload.
Having said that, this is an overunity game, so Don Smith may have found another use, and we can never be certain until we've replicated. I also would welcome other suggestions.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #503 on: January 17, 2012, 08:40:39 PM »
I can see 2 terminals in the nst box. At left, small golden balls. At the left too, like a switch.
Are you refering to those connections?
I've a DVD were you can see the device with much more better details. But I cannot upload it because the DVD reader of my laptop doesn't read DVD because it's broken. But the video is not in the net yet.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #504 on: January 17, 2012, 09:59:14 PM »
I've seen more than 10 times all the videos of Don Smith, including plans and books.
The question I've is I cannot determine where is connected the sparkgap. From the neon tube transformer I see 3 wires. The positive, the negative and other that is connected to the sparkgap.
The question is I don't know where or how, the spark is connected to the neon transformer.

Hi Magnetos,

I modified your picture and drew a red arrow where the spark gap I strongly suspect is.  It is called encapsulated spark gap, filled with certain noble gas (maybe argon) and manufactured for different voltages where to fire at.  Patrick Kelly included it in his collections, see the last paragraph at the bottom of Page 83 and a picture of such an encapsulated spark gap on top of Page 84 of this PDF file:
http://www.rexresearch.com/smithdon/DonSmith.pdf 

rgds,  Gyula

Edit:  A schematic is included on Page 82.   ;)

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Offline minde4000

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #505 on: January 18, 2012, 12:40:40 AM »
Gentelman,
   That particular Bertonee NST was manifactured WITH a center ground tap - just like all bulky non swithing NSTs have(the big ones).
However appeareantly no other company is manifacturing switching center tapped NSTs for whatever the reason.. (??? makes me wonder why)
 NST ground was connected to Earth ground (right at NST terminal) and then to the primary LC tank ground via a spark gap arrestor. I have a switching HV traffo from amazing1 driven by h-bridge and center taps grounded. No lucky for me :) Primary LC has very high impedance to volts because LC is very capacitive (wich means will take amps but will resist volts) so I have no chance of getting my primary LC resonating from this NST because of severe impedance mismatch....
For exemple my NST has impedance of 10K ohms+ @ ~50Khz while its trying to feed a primary LC that has impedance of less than 10 ohm...    10000 ohm VS 10 ohm - impedance mismatch will not allow any energy transfer - I simply cannot make my NST draw more than 1 amp.. Then I took simple LC having impedance of approx 6000 ohms @ 50khz and sure enough -  NST will draw up to 4 amps - because there is efficient energy transfer to LC because of somewhat matched impedance) and by feeding 800 VDC I could get it to resonate up to 7000 volts p-p and cant allow any more because It would exceed my HV probe limits.
Just a short insight from my experience. Hope it helps.
Minde

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #506 on: January 18, 2012, 05:23:03 AM »
Good eve all...  putting my best foot forward I would suggest the looped red wire for L-1 is as suggested a virtual ground "type", Not founded as a node but as a center-tapped in essence ground. however (This may very well be Grounded by the plug though).  Not be belabor the point though, I see this as the direction of flow of the circuit.....
We are grounding one side of the circuit with through which we pulse the two capacitors via the HV diodes; "the hot side" Then feeding the L-1 red wire ????????    y the lightning arrester ou get the idea! :-\  shrinking ok back again? what was that?
Which in turn completes the loop. 
Draw this on paper just as it is in the pictures....!  This to me looks like an LC circuit as long as the frequency stays above 20Kz this should resonate if you get the numbers right.


I haven't built mine yet, this is how I see it though.


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #507 on: January 18, 2012, 03:21:22 PM »
@minde4000
I'm still waiting an answer for the message I sent you yesterday. I want to know the name of the company that builds the yellow capacitors. In the picture I can read Ctision or something similar. It's not enough clear.
About the NS Transformer, I've read some information about to prevent the use of classic models. In the pdf that gyulasun posted here (http://www.rexresearch.com/smithdon/DonSmith.pdf), if you read the end of page 83 and the beginning of the 84, you can see some recomendations about not using comercial NS transformers and the author also recommends to build your own one. This recommendation, and also your own one about the center ground tap implies that the best option is to build our transformer. In amazon or other online library anyone can find a series of books called "... for the evil genius". There are about 15 different books of that serie. In one of them there are schematics to build your own high voltage high frequency power source.


@h20commuter
As you say this is an LC circuit. Refering to H.Torres you can read and we know that "when the transformer is in resonance, the impedance is zero". So adjusting the numbers right, you'll have a LC circuit.
Where I've still doubt is in the 2 AC connections that are in the output of the NST. Each of those 2 wires has 1 diode. Then, those 2 wires becomes one  ??? ?
In the picture that I've attached you've some similarities with other non usual configurations coming from other circuits different to Don Smith's one.
Someone with more electrical experience maybe can obtain some ideas while viewing the circuits.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #508 on: January 18, 2012, 06:00:23 PM »
This is the driver circuit of the operation here is how I get it.  This is the part that starts the ball game off.
I have not yet built this circuit.
I simply see it as an inductance and capacitance circuit that is grounded causing a closed circuit that may resonate.
The capacitance is the tank that will set the speed of oscillation when the inductance is matched to this capacitance over 20 khz it will resonate at very low cost of consumption.
"No resistance"


Testing and discovery are the only ways to be sure..

Zane

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #509 on: January 18, 2012, 06:23:54 PM »
@h2ocommuter
Do you read what you type..  because I dont understand most of your posts... a little out there... and hows spark gap will affect oscillation speed? It could affect time at what LC will be charged by DC source before spark breakdown occur but not oscillation speed.... based on this I think you might need to read and learn more before you post  8)
@Magnethos
Custom electronics Inc. NY I believe. Great mica caps. Not cheap.
Minde
 
 

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