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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21990 on: November 12, 2015, 09:20:41 PM »
Wesley


Read my story  ;D 
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I told them and Arunas told them Nobody gives patents for devices that "violates laws of  thermodynamics"
You are wrong.  :P

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21991 on: November 21, 2015, 09:35:25 PM »

"they did rally make it."



 After  Reuters Genepax Hydrogen car   scandal. I know personally one of key figures from that  2009-2010 company  .......... Today there is a news
  So let me start :
From the  very first time Genapax  was screwed and  CEO with few  big guys  run  to  Taiwan India and Hong Kong
  The car on HHO that was presented at that time  was proved as Hoax
 Big manufacturers  eg Toyota lost invested money in Genepax
 The man who was working there lost his  job and  I was lucky to meet  with him many times
 in person
  years past by
  and now.
 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34647343
 this
  Watch BBC


they talking  about H2 not HHO
However  the are successors ( fmr investors in Genepax)




  Wesley

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21992 on: November 22, 2015, 11:58:24 AM »
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Tariel Kapanadze "paid" to mr Turk 50%  from  future profit  from his invention.
Mr Turk is brilliant Turkish  patent attorney who made so good  international patent application that no-one has an even slide chance after that  to patent anything that is even close to Tariel  patent application. However patent was never issued  -the application is valid for ever.

I have read and reread very carefully the patent but could not find anything that would inspire in me an idea of operation, also because considering that the patent was written by Turk and Kapanadze  certainly not to reveal his secret then the patent there is definitely nothing that could help an eventual reply. :'(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21993 on: November 26, 2015, 06:44:32 PM »
I have read and reread very carefully the patent but could not find anything that would inspire in me an idea of operation, also because considering that the patent was written by Turk and Kapanadze  certainly not to reveal his secret then the patent there is definitely nothing that could help an eventual reply. :'(

leo48
simple answer:
 it is not important how clear to you is Tariel  patent, but how  large area  for any future  art ,is forbidden as it falls into the descriptions of PATENT CLAIMS.
Any patent application in the future must first prove disconnection or lack of connection, with  patent application rights  of Tariel claims.
 Than, it will be conformed as, eligible   for  further processing.
It is not important  that Tariel application was denied, Tariel claims are still in motion as  claims specify  nature of processes he  reserves rights to.


For simple language it would be:
 - If anyone  present  device and it is  proven  to work as in  his patent application, than automatically Tariel  Kapanadze denial must be reexamined.
 So your money , your effort will work for Tariel Kapanadze benefit . Or Tariel successors.


If than it is found that The same claims as you have in your patent application have been showing  that priority of art belong to  Tariel.
 In such magnitude of importance  Tariel or Tariel family  will have "billion dollars" court proceeding   that   is going to cost  Tariel nothing.
Lawyers will pay to Tariel for   the chance to be his lawyer.




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21994 on: November 26, 2015, 09:24:59 PM »
it is funny Wesley


If I find an old patent describing a  box of any shape , giving more electric power at output then put into it on input , all other patents including Tariel ones are void ,right ? ;-)
Case closed.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21995 on: November 26, 2015, 10:23:30 PM »
it is funny Wesley


If I find an old patent describing a  box of any shape , giving more electric power at output then put into it on input , all other patents including Tariel ones are void ,right ? ;-)
Case closed.
Unfortunately it is very much possible, everything  depends from how important is this invention to lawyers .
 




Example: As long as they will be able to prove that Tariel patent application covers  subject  with  filing date earlier than  you.
You might consider yourself  "good man" who made successors of Tariel Kapanadze   finally getting the patent that was never given  to Tariel.


or:  reverse Marconi/Tesla case


The very much significant case  was revoking Patent by american government, from  Marconi  ( the noble price   nominee)  to Tesla  who was dead  man, already  at this time.
read history my friend


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21996 on: November 27, 2015, 08:44:58 AM »

Excuse me but I knew I patents expire after 18 years ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21997 on: November 27, 2015, 12:48:11 PM »
Extending patents...


