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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 10398474 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10605 on: February 09, 2012, 12:47:05 PM »
hi all about the small nuclear reaction in the certain type of iron see the frame at min. 29:31 of this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1944827568401901581

Okay, it says just:
Chain reaction

So maybe Steven Mark did already know, that the iron is radioactive and he excited it to decay faster ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10606 on: February 09, 2012, 12:51:01 PM »
Another thing worth noting is that is such power were solely created by beta emission, without any alteration of the 'hardness' of the radiation by the aether it would be a rather dangerous device.


But what if it is a radiant aether/electron emission, suddenly there is possibility for almost anything.


Emission captured by a copper shield around a conductor is interesting and brings to mind various well known FE devices, this could for instance seem similar to the Gray tube with carbon replacing the iron. (as another material believed to have a nuclear emission)


Alas if it really is about decay of the iron then the frequencies may need to be just right, and there are plenty of down sides with a nuclear device.


In the Barbat patent an experiment is mentioned where a small portion of nuclear material greatly increases radio reception (could be due to ionization I guess).


Look at the Hutchison effect, there is no one thing that is extraordinary, but once you have enough components that effect the aether it builds up, they all disturb the aether in different ways.
I asked him and he said he also used a small amount of radium.


So it is quite possible that nuclear decay (stimulated or natural) can "add to the harmony" that is needed for the space to be conditioned for free energy.


Actually if high frequencies alone triggered decay then ferrite loop antennas and flybacks would probably be found to create radiation.


I'll leave you with this patent: [size=78%]http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4290070.html[/size]


In it is a radio frequency transformer/inductor that acts as an amplifier.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10607 on: February 09, 2012, 01:26:15 PM »
A good way to discredit the technology and drive people away from it would be to use the radioactive argument. There is not evidence or claim by anyone in the Kapanadzi camp regarding radioactivity.


Because they probably don´t know about it.. maybe even Kapanadze himself does not know it ?
It is also only a light stimulation of radioactive decay on a pulsed basis, not the normal
contineous decay, so that it is not dangerous.
It is NOT like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjghJt5Mi3w
where you have a contineous dangerous output.



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The resonance aspect, BOTH displacement current and between the two coil SETS, has been demonstrated in fragmented pieces by users here and the effects are amazing.

The process can be seen in the Puharich patent, Meyer's lectures and notes, Hubbard coil, Gray tube and motor and that list just keeps going.

Look for the pattern. What if there were only a few ways to produce a free energy device and they were all using variants of the same trick? Kapanadzi clearly found a super simple way of producing a displacement current coil. That part can be reproduced for less than 50 dollars US in a day and THAT IS THE PLACE TO START!

Or... you can pretend it is radioactive due to the iron that Kapanadzi claims does not exist.

Does he claim, that he does not use Iron wire ?

Please show me, where he claimed this ?

Please cite your source !

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You can clearly see that there is a copper tube coil under the HV neon sign wire WHICH IS NOT COAX CABLE. I would assume that Kapanadze placed ground up ferrite in that inner copper tube to produce what Meyer called called "COMPOSITE" wire. As Meyer claimed in one of his videos, "The wire becomes part of the core".


Yes, could be that the magic excitation also happens inside the stacked ferrite torroidal cores that
might be inside his coils.
By the way, was this ever verified by any visitors yet ?
Maybe Kapanadze also excite these ferrite rings and they then emit beta decay and these free electrons are
then captured inside the ferrite core via a copper tube with a slit , like shown in the Kacer video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-xKiStXBQ

and additionally outside of the ferrite core via the coils wrapped around it.

But just with simple displacement currents you can not explain COP= 86 !

There is always loss due to resistance in electricaly circuits and also during
resonance conditions, so we need to find the right effect that does this huge
power amplification and in my opinion, this can only come by this
safe excitation of radiocative Fe isotopes decay, which is just excited on the fly
and is not harmfull in this setup.




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Yours truly,

Saint Buzz.

I unmoderated you again and I hope you will not start flamewars again.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10608 on: February 09, 2012, 01:29:53 PM »
@aether22,
EH antennas are now starting to appear in field for mainly cellular services. They say that efficiency higher than normal omnidirectional solutions, one installation is in Egypt but difficult to know if it really performs better ..all as usual is kept reserved.
To have a clear idea about them I suggest you to read the attached papers (among the best I have in my library).
Roberto


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10609 on: February 09, 2012, 02:00:51 PM »
Where can one get the highest quality original upload of the 2004 workbench video. Where did it originate?
Best details can only be grasped from the highest quality version as the original recording is already quite lo q.

Hi,
I just uploaded a video only containing the coil portion on this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fgsdVuQQlg

The original source was 720x576 in FLV format and pretty clear.

I found it somewhere linked on this Realstrunik Russian forum and it was stored
on a Download server somewhere.

Sorry, do not remember the link anymore.

I can also upload the FLV file again via Multiupload.

Will do this now...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10609 on: February 09, 2012, 02:00:51 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10610 on: February 09, 2012, 02:32:17 PM »
Re2004 video
 
Anyone know what this diagram is at 1.52?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10611 on: February 09, 2012, 04:06:44 PM »
Couple questions about the 2004 video.

