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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 10673586 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10665 on: February 11, 2012, 02:14:12 PM »
(sigh) Wesley, what exactly is your intent for reposting this private message to me here on a public forum? To prove you're being evasive? Mission accomplished. I will not burden you with any more questions.

Z


At first I did not mentioned  your name here.
At second I expressed respect
At third  message to you could not be send  Because of:
error show : verification procedure in red color.... or  message could not be send because  authenticity
procedure   when I was clicking to send from my Youtube inbox
[
Than I tried instead  to go to your YouTube side and send it directly from your account as a message
At the end there was no choice but give you answer here...
Obviously you got it anyhow. Probably from your YouTube account.
It is easy to blame  person for his good approach. And make him of one he never  intended to be...Do you see the point?





Wesley
PS: what I noticed is happening ... YouTube= Google "may" :)  try to force users to give out their telephone address and contact information.
That is for old  email  holders.
The reason??  "may be" invasion of privacy 
I'm dealing with very much delicate subject.. Hundreds of times i have seen :
"Please give your  telephone in case your mail is lost..." to recover your account.
and so on......... Definitely they want  100% prove that they can easy find the person if there is need for it.

But this error message I have seen for the first time.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10666 on: February 11, 2012, 03:23:26 PM »

Lithuania Experiment 2012 NYW group Video #1 (Aidas 3W in
100W out


With laser tube even more.,


Sound good, 3W in 100W out!

What else do you want??


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10667 on: February 11, 2012, 06:07:49 PM »
Sound good, 3W in 100W out!

What else do you want??


Think.... there is only one reliable proof . Do you believe Kapanadze got OU ? Why do you believe ?  ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10668 on: February 11, 2012, 06:29:44 PM »

Lithuania Experiment 2012 NYW group Video #1 (Aidas 3W in
100W out


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph87G4RxURw&feature=youtu.be


Wesley

Hi Wesley and team,
thanks for your contineous efforts to try to get more power out of your circuits.

But I don´t think this bulb shows 100 Watts output.
If this would be true your whole room would be illuminated at 100 Watts.

If that  is a 100 Watts light bulb it is right now probably only showing 5 to 10 Watts at maximum...

So you are also far away from the COP = 86 that Kapanadze showed in the 2004
video with his simple coil.

Also as in this 2004 video there are no big ground wires put through the core hole,
I wonder why he did this in the later videos ?

Does it have any effect to put the ground wire through the hole inside the core ?

Who has measured this already with a scope and can show the difference with some scope shots ?

As the 2004 video does not show this, it seems that this has not a big effect and maybe was
only done later for convenience to sort out all the cable mess and routing inside the coil
but nor for power amplification ?

Wesley, did you see at your visit in Georgia, what material Kapanadze has as the core in his coil ?
Was it just ferrite  rings or also a copper tube or any other metal tube inside the hole ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10669 on: February 11, 2012, 06:45:07 PM »
@m786
In the magnetic amplifier example you connect the low voltage sides of the 2 transformers against each other so that the voltages induced by the 2 high voltage sides cancel each other.
Now you apply a small dc current and so you shift the working point in both transformers into the non linear region and thereby changing the inductance , and thereby varying the current in the lamp. NO OU.
The other circuit relies on the principle of SR193 .
But there is something wrong:
The HV/4 frequency : no there should by 50hz applied.
A flyback circuit generates the high voltage that is fed through the sparc gap and since one end of the high voltage coil is grounded this HV coil will establish a standing wave with oscillating peak at the other end. And this fact is related to a lambda/4 wave.
The sparc gap is hammering via the pulses to the core and there occurs isotropic transmutation of FE 56 to FE54 which results in an energy gain at the output.

Hi,
do you think the High Voltage from the sparkgap is synchronized to the 50 Hz pulses ?

Does the sparkgap spark also jumps with 50 Hz frequency or is it faster ?

Is the 50 Hz oscillator inside the round box in the 2004 video ?

Is the ground wire really nessessary ?

If yes, does it pull free electrons from the ground in or does the OU energy come
from the NMR transmutation of the iron isotopes from the iron wire or iron ferrite core ?

So what is most logical explanation how Kapanadze could get COP= 86 with his circuit ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10669 on: February 11, 2012, 06:45:07 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10670 on: February 11, 2012, 07:08:39 PM »

Think.... there is only one reliable proof . Do you believe Kapanadze got OU ? Why do you believe ?  ::)

I have not seen reliable proof of OU, also not from Kapanadze but I believe.
I'm only saying that when I would have found circuit with 3W in 100W out I would make simple short video with schematic so everybody could replicate.