 
The patent holder may propose alternative sets of claims during prosecution before the Patent Office and can reformulate its claims during invalidity proceedings directly before the court.
The reformulated set of claims must remain within the limits of the content of the patent application as initially filed and cannot extend protection conferred by the patent as granted.
The request for reformulation may be filed during invalidity proceedings only before the court and may not be submitted directly to the court-appointed expert, who subsequently may be consulted by the court at its discretion.
Technically the request for reformulation may be filed at "any stage of the proceedings", although in practical terms the request must be made before the hearing to present final arguments, in order to permit the court to consider ordering additional technical expertise. However, the court has the discretion to evaluate any “unfair” behaviour by the parties when assigning costs.
Even if invalidity proceedings were started before the new text of Article 79 came into force, the patent holder can still file reformulated claims.
One can re-Formulate the patent, however it is very hard if it is a “machine” as it is not the same for big Pharma..
 
Patent expiration is a not a patent ending 20 year life …It goes on  and on..
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21998 on: November 29, 2015, 11:12:14 PM »
 Wesley
I hope you don't think Tariel's patent is real,its a piece of trash,worthless.
Too many people believe that Tesla was a god in Tariel's area of the world,hes device
 has nothing to do with Tesla's inventions.Heres a question that should be asked but is not
from what I understand Tariel broke an agreement with the Turk company TMZ.Heres the problem,you don't see devices coming from turkey,this happened in 2008 I believe .
I believe he some how  sabotaged the 3 devices so they won't work before he left,2 big devices and one small one ,how is a mystery.
Aking21 told me that theres a component(the active component) that Tariel makes himself without it the device will not work,its most-likely in the metal boxes the other parts
were most-likely made by the company, the Turk engineers would have tried to reverse engineer the
devices,they didn't or couldn't.A NDA would not have stopped the company from making and selling Tariel's device with or without him.Tariel
is a deceitful(a flower of humanity) person,that has no concept of what is any truth,so what he says can not be trusted at all.People in here
forget every device he has made operates on 50HZ not high frequencies
every device he has made is different from each other to create confusion,along with its a Tesla invention.
What is your opinion on the Turkey devices.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #21999 on: November 30, 2015, 07:50:11 AM »
Wesley
I hope you don't think Tariel's patent is real,its a piece of trash,worthless.
It is not important what I believe at. It is important to know that any patent application in this area must fallow patent search  and as it is not much to search for
 Tariel patent application will come first . Patent preparer will first  look at patent claims , to estimate how much of a chance  he has to fight with Patent Office Examiner. It means nothing, that Tariel  application was  denied . ( if you have perfectly working device, You’re probably wondering why Tariel patent  then is being reexamined)
The answer is simple . In my standards that person/or you,  - is as filthy as Tariel was.
In Patent office standards  you have  full rights to protect your intellectual property.
So is Tariel, and he was first despite the fact what kind of garbage he put into his  patent application.
So there is  enough for him or  any member of his family, or any authorized  successor to present that indeed Tariel art is  working as  desired.
Application can  have as little as piece of  "scratched paper"  with few lines on it, and good claims written  to  prove  its priority over your art.
What is important is  post office stamp. ( filing date)
Too many people believe that Tesla was a god in Tariel's area of the world,hes device
 has nothing to do with Tesla's inventions.
Not important.
People tend to throw Tesla name to  increase "importance" of their note, speech or any  other spectacle  is important to them, as they want the most of  crowd attention.