At about the 5:00 minute mark Tariel sets up to start the device. It appears that the Signal generator (light blue box) is fed by 12 volts.

At 5:15 min he flips on the signal generator, there is no spark or load running, you only hear a buzz from a transformer.

At 5:30 min he plugs a cord in (It appears that this cord is wired into the back of the signal gen.) into the hot 220 volt bench outlet.
This bench outlet is not wired to the system but is being feed from an independent circuit. This can be seen at 5:41 min.

After plugging in to a separate power source (the 220v bench outlet) the spark gap ignites (after the 5:30 mark)

When spark is started he unplugs the 220 volt power supply (from signal gen?) and system runs on 12 volts and lights are energized.

He then takes the amp probe reading, input is about .5 amps. At that point the 220 volt line is disconnected.

Question:

What is this light blue device, a signal generator? If so what is the purpose of the second 220 volt A-C input?

Why do you think he needs to boost the system with a 220 volt line feed?


To start the process it appears that two(2) A-C power sources are needed. Because he unplugs one power source I get the impression that the operation is very similar, to a point, like a fluorescent lamp. Could the second power source (220volt bench line) be used to start the thermionic emission process? Then from there we get the process of impact ionization?

The role of the independent power source is odd and only needed to start the device.

-Core


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10612 on: February 09, 2012, 04:30:25 PM »
Couple questions about the 2004 video.

At about the 5:00 minute mark Tariel sets up to start the device. It appears that the Signal generator (light blue box) is fed by 12 volts.

At 5:15 min he flips on the signal generator, there is no spark or load running, you only hear a buzz from a transformer.

At 5:30 min he plugs a cord in (It appears that this cord is wired into the back of the signal gen.) into the hot 220 volt bench outlet.
This bench outlet is not wired to the system but is being feed from an independent circuit. This can be seen at 5:41 min.

After plugging in to a separate power source (the 220v bench outlet) the spark gap ignites (after the 5:30 mark)

When spark is started he unplugs the 220 volt power supply (from signal gen?) and system runs on 12 volts and lights are energized.

He then takes the amp probe reading, input is about .5 amps. At that point the 220 volt line is disconnected.

Question:

What is this light blue device, a signal generator? If so what is the purpose of the second 220 volt A-C input?

Why do you think he needs to boost the system with a 220 volt line feed?


To start the process it appears that two(2) A-C power sources are needed. Because he unplugs one power source I get the impression that the operation is very similar, to a point, like a fluorescent lamp. Could the second power source (220volt bench line) be used to start the thermionic emission process? Then from there we get the process of impact ionization?

The role of the independent power source is odd and only needed to start the device.

-Core

Core, this is OLD UPS device.

They can not run without the 220​​. The first must have a source, only when there is no source can provide 220V to outlet.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10613 on: February 09, 2012, 04:34:31 PM »
Again read this!

This is from TK patent.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10614 on: February 09, 2012, 04:39:28 PM »
Core, this is OLD UPS device.

They can not run without the 220​​. The first must have a source, only when there is no source can provide 220V to outlet.

It appears that the UPS is wired to 12 volts (battery backup) At this point he is still getting an output from the UPS as he 'flips it on' before its plugged in to the independent wall outlet. Does he state in the video that it is a UPS? Whats the value of plugging it in? It already has power via the 12 volt battery. I'm not sure I understand.

-Core

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10615 on: February 09, 2012, 04:42:04 PM »
With the UPS wired to the battery and 'on' he already has 220v/50Hz. Why plug the cord in? How does that UPS work?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10616 on: February 09, 2012, 05:35:44 PM »
Again read this!

This is from TK patent.

When you read the patent description of the device you don't get the same picture as 'others' have stated it works. Maybe this is why everything is confusing? Reading the patent I get the impression of a current transformer momentarily being 'opened'.

Who really knows.

-Core


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10617 on: February 09, 2012, 05:55:16 PM »
  Guthia- Wesley  Theory.             part 1
Text of article was

redone
chart1 revision 9 is attached
The reason for it is that Guthia from Georgia who is not associated with TK and he never seen him although both  are from Tbilisi have had conversation with me for quite few hours.He was trying to explain his thoughts to others and nobody would understand him.


At first it will look like I'm giving you complete nonsense.
for that I need you to think as if the nonsense is not nonsense.


1.Does surface of the earth have sine waves and/or  is able to carry on electrical waves?do not confuse  this question with  question #2

2. Does the earth responds to waveform?Well of course it does.short listing of FE causing factors:-magnetic field-electric field- electrostatics charge- mechanical  vibration - energy conversion by mechanisms of nature-seismic activity-friction4a. If AC voltage is present between legs of the man is that AC wave shape  sinusoidal?


