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Author Topic: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts  (Read 309100 times)

Offline minde4000

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #465 on: November 10, 2011, 05:04:21 AM »
I have tried both ways. Polarity reverses by 180 degree of course on one of them. No luck.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #466 on: November 10, 2011, 05:15:37 AM »
Hey Minde

Ok cool.  Maybe try higher input voltage.

Grumpy at OUR.com had told me once that the input needs to be higher than 2kv..  Maybe that is an issue.

Do you have a diagram of the circuit you used?

I read a pdf that had shown a Smith circuit, but the author of the pdf he thought the circuit wasnt correct("in his mind").  I also questioned where the spark gap was in the circuit. But would like to see what you used.

Any pics?  ;]

Mags


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #467 on: November 10, 2011, 05:17:38 AM »
NTesla,

Hey buddy. Nice to see you working with Don Smith device. I also have a complete system. I have managed to drive it with ~60khz 1.5-2KV sparks and have good earth grounding but I got nothing too. I did not even suceed in resonating primary due to severe impedance mismatch between HV power supply and primary tank LC. Could you post some pictures of your setup? You can find mine @ overunityresearch(dot)com under my bench. I think I need much lower impedance power supply... I also have 4 coils to choose from - 2 right hand and other 2 have left hand turns. I can make any combo out of them. Still got nothing so far.

Minde

Can you please provide a link on that web site - I can't find what you are talking about.  :)

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #468 on: November 10, 2011, 05:24:46 AM »
Hey Minde and NTesla

Your secondary, is it 2 coils connected in the middle, 1 wound clock wise and the other wound counter clockwise?

This is something some or even most any not recognize in some of the drawings or diagrams out there. And Im thinking it is important.  ;]

Mags

The first secondary coil I used is the one shown in the photos/video: Barker-Williamson 10" x 3" 40 turn tinned copper coil with 4 turns removed from the middle (http://www.bwantennas.com/coils/aduxlex.htm).


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #469 on: November 10, 2011, 05:47:16 AM »
Here is my initial setup:

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #470 on: November 10, 2011, 05:51:20 AM »
Hey NTesla

Here is a link to a doc I found(couldnt remember where I found it, and just did a search for the title, (The file is to large to post) that tends to show(a bit cryptically) 2 coils, CW and CCW. Start at page 4.

This was the first I have seen of an explanation for opposing wound coils on the same core. Im working on a toroid version(Gotoluc's self running coil), as it gives different ways to use as compared to Luc's version.

Maybe it will be helpful here.  ;]

Mags

Sorry, here is the link   http://www.scribd.com/doc/48568155/FREE-ENERGY-1

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #471 on: November 10, 2011, 05:52:57 AM »
Had to edit the above post to include the link I forgot.  ;]

Mags

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #471 on: November 10, 2011, 05:52:57 AM »
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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #472 on: November 10, 2011, 06:58:29 AM »
Hey NTesla

Here is a link to a doc I found(couldnt remember where I found it, and just did a search for the title, (The file is to large to post) that tends to show(a bit cryptically) 2 coils, CW and CCW. Start at page 4.

This was the first I have seen of an explanation for opposing wound coils on the same core. Im working on a toroid version(Gotoluc's self running coil), as it gives different ways to use as compared to Luc's version.

Maybe it will be helpful here.  ;]

Mags

Sorry, here is the link   http://www.scribd.com/doc/48568155/FREE-ENERGY-1

Nice! Thanks  :)

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #473 on: November 10, 2011, 04:09:15 PM »
NTesla,

The spark gap needs to be in series.  Don's schematic shows it in parallel,
but that is wrong.

Incidentally, there appears to be MORE problems with Don's schematic because
as far as I know NOBODY has ever made a working unit.

If anybody does have a working unit, PLEASE post the details.  Thank you.


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #474 on: November 10, 2011, 04:14:01 PM »
NTesla,

The spark gap needs to be in series.  Don's schematic shows it in parallel,
but that is wrong.

Incidentally, there appears to be MORE problems with Don's schematic because
as far as I know NOBODY has ever made a working unit.


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Come on man. You dont know that. How can you state it?...

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #474 on: November 10, 2011, 04:14:01 PM »
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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #475 on: November 10, 2011, 06:35:44 PM »
The spark gap needs to be in series.  Don's schematic shows it in parallel,
but that is wrong.
The schematics I have seen show a primary SG 'in series' because it is acting as a switch per a Tesla coil primary input.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #476 on: November 10, 2011, 06:37:36 PM »
In the doc above, I dont see the caps( laeft side near neon transformer)  that are shown in Dons pic above. I see the spark gap in the pic, a small enclosed capsule(forget the name at the moment) connected to the neon transformer.

Also in the pic, it does look like the sec coils are wound the same direction, cant tell for sure at this angle.

What I get from the doc file is that when the primary fires, the magnetic fields of each sec coil are inline, not opposing, but, if the sec coils were oppositely wound, and connected in the middle, each sec would have the same polarity charge at the far ends in reference to the middle where they are connected. This seems to be an unusual situation, no?

So what might be the interaction of electrical field (outside the coils, in the air) between the 2 coils in this situation. In the doc file, there seems to be some effect between the 2. 

I dunno yet. But looking into it.  ;]

You guys are the first I have known to try Dons setup.  Would love to see them.  ;]

Mags


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #477 on: November 10, 2011, 07:39:00 PM »
Sorry, here is the link   http://www.scribd.com/doc/48568155/FREE-ENERGY-1
Since unavailable otherwise, I've just paid for it (one time $5.00) and it's in my possession right now. Here I share it:
https://rapidshare.com/files/2349454651/52148599-kapanadze.pdf

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #478 on: November 11, 2011, 12:56:03 AM »
By reversing one of the coils winding direction sine wave goes:    positive-negative-positive    OR     negative-positive-negative.
Both coils in same direction sine wave goes:                               negative-zero(?)-positive     OR     positive-zero(?)-negative
I will make some more pics and post. Btw here is my bench link:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=67.0

Thanks guys for that link. Pretty interesting. Who made it up?

Minde



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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #479 on: November 11, 2011, 04:05:23 AM »
Here is my initial setup:

NT, well dang, looks like you went through a lot of trouble getting all that  on the table.  ;]  Looks great..    What diagram did you follow?  Seems there are a few out there.

What is the output of your neon transformer? Is it the same as Dons? 2 outs and a common ground( reference ) Man you got the big can caps and all.  Serious.  ;]

Minde,  I dont know who wrote it.  I found it on Emule I believe, then searched for the title and there it was again.

At least it may give us some other ideas to fiddle with if any of Dons diagrams dont add up. Hopefully it gives some things to understand.  Looks like a lot of work put into the doc.

My original doc is in black and white. The link has some color pics, so I know I didnt get it there. But all the same stuff.

Tesla used magnets in the spark gap to blow it out before anything came back through.  Unidirectional, like a diode. So maybe we dont have to use mags these days, since diodes are around.

Dons has diodes on the terminal strip with the rectangular caps. They may be correct in the schematics shown.
His neon transformer seems to be a dual output with a common ground, where the spark gap device is connected.

Is there any close ups of the terminal strip with caps and
diodes?

Mags



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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
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