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Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Time Traveler Sightings
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2009, 11:51:52 PM »
But they would have to travel back in time to see us, yes?  If so, their motivations are a mystery as well.
Why would we be so interesting?  If the interfer with us, they risking changing their reality as well.
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if it is true that war broke out in heaven then it may have something to do with that, sometimes war can bring about desperation just like humans migrating in ancient times to avoid conflicts with tribes, emperors, kings and so forth.

if the Super Quantum Computer I assume they are using can solve for paradoxes they would have no problems interjecting with ancient mankind.

the question is are they here because they were forced here where it is safe or did they come here for other reasons. and when I say other reasons I mean governmental related.

including controlling the masses via this type of scenario. a trillion dollar brainwashing, as long as the world doesn't know about time travelers the more easy it is to swallow such a story fed to the Earthly populations.

there are so many probabilities here we could go on for decades talking about this subject.

the possiblities are so deep that they may do everything within their power to protect such a scenario or what I call a Skit.

Jerry ;)

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Re: Time Traveler Sightings
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2009, 01:10:50 AM »
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if it is true that war broke out in heaven then it may have something to do with that ...
That was what some New Age proponents have said.

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... , sometimes war can bring about desperation just like humans migrating in ancient times to avoid conflicts with tribes, emperors, kings and so forth. ...
There was a legend that the ancestors of the Scandinavians came to Sweden and Norway because they heard the Romans were going to invade their homeland in Western Siberia.  So, you might be correct in your statement.


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...the question is are they here because they were forced here where it is safe or did they come here for other reasons. ...
The magazine about Shaver said about the same thing.  Giants left Earth because the Sun was producing too much radiation for them to remain on Earth.


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the possibilities are so deep that they may do everything within their power to protect such a scenario or what I call a Skit.
Now you're talking.  'Skit' is also the Swedish word for "s**t"(defecation).  I agree.  Some worldwide politicians would do anything to stay in power.

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Re: Time Traveler Sightings
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2009, 04:21:42 PM »
EELRIJUE said:There was a book along the lines of Theospohy teachings(I read years ago, and not exactly that orginization, but rather similar), which indicated about the same thing.
WAIT!
I have it!  The Popul Wu of the Maya Indians has a passage where there was nothing but calm before The Beginning.  Then, a greatly powerful Being and another almost as powerful arrived from elsewhere to begin Creating everything we see.

Is this something like what you say?

BTW, I'm Native American and I understand the Popul Wu quite well, but it has to be using typical American sentence structure for me to read it.  That isn't the case with all translations.


--Lee

Don't ignore that book!
Cool man, my family has native in it...both Algonquin and Objibway. The Spouse is 1/2 native.

Yup, that's exactly how I see it...powerful beings...one of major intelligence...like a leader of the hierarchy and many other 'lesser' ones. They all came here and 'created' life as we know it...all the diversities and uniqueness that we have down here. Created quickly, rather than slowly, using high science of creation knowledge. Tree of Life knowledge...for the Tree of Life and energies it creates...namely the violet flame....an ozone/plasma effect, can create life at the speed of light. A time machine as well, in order to create things in haste. So time travel is in no doubt, real, and used by such authority of creators.

The same knowledge left in the pyramids of Giza.


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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2009, 04:40:18 PM »
EELRIJUE said:
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Don't ignore that book!
Cool man, my family has native in it...both Algonquin and Objibway. The Spouse is 1/2 native.
I have tribes from those subraces, plus subraces Iroquois and Muskogian.  We're Related.

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Yup, that's exactly how I see it...powerful beings...one of major intelligence...like a leader of the hierarchy and many other 'lesser' ones. They all came here and 'created' life as we know it...all the diversities and uniqueness that we have down here. Created quickly, rather than slowly, using high science of creation knowledge. ... A time machine as well, in order to create things in haste. So time travel is in no doubt, real, and used by such authority of creators. ...
Right.  That implies(?) time travel, advanced technology and spaceships(?)  I'm speculating, but with logic, I think.