Don't Think, Experiment  ;)
« Last Edit: February 11, 2012, 10:19:15 PM by scratchrobot »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10671 on: February 11, 2012, 07:22:59 PM »
Hi Harti,

your hypothesis is intriguing: Fe decay with strong beta emission could (?) explain the COP=86. Yes, we are not speaking about COP=1.xx hence the difference is mainly not due to standard well known electrical laws. So the 'garden' isolated iron wire usage does remember me the work done by otto, giantkiller and others (not myself, I always used copper wires)...anyway they all did not reached any OU (in my knowledge) not speaking of giant COP figure you mentioned.

All the other hypothesis about standing wave manipulation in wires or Copper pipes even if sounding I see it difficult to explain the COP showed by K and far from the K man knowledge: too complex. V Utkin is perhaps the more close to K device...but I think only partially. For example I proved the 'blinding' effect on the wesley's pickup coil, the trumpet wave on output...but until now 'checked' overall effects are light years behind what showed by K. I succeeded in adapting HV source impedance with Caduceus input (great!!...)...but until now I've had no results in matching the pickup coil output to load: a very difficult task.

So your Fe decay beta emission could be a way...BUT REMEMBER THAT IN ORDER TO STIMULATE A HUGE BETA DECAY IS IS NECESSARY TO DELIVER IT (the Fe electrons) > 8Mev (Mega ElettronVolt) energy as stated in my previous post, using our poor-man capabilities we actually are able to impart only Kev range of energies (max of 20KV ... normal TBC usable output is far less and also my kacher output max 2KV under load condition). 8Mev are typical of linear or torus Accelerators machines I used to work with in my far past. The eventual small effect possible  at 2-6Kev should be considered marginal, certainly not accountable for COP=86. But...what if K found a way to enhance the effect while in a positive loop? May be that peak energy suddenly rockets to Mev range for combined effects due to 1/4 wave resonation, standing wave build up, mechanical ferrite rod resonation, earth current, etc...so establishing a sort of avalanche effects. Well, only my own rumblings.

At the end it seems impossible (?) to me that we eventually could be able to obtain such effect just sliding  Fe wire into copper pipe coil (K always uses a big copper pipe but I do not remember to have seen any wire protruding...).

Anyway in the course of my FE experience I tried several time to check TPU for alfa, beta or gamma emission using professional nuclear detectors: never found any even small evidence (it must be said that I checked My TPUs so no iron wires...).

Roberto

Hi Roberto and all.

If Kapanadze has found a process that uses excited Beta Decay of Iron isotopes,
there must be an easy circuit that triggers this release of beta decay.

Maybe it is much simpler just to research this basic effect.

Just take a spool of iron garden wire and pulse it with a high Voltage
sparkgap and see, how the impulse answer is you get on the iron wire with a scope.

Does the high voltage pulse onto the iron wire generate a huge radio frequency burst
in the iron wire ?
Also connect the iron wire spool with its other end to ground and see, if the impulse answer is different
then.

How does the impulse look on the scope ?
What is its amplitude ?
Can we see, that there is a bigger energy released inside the impluse answer of the spool of iron,
than was fed in via the spark pulse ?

Will 2 alufoils put over and under the iron spool charge up from beta radiation ?
how does the waveform then look on these 2 alufoils on the scope ?
As this is a capacitor it should charge up due to beta radiation ( flying off electrons from the iron coil)

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10671 on: February 11, 2012, 07:22:59 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10672 on: February 11, 2012, 08:52:12 PM »

At first I did not mentioned  your name here.
At second I expressed respect
At third  message to you could not be send  Because of:
error show : verification procedure in red color.... or  message could not be send because  authenticity
procedure   when I was clicking to send from my Youtube inbox
[
Than I tried instead  to go to your YouTube side and send it directly from your account as a message
At the end there was no choice but give you answer here...
Obviously you got it anyhow. Probably from your YouTube account.
It is easy to blame  person for his good approach. And make him of one he never  intended to be...Do you see the point?

Wesley
PS: what I noticed is happening ... YouTube= Google "may" :)  try to force users to give out their telephone address and contact information.
That is for old  email  holders.
The reason??  "may be" invasion of privacy 
I'm dealing with very much delicate subject.. Hundreds of times i have seen :
"Please give your  telephone in case your mail is lost..." to recover your account.
and so on......... Definitely they want  100% prove that they can easy find the person if there is need for it.

But this error message I have seen for the first time.

At first, you did not have to mention me. The message was still private.
At second, by posting a private message that is debatable.
At third, YouTube messaging in general is screwed up right now. Harti and I had the same problem. Many complaints. You are not being singled out and it does not mean you are a target of some sort.

I have earned a reputation of being trustworthy. Since you do not live too far from me, all I asked you was that I be allowed to come view your work. You launched into that great big long diatribe. Fine. To each his own. I believe you are being your own worst enemy. That's my own opinion and you know what they say about opinions. Everyone has one and they all stink.

