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Author Topic: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments  (Read 172416 times)

Offline altrez

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2009, 06:31:29 PM »
Copper and zinc are .8 in a glass, if I recall, so you are fine there. I got 1.03 last night when I tool those shots.
I do not see the voltage on the scope, though. I use my dmm for that.

First use the left key until you see a line.
The scope needs to be set for a very small voltage... so use the up key until you see a wiggle on the line.
Then you are in the range.
Keep going up until you see some good action.
It is usually in the 50mv /div range.

Once there go to the right. This takes you to a higher and higher frequency between the markers.

Do you know about the markers?

jeanna

Thank you :) Yes I do you showed me the markers. I will take those tests soon :)

Thanks!

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2009, 01:48:56 AM »
@All,
I want to thank everyone for their posting so far, everyone is doing very well here, the information is excellent, already there is another person who PM me and wants the http address so I will do this shortly. :D

But first I have to make a hurried trip away for a few hours, to visit a friend out in the sticks.
Got a phone call for help last night, so he is getting a free B&S engine, a farmer down on his luck, hope he can put it to good usage.

I will catch up here when I return.

jim


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2009, 04:11:10 AM »
Here are some scope shots of my earth battery.  These were taken today, 07-15-09 @ 8:55 cst.  Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky, USA
36 degrees, 56 minutes, 15 seconds North Latitude
86 degrees, 26 minutes, 53 seconds West Longitude

Bill

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2009, 04:13:02 AM »
Do you do all of your testing at night to eliminate the fact that photons penetrate deep beneath the earths surface?

If not this is where I would strictly do testing on dark nights yes a bit difficult but it eliminates the fact that it may not be a slight solar related reaction.

That is my thoughts worthless I know and most likely already said the earth battery is interesting but at the same time a tough thing to make happen in useful quantities.

Thank You for sharing and testing.


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2009, 04:27:55 AM »
Now this is what I got when I tried to isolate what I saw as 3 different waves on the same pattern.  I just slowed down the sec/div. and increased the volts/div. and got this!!  It took a lot of fine tuning and tweaking but this waveform froze perfectly and remained very solid and steady.


07-15-09 @ 8:55 cst. 
Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky, USA
 36 degrees, 56 minutes, 15 seconds North Latitude
 86 degrees, 26 minutes, 53 seconds West Longitude
 
 Bill

Infringer:

You call 5kw not useful?  I can put that to good use I assure you.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2009, 06:11:35 AM »
NICE BILL,

I think this has a familiar look to it, doesn't it?
Did you make a note of how many KHz? or MHz you were seeing in one wave?
I know one wave is tricky, but I see 2.4 or 2.5 MHz pretty regularly.

My earth battery must have run down!  ;D my dmm said 0.005v so I packed it up for the day. this happens sometimes. I dunno.

Great stuff, Bill.

... so, did you hang a wire? or did you take the scope outside? just curious.

jeanna

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2009, 06:21:23 AM »

You call 5kw not useful?  I can put that to good use I assure you.

5kW from an earth battery?  Where? How? Maybe I missed something.


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2009, 06:36:14 AM »
5kW from an earth battery?  Where? How? Maybe I missed something.

yeah you missed the part where he was full of #%*^.....

earth batteries rarely produce over 2volts.
so, you mean to tell me hes getting 2500+ amps of current from 2 pieces of metal in the ground??  im not buying that....


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2009, 06:39:33 AM »
5kW from an earth battery?  Where? How? Maybe I missed something.

Check out my Kapandze topic.  He was originally getting 5kW but I believe he is up to over 100.  Earth battery, Joule thief and Tesla.

Thanks Jeanna!  I actually had 3 waves wound together and I was able to pick out and stabilize one (maybe 2) and those are the second 2 pictures.  I made a video which will be on youtube and I will post a link here.  I did not check the freq. but I can do that. (I forgot)  I just ran an extension cord outside (Thanks Jim) and matched up the polarity form my EB to the scope which was still inside.  Heavy thunder and lightning here which got really bad about 10 minutes after my tests so I took everything down.

Bill

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2009, 06:46:28 AM »
yeah you missed the part where he was full of #%*^.....

earth batteries rarely produce over 2volts.
so, you mean to tell me hes getting 2500+ amps of current from 2 pieces of metal in the ground??  im not buying that....