Heres a question that should be asked but is not
from what I understand Tariel broke an agreement with the Turk company TMZ.Heres the problem,you don't see devices coming from turkey,this happened in 2008 I believe
TMZ have met with Tariel.
("supposedly"  hehehe)  they have met Minister of Finance who was present in  show ( the house in Turkey near cost of Black Sea)~2003
("supposedly"  hehehe)   after that 2.5 millions was  asigned to TMZ operated with 3 former  high rank military officials holding the highest ranks.
("supposedly"  hehehe) the founds was "taken"  weekly in small portions in cash.
("supposedly"  hehehe) some of this money where given  to our hero and most of it have been given to be guarded by his close family  member.
("supposedly"  hehehe) our hero "go wild",  liquors   females "and plenty of friends"
("supposedly"  hehehe) his family member run with the money.
("supposedly"  hehehe)  The money given to TMZ from ministry of Finance in end of  2004  ended in 2008
Patent application was started by TMZ. Turk  was preparer of international patent application.
In 2008 there was no more TMZ. Tariel took the opportunity to  deal with Turk.
Turk is one of the best patent attorneys  in the country.
Turk gave him very straight deal.  50% of future profit belongs to him.
It is unknown to me if there was 51% or 50% and that is important.
If business contract was signed than that 1% extra makes  Turk "the God" he is  the decision maker not TK.


I believe he some how  sabotaged the 3 devices so they won't work before he left,2 big devices and one small one ,how is a mystery.

That is correct to the point that Tariel added plenty of junk to his device
But that also says  about him being brilliant as  he was able to create different  concepts.


There was a story  of few retired Russian scientists who vanished   in some  mysterious  way in one day ( end of 80ts) being is contact with our  hero.
( I already say to much)
You guys are no way to appreciate me telling you "some of the stories"
You might be, just random  possibly selfish, dirty,  crowd  with no sorry, and no   moral values in this area - humanly universal.
You might be also made from some of elements working for entities and interested agencies.
You might be just cheap, souls easy corrupted by   anyone who gives you  few bucks.
If there is  a chance you would jump over the heads of others  like animals. Associating them-self  with  other stupid, uneducated creatures  ready to do any possible crime you tell them to do.
 
But I believe that between you as a crowd - there are valuable people who will never sell themselves, who despite any temptation will represent humanity for humanity as one.


And that is the group of people -to whom I'm talking and  bringing you close to
understand that TK device is real.
By that  Akula device might be real and  Ruslan device might be real.
I did not see their device so I can not conform it but it is very much   acting  as TK  electrostatic concept.




Aking21 told me that theres a component(the active component) that Tariel makes himself without it the device will not work,its most-likely in the metal boxes the other parts
were most-likely made by the company, the Turk engineers would have tried to reverse engineer the
devices,they didn't or couldn't.A NDA would not have stopped the company from making and selling Tariel's device with or without him.Tariel
is a deceitful(a flower of humanity) person,that has no concept of what is any truth,so what he says can not be trusted at all.People in here
forget every device he has made operates on 50HZ not high frequencies
every device he has made is different from each other to create confusion,along with its a Tesla invention.
What is your opinion on the Turkey devices.


There is the guy who knows precisely how  TK device  works.
I could find the guy. I know the guy. I have met the guy.
He will stay "shut up" till TK is alive.


and yes There is something   special that makes TK device work.


Wesley

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22000 on: November 30, 2015, 09:40:42 AM »
Westley
Its been almost 8 years since the patent application by Tariel and the Turk
no manufactured devices have rolled out of Turkey or anywhere else.
In 2012 Tariel made the aquarium 2 device for aking21's crew in Georgia,Tariel obviously didn't care
about hes patent.Tariel's device is not a high tech device but a very low tech device
refined by him over a long period of time.The device is an accidental discovery,by tinkering with a
a component available only in hes area of the world ,he I believe does not know how it works.
 but does know how to build it exactly.There is no question Tariel is as brilliant,as he is a very deceitful person.
You can not patent a simple low tech device with out everybody stealing it.
There are plenty of thieves and pirates here, on overunity.com,a huge amount on rev green
pretending to be skeptics,a few on overunity research.As for anyone else knowing how to build the device
I think only he knows how to build hes devices,and will never give up that secret.
I do agree that the patent application could give Tariel leverage in case someone else  figured out hes device.
I don't think anyone can make dine on this, if its simple to make and cheap to make,he should have simply open sourced it.
Hes device could either radically change the world or destroy it.
Greed plays such a big part,Tariel most likely thinks he will make a billion dollars on hes device,he won't nor will
anyone else,too many thieves and pirates,better to give it to the world(humanity).
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22001 on: November 30, 2015, 02:48:48 PM »