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Tree of Life knowledge...for the Tree of Life and energies it creates...namely the violet flame....an ozone/plasma effect, can create life at the speed of light.
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Well, the Popul Wu indicates these superbeings were demanding enough to require loyalty by the privilege of creating the created ones.  They wanted to be supported by those they created.  Really.  Talk about arrogance!  Couldn't they care for themselves?  Were they lazy?

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The same knowledge left in the pyramids of Giza.
Right.  The Muskogians and the Mayans(or their ancestors(?)) were pyramid builders.  This goes on all over the world.  Thor Heyerdahl knew this.

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Re: Time Traveler Sightings
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2009, 03:53:29 AM »
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Right.  That implies(?) time travel, advanced technology and spaceships(?)  I'm speculating, but with logic, I think.
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Yes. It sure does.
God can create a race of people from slow evolutionary processes, by waiting on the universe to make mankind and this is really slow...so someone with time travel capability must have done it in such a short time frame for us.
The only way to biologically create a life form in no time at all, is to have control over time.
So a creator of any life form, could plant the seed of life in a container or use an already established life form, then bring the container into a 'time machine' and evolve it forward right in front of him or her. Of course, we are talking greatly advanced know-how to do this.

I could only guess that they had done this for us and likewise, any life forms related and adjacent to us. They used similar techniques. Control over a timeless plasma flow, in which would force evolution nearly at the speed of light or at least saying it was very fast...the control over evolving a living thing.

Time machine knowledge would be required. You can not create something, such as a life form, and have it already sentient and perfect. The life form would be base matter and primordial or already evolved to a degree and therefore you push it forward...easy...and then evolved forward using a time machine...making the process 'somewhat' easier. Then, afterward they get a multitude of life forms based on stimulus...and conditions while under accelerated evolution. Mankind and a mouse are related...and perhaps to a  fruit fly...so you can see that our DNA is important.

Impossible? to evolve something forward using a time machine? No. I don't think so. You have to know what you are doing..........

Space ships = advanced physics
Time machine = advanced physics
Space ship = time machine = related sciences, advanced physics
Space ship = time machine = evolution machine = related physics, advanced physics.

Star of David = blue print for advanced physics = space ship
                  = blue print for space ship which can time travel
                 

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Re: Time Traveler Sightings
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Re: Time Traveler Sightings
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2009, 04:12:36 AM »
@EELRIJUE,
I agree with a lot of what you said in Reply #35.  It's just that unless someone comes along and *extends* one or more of Einstein's Relativity theories, by whatever means, all this will remain theoretical in practice.  I don't have the math background to figure it out.  Electronics is something I've got experience in.

But, let's keep bouncing ideas off each other.  Something might click in either of our heads along the way.

--Lee

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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2009, 04:30:50 AM »
@EELRIJUE,
I agree with a lot of what you said in Reply #35.  It's just that unless someone comes along and *extends* one or more of Einstein's Relativity theories, by whatever means, all this will remain theoretical in practice.  I don't have the math background to figure it out.  Electronics is something I've got experience in.

But, let's keep bouncing ideas off each other.  Something might click in either of our heads along the way.

--Lee

Not going to touch Einstein, sorry Lee.

I don't trust his works completely and I don't submit to his ideals as being the only truth. There are things beyond Einstein, greatly so. And there is no lie in that.
If you guys stick to Einstein protocol, you'll probably get lost, because you are using only him and his ideals as the ONLY road map.

You have to look at much wider spectrum before forging ahead. Outside of Einstein....

Electronics? I have a degree in that as well...but it's underneath me for the while.

Quantum/Zero Point Energy field understanding is the most important...and Einstein was out of his league here.
He admitted to it.
Time machines and space craft (anti-gravity) have only one calling and it comes from the vacuum/ZPE field interactions.
Einstein is again, out of his league....

Free energy devices...Einstein, again, out of his league.

I am finished talking here, but if something requiring my intervention comes up, I would be happy to contribute.

