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Author Topic: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts  (Read 304572 times)

Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2009, 05:59:04 PM »
Pfft dead on there,

You can't achieve overunity with your current knowledge.

I can tell you that the universe and the earth which is connected to it is already overunity and that there is an unbalance.

People here will never achieve overunity...first off i have seen god and believe in it and that religion and science is one...yet well religion which is the mimick of it...was invented by the devil yet worship the same god haha..and they fight.

The cause that created the universe which is zero point gives more out than in by nature and in the bible well with my correct one...god creates stuff out of nothing.

You can predict the future but it is bigger than words...most people here think they are a smelly human but really pfft..how unenlightened..i hope you guys understand that scientists do NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING...i can see the big picture it is overunity...and zero point which is the backbone of the universe...is of course the fastest energy in the universe which is instant or 0 seconds because it always speeds up.

You cannot create nor destory...alpha and omega...without beginning and without end...so what does that mean?

It means the universe basicly has existed forever already...at the point of when this came around when the universe was created...as far as i understand from god's wisdom...pfft..and since energy is time.

Has already existed forever...without beginning remember..thats how old the universe is and is overunity...planet earth is an asylum for lunatics.

This here proves overunity.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7957.0

Beyond human illusion..if you look at that file...and since EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE AND ON EARTH AND IS IN HARMONY EXPLAINS THE UNBALANCE FORCES OF THE UNIVERSE TO KEEP IT IN A PERPETUAL MOTION STATE...this picture when i look at is..is more in detail of why the universe gives more out than IN.

I do not trust human knowledge but then when i look at this and when this guy finds out..how things are created out of nothing just as what i read in the bible...will answer everything in physics yea..it all comes down to the neutral center..

The guy who wrote this has noticed an unbalanced force in the universe...this is the key to understanding the universe of overunity..it is all uttered through out the energy world..and when he says imperfect my defination is..is that is has a reason..and that energy it's self is actually perfect.


One step closer to understanding why the electron does not dissipate i suppose.

By the way...technology was given by god by enlightening people telepathically.

The reason why people get overunity regarding radiant energy and the like well look at that picture..this spiral system is hooked up the zero point naturally by god and why it gives more out than in...so if the universe would stop...and if it existed forever the only reason that it keeps on going is because the universe is overunity..and i don't believe in stupid smelly evolution anyways...science is proving it is aload of "%^* but then it comes down to religion...yea the earth is 6000 years old but i believe in jahtruth.co.uk science and religion in one harmony.

It seems science does not want to discover new things thank god for this guy...with technology we have today it will prove that this under unity bullshit is wrong..you got to have a sharp eye looking at this...that right there is overunity in action.

I find don smiths ambient energy to be kinda incorrect...it has to tap zero point for this overunity to be achieved.

I mean it is right in front of everyones faces here...ignorant scientists don't look at it...they rather be stuck in the 1700's...then rather question it...wha? nahhh the universe should of be kaput by now?

If it was not perpetual first handly this without beginning and without end well it is a wonder only god him self knows.

Everything is energy even your thoughts..nothing is random :)..happens for a reason..cause and effect is great detail...so yea if god knows where the atom goes in great perspective obviously he can predict the future perfectly.

The way i see this without beginning and without end is like this past - (without beginning - now forever - without end) - future... it is rather simplistic since i have studyed carefully god's wisdom but it will drive you mad :D because people need to REALLY TAKE A CLOSE LOOK and doubt man's knowledge.. i'd rather avoid it like the plague although it sees some parts of the bigger picture i like to keep a god's eye perspective of it.

According to Mellen the past present and future changes at the same time...but as far as i see it...you cannot change what has already been done..because of now really...this now is basicly without beginning and without end...and always will be..now do you see why this knowledge is too big for words :).

What this guy may discover is is that the universe is overunity and then be called a quack...well at least this guy may have discovered god this way :)..like as if somebody built it..
« Last Edit: August 21, 2009, 06:54:12 PM by lltfdaniel1 »

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Offline xenomorphlabs

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2009, 07:15:28 PM »
@lltfdaniel1:
Nice pdf ! Thanks for sharing.
The hard part is to translate that knowledge into circuit design


Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2009, 07:41:10 PM »
I think the left over energy could be centrifugal forces..from what i have studied.

You know the method of cancelling out stuff, and then you get scalar/zpe effect..well that is what this is about then you can go from there regarding circuit design..

I mean if you look at magnet motors and gravity devices...these forces are not balanced...it works around a neutral center.

This left over force is zero point..the cause that created everything.

Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2009, 08:03:45 PM »
It is a tad easier to see it in magnets thanks to howard Johnson who had a working pmm.

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/johnson.htm

The magnet it's self had uneven forces.

Regarding the 4 spins.


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2009, 12:14:32 AM »
Its all very nice Daniel....

But can you relate any of it to Don Smith, or have you posted on the wrong thread   ????  Can you relate any of these philosophical musing to a build?  Dont get me wrong - i love philosophy, and theoretical physics, but i want an OU machine, and thats why i'm here - to build one.  Leaving another OU.com thread link isnt helping me PROVE overunity, cos it isnt helping me make a machine which demonstrates overunity.  I need simple PRACTICAL instructions like diagrams, parts list, and a whole lot of help from my OU buddies, and thats just to get a joule thief to light 20 LEDs, or a 1cm spark from the flyback (thanks Pirate, Yucca et al.). 

Please dont be offended.  I know theory is important.  My favourite philosopher says "deeds deeds deeds...don't worry about thoughts....they will come sure enough, whether you will them or not!''

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2009, 12:14:32 AM »
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Offline Yucca

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2009, 02:13:30 AM »
Nice vids flathunter, 1664 is a nice brew ;) I didn´t get round to trying a PFT today, but I will do in the near future.