  If we give answer YES than we confirm that rest of the structure of the earth  between  HV wire and the man  caries on AC sinusoidal signal
By that we conforming superposition of properties of AC signal in conductor including earth.
5. If two conductors in the circuit have AC 50Hz  when we dealing with floating ground (= no ground), than when we replace one of conductors with ground we should have  the same properties in that "conductor" as well ... obeying superposition rules So  fellows what is causing tungsten ( volfram) in light bulb to  dissipate energy  into  heat?
Current or voltage?

it must be current but if there is no voltage you do not have power.
The explanation will be that voltage is delivered by means of third point of reference.
That is what TK  might be able to achieveCould we say that by the means of manipulating  ZERO POINT OF VOLTAGE TK was able to achieve maximum current and no voltage?how did he do it?say by  using standing wave properties.


6.So why than the voltage delivered to TK device was  zero after initial impulse and current was  zero.?At 2004  presentation TK did not have (samozapitka) self looping as of yet . Or he was not presenting it.His device was similar to Doland Smith device using energy source.When he pulled  out the plug the device stop to give any response there was no longer light.but he had a ground wire connected...


The meter used to measure  V/A should be  AC capable to response at frequency of oscillation and at particular the highest pick ( pucziok) of current when voltage is zero of Standing Wave 


That should be DIP METER not any regular clamp V/A meter.   you can not connect the V meter between two point if one of the points does not have relation to the point of reference.You take clamp meter  the current is in the conductor ,the voltage is not but  power equals  ZERO as V is zero than  meter can not show current as well.Got it?


Yes but  TK device was connected with one wire only ... the ground..... I agree..There is no such thing as one wire powering structure only... NOT by any means!!The circuit must be closed for the current to flow in AC CIRCUITS.
So what about Abramienko Fork..
Circuit will be always closed loop by means of electromagnetic or electrostatic  coupling.Yes we are delivering voltage to  one wire only in Abramienko Fork but we dealing with reverse signal path   upon that delivery due to  polarity of diodes.
The circuit closes due to electrostatic mechanism.
Ground=earth is there  or relation  of capacitive coupling between  two is there always.


7.So one say will Abramienko  Fork work in  altitude of 10Km?Yes it will work.The difference between ionospheric and ground potential= 45000Vanybody placed in between is under relation into ground  and/or  ionosphere. When  we increase capacitance  of the body we will create stronger relation .


8.So why the birds do not die on HV lines?Because the birds are on the same potential with no direct relation (-response) to points of reference.


9. So how to measure the voltage between two points heaving HV potential ( ground and HV wire) not connecting two points? We can use electrostatic V-meter.TK never used electrostatic V meter. And if he did It wil show voltage but we know without any doubts that HV is there ... only what we do not know is points of relation between points  As we may simply measure between points of known not points of unknown.
Electrostatic charge does not have frequency..It does have polarity and speed of change of polarity.Electrostatic charge has vector of direction.Electrostatic charge speed of change is not related to sinusoidal wave but is caused by it.It is mostly acting as a switch. You can not have  3/4 of polarity positive and 1/4 negative
At the certain point polarity changes rapidly with the speed of light  or speed of electron traveling in given medium.
Electrostatic charge can not have any % of positive and negative potential at one given point of wire due to relation  of that point in wire to ground
it is one or the opposite one at given point in time
O boy... I just found interesting something here...SWITCH?  ??..............Burst of  energy............Created by sign wave?   

Polarity of static electric field will change always rapidly while sign wave causing it will change voltage and current  gradually. That is your switch.
That means that electrostatic field responds to sign wave by means of square  wave mechanism. By that electrostatic field is causing environmental response of rapid nature . Environment is answering with rapid interaction. TK uses HV to create ionization and stronger relation between two environments...If  there must be always closed circuit than wire of circuit between TK cevice is ground wire and the second one is Electrostatic switch..In Aquarium and in Green box he used 2 ground wires  heaving distance  between the wires.correct me if I'm wrong..But he uses  a lot of load there.I recall  -faucet with cold water pipe  that is ground #1 and -radiator from old automobile deep in to the ground and water poured.   ground # 2The distance between points of  ground is our conductor that should obey  superposition rule.


10.  Can anyone from you point to me where wires from two grounds have been connected on the device?


Wesley

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10618 on: February 09, 2012, 06:16:17 PM »
I have the simplest logical idea on Tesla /kapanadze device.  only if you are interrested and not ignoring it.
will this site acceppt word document file?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10619 on: February 09, 2012, 06:42:06 PM »
If that light blue box is an emergency UPS, then it could be that it requires mains power first and then senses the removal of that and switches to battery
HOWEVER the exact same light blue box has been used in the green box presentation WITHOUT mains power for startup which
lead me to believe that it is a 12 V DC inverter.
So Core's question is absolutely justified, why would it need a mains startup on the workbench, when in the outside green box
presentation it hadn't needed it ?
 
 Only answer that i can think of is connected to the difference of starting the device up
 in the 2 presentations.
 In the green box presentation,the first switch was used, then he waited like 5 seconds and then flipped the 2nd switch.
 On the workbench there is only 1 switch.
 So it could be that a capacitor was charged with the first switch in the green box to provide a huge startup current to get the device running.
 After all it was also looping back on itself.

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