All the Best,
Matt

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Re: Time Traveler Sightings
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2009, 02:11:08 AM »
Math is used to determine possibilities and to have a formula for how it was done, but math isn't needed to know how it works and how to build a time machine. math only makes the time machine better. more accurate so to say.

lets just say math is a measurement. Hands on is different. for instance I can just look at a socket or a nut or bolt and tell you what size it is without a measurement tool because I have it memorized photographically.

Hey EEL, are you sure your not one of my foreseeable time crew? you sound so much like me, lol

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« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2009, 02:20:58 AM »
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...are you sure your not one of my foreseeable time crew? ...
Hey Jerry,
Speaking of captain and crew, you do know how to navigate through time without getting lost or ending up in, say, an earthquake or volcanic eruption?

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« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2009, 06:44:56 AM »
Hi Big M.

I forwarned about this some 10 years ago.

if everyone was given a time machine then time would run a muck, virtual particles are particles out of time phase.  when you travel time you are out of phase as a standard particle.

Jerry ;)

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« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2009, 06:55:58 AM »
rewards are given by how much you pay attention. it does not matter how much you know.

Jerry

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« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2009, 05:26:34 PM »
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if everyone was given a time machine then time would run a muck, virtual particles are particles out of time phase.  when you travel time you are out of phase as a standard particle.
Hey Jerry,

That was the point I was getting at.  There must be some way to 1) Control what is being done at any one time, and, 2) Not end up in the Earth's core or in a WWII battle in the South Seas.


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« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2009, 07:00:36 PM »
onthecuttingedge2005 said:Hey Jerry,

That was the point I was getting at.  There must be some way to 1) Control what is being done at any one time, and, 2) Not end up in the Earth's core or in a WWII battle in the South Seas.

it is quite easy if you have a spaceship. you have to use the Lotus LASER to monitor your distance from Earth at all times as you follow the Earth Back into time. the Laser would be beamed at low energy so it doesn't start fires on Earth.

the only safe way is to do it from space. if you travel a thousand years into the past the Solar System will be a Thousand years in its previous direction so it is best to just follow either the Earth or follow the sun from a distance at some known safe orbit.

it is crucial that Star Chart software are brought along to give you a map of where things will be at given times, I do have Starry Night Astronomy software that can help with astrological positions and Stars, Planets, Moons.

with the software I can put in a date and it will tell me how the system will be arranged as far back as 10,000 years ago. so any date before that would be risking not knowing the solar systems state and would be taking a chance. sort of flying at your own risk so to say unless the software can be made to go back billions of years and that would do the trick.

10 days travel would bring you back to around 10,000 years ago from what I understand but I can't go into details on it just yet. a thousand days travel would take you back 1 million years into the past. I don't quite understand some things yet but I know how to polarize time but it will not be safe unless I/we have a space ship.

Jerry ;)


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« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2009, 11:25:17 PM »
Hey Jerry,
This conversation is getting interesting.  You remind my of my previous business associates.  They had ideas I had to ask for clarification on a few times.
A couple of points?

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it is quite easy if you have a spaceship. you have to use the Lotus LASER to monitor your distance from Earth at all times as you follow the Earth Back into time.
The laser light travels at the speed of light as well.  Is this a problem in any way?  Oh, also, can you use tachyons?  They go faster than light.  Actually, they're theoretically nonexistent to science.

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... the Laser would be beamed at low energy so it doesn't start fires on Earth. ...
Light intensity varies with the square of the distance.  Twice the distance means 1/4 the light shining at a given distance.  100 times the distance is 10,000th the brightness in intensity.  Unless you have a powerful laser or a new technology, there won't be fires on Earth.

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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2009, 02:28:11 AM »
Hi Big M.

I already know how to polarize time but I can't discuss it until the appointed time, it doesn't require traveling faster than light, the only velocity I need is to follow the Earth backwards through time, it will be no where near light speed either.

the first age was different than the second age or loop, the first had a different finacial burden, the second burden does not.

I wish I could tell you more but not at the moment till I figure out who is who.
Jerry ;)

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