Good morning, I am new in this forum, (I have already posted in the "French Section"... I'am a Student Pianist and 23 years old.
I actually studying science by myself, I'am interested by solid state "Overunity Device" and "Free energy in general".
OK, I post here some theory to eventually helping some guys trying to replicate it...
I try here to demonstrate mathematicaly and scientifically the truth of the concept... I used some formula to do this.
I'am not a mathematician or a scientist this my personal interpretation of the concept...
The conclusion is this device have great potential to produce large OU !!!
I Hope helping you.
(sorry for my English, I speak French and live in France...)
Welcome to Overunity.com, always good to have new enthousiasts around here.
It's pretty unique to have a pianist around us that is interested in OU.
Allow me a few comments to your theory.
I have quickly red your calculations and it seems you take fixed permeability numbers into account.
Unfortunately this is a mistake that many people make when looking to this system.
Thane is skipping part of the actual mechanism in his patent description and therefore the example calculations in his patent are misleading. There is even a confirmation that his calculation examples are not according the measurements that are added in his patent.
It looks like he hides a part of his knowledge by simplifying the patent claims, or he is simply not aware.
Let me explain what has to be taken into account as well:
Permeability(mhu) = delta B/delta H
Good example of explanation can be found at Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_%28electromagnetism%29
If you look at the bottom of this Wiki page, there is an example of mhu versus B and H
Mind you that the BH curve used here is that of a 'virgin' core, but suits for the example to understand how mhu and B relate.
Now, take the typical BH curves of each type of metal used in this transformer.
Deriving permeabilty from these B-H curve you can find that depending on H (caused by the current through the coils), B varies non-linear and even saturates.
This means permeability of a core is a variable not a constant: mhu=f(H)=f(B).
An visual examples is given in the figure below.
So, the claimed overunity only occurs at particular current values.
Since sinus shaped input voltage is commonly used, only at (small) parts of these sinus period the condition is created where there is a difference in permeability that causes OU.
These particular situations are depending on the input current, as well as the output current occurring at the very same moment.
I am not saying OU is impossible with this setup, but it requires a very specific driving and loading mechanism to get the most out if this setup.
We may further discuss this if people are interested.
By the way, your English is well understood, so no excuses needed
It seems that you propose to use the same material for both cores.
In that case the actual model is a bit simpler fortunately, assuming the magnetic coupling is ideal:
Reluctance ratio is 1:10 -> 1 cm2
: (1 cm2
The ration is a bit less, due to the slight difference in flux path lengths. So, your number on the ratio is correct.
But there is still a difference in flux saturation that has to be taken into account, because both cores will have different B-H curves while having the same coils/currents applied.
The saturation effect is actually an interesting one.
When the 1 cm2
core is in an early state of saturation, the 9 cm2
core is still in a unsaturated state when the coil winding ratios are 1:1.
The reluctance of a non saturated core is lower than a saturated one.
So, at relative low currents, the reluctance ratio may exceed the 1:10 in this case under the given assumptions.
In practice it will be hard to implement, since effective transformers are made from laminated iron.
With laminated iron effective magnetic coupling is hard to achieve in the Z-plane however.