I picked up some more electrical terminal blocks from the hardware store so now I´ll wind my primary and set up my first Smith like circuit on a thin MDF board. Tuning for now will involve different numbers of parallel 2000pF caps and I will also make my primary be 8 turns and file small tap points onto each turn so I can try soldering the feed on different taps. This should give me quite a few frequency points to experiment with. I´ll be setting up a cap and small gap on the output and counting the fires in a given time. This will give me some relative idea about how well its tuned I hope.

Again I´m thinking the grounding resistor on the secondary coil ends is something that needs careful consideration, I think this might be a vital tuning point, we want to force nodes but we dont want those nodes to be zeros, hence the resistor instead of straight tied.

I think the key is to allow a fairly free swinging standing half wave, this will allow for it to oscillate at fundamental but also at any other frequency at the same time.

Imagine a ruler in free space oscillating at its half wave resonance, well if the ends are on elastic bands instead of anchored then we could also wobble it at much lower frequencies up and down at the same time that it vibrates at its half wave. Difficult to explain, but anyway, if we can get the secondary to generate a large EM field at its fundamental then it may reach out and couple with a large volume of space (like an active antenna).

Through this coupling it may then be able to extract energy from other much lower frequency sources available in that large volume of space like for example schumann resonance which is very feeble at 1picotesla but if you can interact with a sphere of space 10kM radius it maybe a significant power source?

I would really like to get hold of a good variable vacuum capacitor for easy fine tuning, preferably up to 1000pF 5kV, it looks like Russia is the place to buy these at good prices on ebay, next paycheck I may look at getting one.

xeno, I´ve been thinking about that polarised cap... Maybe it´s a diagram error, like he picked the wrong component from his component pallete. It spooks me too. ??? I think the voltage rating shouldn´t matter provided he set the gap to breakdown before max cap voltage is reached.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2009, 02:20:46 AM »
variable vacuum caps look so cool!

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Offline Peterae

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2009, 11:24:57 AM »
Hi Guys

Just got to wait for my order of diodes and caps to arrive now, 10-15 Days :(

Mean time i have just bought a grid dip meter, been meaning to get one for ages, should come in very handy on this build.

Peter

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2009, 11:36:13 AM »
Oh one other thing, anyone using Tv or Monitor line output transformers (LOPTX) maybe able to find the pinout of their transformer if you locate the FAT number printed on it, by cross referencing here

http://www.donberg.ie/catalogue/line_output_transformers/konig_line_output_transformers/page_1.html?perpage=1000

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2009, 01:12:58 PM »
xeno, I´ve been thinking about that polarised cap... Maybe it´s a diagram error, like he picked the wrong component from his component pallete. It spooks me too. ??? I think the voltage rating shouldn´t matter provided he set the gap to breakdown before max cap voltage is reached.

You have an excellent point with the gap breakdown there. That is the only explanation at least why he might not fry his caps by the sheer voltage level of the NST.
In the 4000 VDC caps device he talks about using lightning protectors as gaps. Not sure what breakdown they usually come with.
On the secondary side of the table device he uses a 10 kV cap across the center tap and the top side of the secondary, which also is rated way too low with a 1:10 winding ratio which will produce voltages between 20kV and 60kV.
The high voltage cables that connect the secondary to the caps are rated at 80kV breakdown, so he runs below 80kV obviously.
If the lightning protector gap is limiting the primary voltage on the cap to 2kV then the voltage across the secondary 10kV rated cap could be just 10kV.
But then the question arises why he used a 9kV output NST instead of a 2kV output one ?!

About the actual oscillation of the circuit, one has to assume that the AC component obviously does not harm the caps for some miraculous reason that we can´t explain yet.
When i first stumbled across that seeming contradiction i assumed that DC caps maybe won`t oscillate at all (together with an inductor) due to their strict polarisation.
However the literature states that they would and likely will get destroyed.
To create any significant RF in the circuit, it has to oscillate (and thus change polarity) somehow  ???

@Peterae: Nice dipmeter! I am sure it will come handy with this type of devices ;)

Keep it up!


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2009, 03:14:23 PM »
In the patent pending Diagram page 34 of the pdf, he specifies a spark gap of 0.0025 Inches, this converted to mm is 0.0635mm which given in air the breakdown voltage is 3000v/mm gives us a gap breakdown voltage of 190.5V

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2009, 03:52:18 PM »
Spark arresters can be found in master telephone sockets, here in the uk they are rated between 200 and 260v i think.



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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2009, 04:19:15 PM »
@peterae, I always wondered what those things in UK sockets telephone were, I thought they were snubber caps, now I know. The dip meter should definitely be handy for working on this stuff. I have been using online calcs to work out coil inductance and then looking at their performance using a sniffer probe on my scope to check resonance freqs and get a general feel for Q. The calcs have proved quite accurate at predicting the coils self resonance.

@all,
OK guys, I've just finished making my primary slipover coil, it's not as neat as the secondary because the 12AWG wire is very stiff to work with and I was using the seconday as a form so was winding and spacing by hand without a rigid form and spacers, see pics.

I first wound the 12AWG tightly round a glass jar 1cm less diameter than the secondary, then I pried open the spring gently so that it hugged the secondary ribs and then just spaced it up by eye.

I will try and build up a device later today if I can find some time.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2009, 04:25:49 PM »

People here will never achieve overunity...first off i have seen god
Then ask Him how its done, for God's sake.

...and get yourself one of those Bedini SG kits and prove yourself wrong.


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2009, 07:39:11 PM »
Just finished a first prototype. I will fire it up after midnight.

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