It is unfortunate that a discovery of this value is destined to die like this  :'(

Leo48

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22002 on: November 30, 2015, 05:17:49 PM »

 I have made nice characteristic and psychological profile of the region and I have lost it while working on it.
So I keep it short as   many people out there  can not even read what I wrote till the end of it.
It is unfortunate how many opportunists are out there, not willing to  fallow, analyze, but simply "grab and use"
The more primitive element he/she is, the more primitive  the crowd become.
Crowd leads , and its leaders  forms a mob and set an uproar;
So the problem  I have is with  people voluntary but valuable contribution directed to uniform and universal  gain.





Certain futures describing humanity- gain can only be seen and appreciated if it is not equally distributed.
Explanation:
-Equal distribution of the gain  makes no distinction to members of the crowd
-Crowd appreciate  the very short moment " when something is given " - only.
-Crowd protests when "given", is  taken away, or restricted, or requested to  be paid  for.
-World of "Rich and Powerful" seems to be the most withholding social platforms  over the ages. 
-World of "happy people" is the world of utopia, as human brain evolution,  bases on humans who are pushed to work.
-If I Wesley or any one else , makes Free Energy accessible and free on equal basis to humanity I will make more damage that  it will be total  benefit , to humanity.
-Human-being  when not pushed to work, will not work.
The very much advertised image of wealth is human-being with plenty of money,  on the beach with girls around and food with drinks served by those who are less fortunate in life.
So now we have very next day , and by some "magic of FE", lets   lets make everyone  that  comfortable?
Who is going to serve food and drinks? https://youtu.be/l-Cvm_0XEjg?t=65
GOT IT?

comfort makes humans to go down back to  stone age :
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I'm rich, I do not need to know how refrigerator works, I pay for it.
So who is going to build refrigerators or work  to develop robots  that assembles  refrigerators
GOT IT?






So I repeat it  one more time:
If I Wesley or any one else , makes Free Energy accessible and free on equal basis to humanity I will make more damage that it will be for benefit to humanity.
And yet I'm willing to do so, for temporary stage  of better standard of life of humanity as one.
what will be next?
- overpopulation  mostly caused by low life, low perception, low values and no contribution  crowd multiplying their number of flat but happy brains by millions.ten children?- no problem,    life is easy. And God will bless us.(that primitive crowd leads , and its leaders  forms a mob and set an uproar;)
in the few years from now, earth is no longer able to feed them all.


Wesley





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WestleyIts been almost 8 years since the patent application by Tariel and the Turk no manufactured devices have rolled out of Turkey or anywhere else.
that is correct -think about the people who  saw or have copy of it as "idiots."
and these who are not, they know that touching Tariel is  opening Pandoras box.
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Let him be alive and than  we going to deal with the problem.



In 2012 Tariel made the aquarium 2 device for aking21's crew in Georgia,Tariel obviously didn't care about hes patent.
"no money, no honey" - Tariel finally  understood what I told him once.
Nobody is going to  give him patent till he does not show all of the secrets and working device.


So Tariel decided that the easiest and the safest is to make   money on  masking  paid shows  to selected  viewers.
Every "viewer" was not satisfied, as Tariel was trying to get the most of  the money from him  and "viewer" expectation was to grab the secret.
aKing lost over 20k and he was pissed off, over the fact  that with so big investment he got nothing.


Tariel's device a very low tech device refined by him over a long period of time.
The device is an accidental discovery,by tinkering with a  component available only in hes area of the world ,he I believe does not know how it works.
-Pure speculation

in the big picture it is not important did he steal it,invent it, understand it,....or not.
HE HAS IT , and he is able to replicate it  - that is all what matters.



