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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407648 times)

cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10530 on: February 05, 2012, 10:12:43 PM »


Only light radiation from sparkgap (if it is) depending on frequency – and it varies, depending from Ferrites, number of wire turns in coil, configuration etc..

i used Russian ferrite rings 40mm diameter outside 24.5mm inside – Factory label: "M2000HM1-17" (very hard to get it working)
better and easier with smaller diameters 32mm like "M2000HM" similar what used SR

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With M2000HM you can catch the effect immediately – it is very easy! (frequency something around 20 – 30 KHz - using Blocking generator, mini tesla coil, or Flyback with adjustable ferrite – for frequency) use compas to see field – it detects field as soon you go in right frequency...
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don't ask me about china ferrites and other manufacturers – newer tried these ferrites!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10531 on: February 05, 2012, 10:34:57 PM »

P.S.John M  you can do this by simple experiment.

(smaler side of ferrite rings – for frequency adjust, pull it back (out of coil) for adjustment.)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10532 on: February 05, 2012, 10:47:44 PM »
@all
i am new to this forum. i have been monitoring the FE efforts for a couple of decades now but not publically several participating. i am familiar with Tom Bearden's theories and efforts as well as others. It seems that you guys are on the verge of a break through.

The group effort is a very good approach. However, i would strongly encourage you guys to document your efforts privately and keep a will secured copy of your work either with a trusted friend or in a very secure and secret location that can be passed on later. MANY researchers have lost their efforts by deceit or theft and not lived to tell about it.

i believe that we have arrived at a time when the FE nut is about to be cracked by the public and not reside in the hands of the "government".  Historically, the individuals who have solved the puzzle have been compromised by money, or fame or just "removed".

IF the method and construction is well documented and distributed then it will be much more difficult to destroy or control. This kind of public forum is only part of the answer. The rest of the answer remains to the individual researchers.

@cosmoslv
yes i believe that you are correct. The secret is crossing the ether/material barrier to extract energy from the ether. It appears that the method that Tesla used was the resonance frequency approach using high voltage and high frequencies. 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10533 on: February 05, 2012, 11:10:55 PM »
I got this message:

Stefan,
 
What they say in this video is of no consequence. There, they do not reveal how the device works.
Kapanadze generator is a modification of CZ 284 333, the three coil version. The modification consists of using pulsed HF generation (spark)  rather than the continuous wave as described in the patent. The spark is phase synchronized with the magnetic field modulation sine-wave (~50 Hz). The principle of operation is best seen in the pictures from Georgia, published by Wesley. Bare in mind that the fuel in this generator may be either Fe or Cu in the form of foil. I think, Kapanadze will reveal it sooner rather than later. Michel Meyer revealed it first in the Science et Vie article in March 1976.
You can assume the same, or very similar, for  Steven Mark devices.
If you wish, you can publish this information, omitting my name.

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Now I found the Patent file:

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?FT=D&date=19980812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=CZ&NR=9603387A3&KC=A3&ND=5


Nuclear magnetic resonance is stimulated in a generator by the action of a magnetic field and electric current on an Fe 56 ferrous core, whereupon part of the current gained through conversion to Fe 54, is returned to the core, while the remaining part of the current is drained out of the equipment, allowing disconnection of the source and a self-sustaining process until exhaustion of the Fe 56. The apparatus for performing this method is a generator with a core in the form of an Fe 56 bar (2), support construction (1), inductors (6, 7, 8, 9), input from the source (11), necessary circuits and output. The device is equipped with a circuit for transfer of part of the gained current back to the bar (2).;  The device can be advantageously arranged with current output from the bar (2) split into two parts, one conducted to a regulator (14) for turning off the source (11) and the other conducted to the apparatus output.

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Here is the attachment of the PDF file unfortunately in Cz language, but there are some pics at the end.

This would mean that we can use "scrap metal" as an energy source .
Finally, a rational explanation !
has anybody found an english translation ?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10534 on: February 06, 2012, 12:22:24 AM »
Microcontroller,

very interesting, thanks for explanations.
According to you,  what caused the heat in SM setups and did he solve it?