Again, I will not bother you with such trivial requests again. I hope you are successful.

Z

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10673 on: February 11, 2012, 09:03:28 PM »


Will 2 alufoils put over and under the iron spool charge up from beta radiation ?
how does the waveform then look on these 2 alufoils on the scope ?
As this is a capacitor it should charge up due to beta radiation ( flying off electrons from the iron coil)

Regards, Stefan.

Ive thought on this a few times before.

But what determines which foil plate is positive and the other negative? 

Or, maybe the plates would be of the same polarity and would need an earth ground for use.

And having 2 separated plates just keeps them from being an inductive winding causing unnecessary losses.

Mags









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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10674 on: February 11, 2012, 10:20:34 PM »
Hi,

Regards, Stefan.


I'm talking to group Aidas Arunas Alona (woman active here), Niko from Zariad
 he just mentioned that laser that was used in experiment was around 1KW
The answer was they will prepare more evidence
I ask them to find model number and spec  for this laser.
And again ....They did not object to provide  more evidence.


On video I  said that Aidas uses  microscope camera  with back-light compensation and that his room is at full light but camera  see it  this way.
When Aidas disconnected light completely for the moment he switched microscope  to ultraviolet.


Than you have seen total darkness


Wesley










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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10675 on: February 11, 2012, 10:28:08 PM »
Hi,
do you think the High Voltage from the sparkgap is synchronized to the 50 Hz pulses ?

Does the sparkgap spark also jumps with 50 Hz frequency or is it faster ?

Is the 50 Hz oscillator inside the round box in the 2004 video ?

Is the ground wire really nessessary ?

If yes, does it pull free electrons from the ground in or does the OU energy come
from the NMR transmutation of the iron isotopes from the iron wire or iron ferrite core ?

So what is most logical explanation how Kapanadze could get COP= 86 with his circuit ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

In TK's patent it is mentioned that a high frequency signal is being used.
If the same concept applies to all his devices then this would not point to 50 Hz being used
for the spark gap.
It seems as if he feeds the 50 Hz @ 220V from the inverter directly into the secondary coil
finding a way to amplify the current. Patent speaks of current amplification.
In theory there are not just 2 single methods to achieve that (Displacement or FE56),
one has to consider others.

Also mentioned several times through the patent is that a magnetic field of high strength
is being created between the coils.
Strong magnetic field = strong current obvious.
I am just thinking if the TK principle would NOT be based on a magnetic effect at all
and use beta decay or something else, the patent would be on the edge of correctness...
Except of course it only applies to a singular unit (maybe even no-one has seen)
and is a decoy and all other devices are based on an entirely different principle (unlikely)
« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 12:20:43 AM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10676 on: February 12, 2012, 03:04:26 AM »

At third, YouTube messaging in general is screwed up right now. Harti and I had the same problem. Many complaints. You are not being singled out and it does not mean you are a target of some sort.



Yes, that is true. Youtube messages are screwed up in this moment.

Replys do not work.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10677 on: February 12, 2012, 03:06:48 AM »

I'm talking to group Aidas Arunas Alona (woman active here), Niko from Zariad
 he just mentioned that laser that was used in experiment was around 1KW
The answer was they will prepare more evidence
I ask them to find model number and spec  for this laser.
And again ....They did not object to provide  more evidence.


On video I  said that Aidas uses  microscope camera  with back-light compensation and that his room is at full light but camera  see it  this way.
When Aidas disconnected light completely for the moment he switched microscope  to ultraviolet.


Than you have seen total darkness


Wesley

Hi Wesley, maybe he can film it then with a normal camera and he could place a normal 100 Watts bulb besides
it beimg lit by normal AC voltage, so we could compare the brightness ?
Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10678 on: February 12, 2012, 10:03:51 AM »
Hi Stefan,

I mostly agree with you. THANKS for your lucid exposition. As a result I certainly think to make soon some test with the garden iron wire spool I've using kacher  Spark gap as HV high freq source (in practice the first part of my caduceus/pickup coil device). It should be interesting to see the behaviour of different coil geometries including bifilars made of CU-Fe and the use of alufoil coil as output. I'll report if any relevant results

Roberto
 


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10679 on: February 12, 2012, 11:48:42 AM »
Hi Stephan
I am also in full agreement with what you are saying. After years of fiddling with coils I can now easily go in to my shed and using an NST with spark gap and caps light up 200 watts but what I am looking for is the secret and I think simple way to get the 10 times that amount that Kapanadze does.
Now going to try iron wire mixed with copper and DC mixed with HV. I would have thought after over 700 pages something would be obvious, will keep trying.
Regards
Keith

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