There are plenty of thieves and pirates here, on overunity.com,a huge amount on rev greenpretending to be skeptics,a few on overunity research.Hes device could either radically change the world or destroy it.Greed plays such a big part,Tariel most likely thinks he will make a billion dollars on hes device,he won't nor willanyone else,too many thieves and pirates,better to give it to the world(humanity)..


indeed .
think about cost of life for   humans  drop  for 80%
Food, production, refrigeration, transportation, and everything you dress yourself with less of energy cost. what they  going to do with that 80% of the money in their pockets without even asking boss  for more  on  the paycheck?
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Life is beautiful  lambada... la la la la la...
give me your pus..y  Chikita , blow me Chikita, in my new electric car = boat , beach, fishing and boredom in life ... lets make some babies, la la la la la 



Wesley
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22003 on: November 30, 2015, 07:49:38 PM »



 Heya Stivep,


 Wesley, you got to be kidding me. Tesla is no god. OOOOooo There I said it. Was he smart? Hell yes! Did he know more then anyone else how energy worked? You bet! But he was no god.


 Now lets see if we can straighten a few things out here. Most of TK's "inventions" were merely proofs of Tesla's work. Meaning he was like me following Tesla's work to figure out if Tesla did indeed know how it all works. That one discovery would be a world changing event. TK was hot on the trail of Tesla's work. Device after device was put out from TK not because he was inventing them but rather that he was following Tesla's work that I have been showing for years now. TK told everyone where he got the devices very clearly. He said he was chasing after Tesla's understanding of energy and how it flowed. Once you figured that out it would be a simple thing to hook a generator or even a converter to that flow and get unlimited energy out of that already established flow. Much like the Niagara Falls plant.


 Each device was a proof of concept for each point in a speech Tesla that he did before the royal society. I have shown links to the speech in it's entirety many many times. I have shown the parallels to the Tesla speech many many times and yet there is still this argument about the authenticity of TK's devices. I assure you the prior art was published as the notes from that speech. Do the research for once and put two and two together TK was indeed using Tesla technology and the answers to all questions you need are from the initial discovery of the Tesla system in his speech.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22004 on: November 30, 2015, 08:00:09 PM »


 Heya Stivep,


 Wesley, you got to be kidding me. Tesla is no god. OOOOooo There I said it. Was he smart? Hell yes! Did he know more then anyone else how energy worked? You bet! But he was no god.


 Now lets see if we can straighten a few things out here. Most of TK's "inventions" were merely proofs of Tesla's work. Meaning he was like me following Tesla's work to figure out if Tesla did indeed know how it all works. That one discovery would be a world changing event. TK was hot on the trail of Tesla's work. Device after device was put out from TK not because he was inventing them but rather that he was following Tesla's work that I have been showing for years now. TK told everyone where he got the devices very clearly. He said he was chasing after Tesla's understanding of energy and how it flowed. Once you figured that out it would be a simple thing to hook a generator or even a converter to that flow and get unlimited energy out of that already established flow. Much like the Niagara Falls plant.


 Each device was a proof of concept for each point in a speech Tesla that he did before the royal society. I have shown links to the speech in it's entirety many many times. I have shown the parallels to the Tesla speech many many times and yet there is still this argument about the authenticity of TK's devices. I assure you the prior art was published as the notes from that speech. Do the research for once and put two and two together TK was indeed using Tesla technology and the answers to all questions you need are from the initial discovery of the Tesla system in his speech.


Even if you right, who cares.?
Go to deli grocery and ask for free coffee, as you gave to the counter-boy  free education that took you years, about Tesla, are you going to get one?
Most of the  people expects ready to use solution.
Who knows about Niagara Falls plant.
Did Tesla become  wealthy because of practical application of his inventions?


Most of the people  have Tesla and you and me so low and so deep up their butt they couldn't take it out.
But some of them need to  use Tesla name to concentrate attention of few who  knows.
They have their own goals  they want to achieve. Good or bad it does not matter. They want to be more visible.
The same is with religion and the name of God.
That was exactly   what I was expressing.




Wesley