Hey smart guy, read the other topic and then tell me again what you think, ok?  I never said I was getting that..he was speaking of useful power and the Russian, and now several others, are getting just that.  He uses a water pipe and a buried car radiator which ARE two pieces of metal stuck in the ground.

Here is a link:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.0



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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2009, 08:36:36 AM »
@ Litfdaniel1

Welcome to this brand spanking new forum, and thank you for you suggestions. :D

My idea for this datalogging would be for someone to program a program to make sure that the computer sends data from the sound card and then to the online database each second prehaps or 5 minutes or whatever, along with the weather conditions and the date to get a better picture and prehaps earthquake data which can also be sought online but i feel earthquake data is not live.

weather.co.uk or weather.com for example

But you got to leave your pc on all day and night, and since i know about bui
lding computers..if you really want a energy saving computer go for a atom based desktop or a pc with a intel e5200 or e7200 or higher processer, i recommend the e5200 and e7200 or higher because it gets work done faster since it has more power and saves electric.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-efficiency,2069-11.html

I had not thought of including the local conditions, this is an excellent suggestion, also haveing a 24hr access to a database is good for those who are researching this.
Maby a real time waveform display setup, showing different places so they could be compared.

I wouldn't have the foggiest on setting up a website to handle this, it would have to be done when ever some kind programmer could make the software first.

But lets start first slow and build up gradually.

The hardest would be the data logger.


jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2009, 08:53:07 AM »
great ideas!

if someone more familiar would give a list of the things you want to keep track of, i can make a db for you all, with 24 hour web access. if the software exports a csv or otherwise delimited file. i can also whip up a script to allow that file to be uploaded into the db to save on some manual data entry.

as llftdaniel1 noted, an energy efficient pc is nice to have for long term logging. i use my good ol' dell axim.

edit: i use this on my dell axim, but they make a pc version too, maybe this would work? 8x8 parameter data logger included. iirc the pc sound card limits the range to 48kHz though. 21 day free trial. http://www.virtins.com/
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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2009, 09:03:57 AM »
@ IotaYodi,

Thankyou for your input, and welcome to the new forum.

You can buy a dc voltage only (0-30) data logger for less than a $100. For both Voltage and current they get pricey.
http://www.microdaq.com/lascar/usb/el-usb-3.php

I have taken a look at this dc voltage logger, and I see it can log from 0-30volts, this would be very good for anyone who just wanted to keep track of the voltage from the earth battery.

I think it would not be quite suitable for recording waveforms, the way the electrical activerty occurs as it flows through the earth.
Mabe a cro scope usb would be the way for some of us, hmmm this is all new ground for me.

Thankyou for your suggestion though, it is a pprecieated.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2009, 09:15:53 AM »
@Infringer
Thankyou for your input here and welcome.

Do you do all of your testing at night to eliminate the fact that photons penetrate deep beneath the earths surface?

If not this is where I would strictly do testing on dark nights yes a bit difficult but it eliminates the fact that it may not be a slight solar related reaction.

That is my thoughts worthless I know and most likely already said the earth battery is interesting but at the same time a tough thing to make happen in useful quantities.

Thank You for sharing and testing.

I have suspected photons would be an influence to readings, but would it be strong or slight? I don't really know, this why I am asking.

Thanks

jim




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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2009, 09:21:42 AM »
@Bill,
Wow, what have you there on your scope?

Now this is what I got when I tried to isolate what I saw as 3 different waves on the same pattern.  I just slowed down the sec/div. and increased the volts/div. and got this!!  It took a lot of fine tuning and tweaking but this waveform froze perfectly and remained very solid and steady.


07-15-09 @ 8:55 cst. 
Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky, USA
 36 degrees, 56 minutes, 15 seconds North Latitude
 86 degrees, 26 minutes, 53 seconds West Longitude
 
 Bill

Infringer:

You call 5kw not useful?  I can put that to good use I assure you.

I havent seen anything like those readings, just take a look at those spikes there, no wonder you are managing to charge those SC of yours.
This is exciting stuff.

Keep a record of those settings somewhere and see if you can replicate them, say in a week.

Good work Bill.

jim   

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
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