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10535 on: February 06, 2012, 12:30:06 AM »
@all
i am new to this forum. i have been monitoring the FE efforts for a couple of decades now but not publically several participating. i am familiar with Tom Bearden's theories and efforts as well as others. It seems that you guys are on the verge of a break through.

The group effort is a very good approach. However, i would strongly encourage you guys to document your efforts privately and keep a will secured copy of your work either with a trusted friend or in a very secure and secret location that can be passed on later. MANY researchers have lost their efforts by deceit or theft and not lived to tell about it.

i believe that we have arrived at a time when the FE nut is about to be cracked by the public and not reside in the hands of the "government".  Historically, the individuals who have solved the puzzle have been compromised by money, or fame or just "removed".

IF the method and construction is well documented and distributed then it will be much more difficult to destroy or control. This kind of public forum is only part of the answer. The rest of the answer remains to the individual researchers.

@cosmoslv
yes i believe that you are correct. The secret is crossing the ether/material barrier to extract energy from the ether. It appears that the method that Tesla used was the resonance frequency approach using high voltage and high frequencies.


Yes you are right!
Tesla many times wrote that Eather has two state/condition between material world and non material world – that way nobody can really catch or measure it.



Maybe OffTopic, but: This is the reason why physicists not agree Free Energy possibilities and existence of eather! that way global teaching systems teach (Don't believe in truth!) believe in our truth, that God is man with beard. Trivial – isn't? nobody see God, but believe / Nobody see eather, but don't agree. I just agree with that God is universal Law and it is universe, each of us as creator in physical world. Everything is energy, electrons neutrons, our Soul have billion's of electrons, that way Tesla can make a device who can photograph an Aura.

Actually we are so small compare to universe – just look on earth from outer space (you see how small we are?) and what is 2000 and 12 year's in history for study this BIG universe and Laws of universe.

We know that clouds stay in sky because water particles are charget with (-) and ionosphere with (+) minus and plus always love each other and wants to discharge energy.
We know how to build very complex things with precision of nanometers.
So many happened – and this year will be last year to step in new age. (nothing bad will happened, no end of the world, just end of the dark and dirty ages) take your time, not hurry. Because universe knows when and where in right time and in right place and nobody can stop this process – teach and enlighten your soul first!

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*** Universe Love "harmony" and this harmony are "Progress Of Evolution" you can't reach AntiGarvity in 13 century without electricity and
without right level of intelect. Kid who has 2 years old connot go to kitchen and make complex food – because they can injury selves with knife etc...
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But nobody seems to know this, nobody seems to care about this... Nobody seems to know this, nobody seems to care about this...



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P.S. in ferrite device are not used Magnetic Nuclear Resonance (this is too expensive and complex to build) and no transmutation like in Czechs patent /These techniques are very expensive, complex and some materials will be very expensive...

Some time ago i draw parallels – that seems that it is some nuclear transmutation or something like that, but when i teach and read deeply Czechs patent and study NMR i understand that it is far away. This is maybe brain and stereotypes some dogmas, that always we can find what we do in already written books (we want to believe) But not always it is like that!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10536 on: February 06, 2012, 12:53:59 AM »
Microcontroller,

very interesting, thanks for explanations.
According to you,  what caused the heat in SM setups and did he solve it?

Thanks,  Gyula


and not to forget why it would then stop when putting it upside down?

gyulasun

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10537 on: February 06, 2012, 12:57:13 AM »
Rensseak,

I think SM solved the upside down problem in his later setups,  (dont know how...)

cosmoLV

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10538 on: February 06, 2012, 01:04:17 AM »
Rensseak,

I think SM solved the upside down problem in his later setups,  (dont know how...)

ou, Steven Mark – this is also interesting :) The Gyroscopic effect is coused bu a Running standing wave (i think) not shure this is the same. But this is only logical way how to get this effect in solid state device... as far as i long time ago experimented with this. I don't have a clue how it start without batteries – only by magnet to start a device. No clue how it works! But interesting thing :)
I heared from some guy who talked with Steven Mark (as he say, i don't know) but he are using some kind of special alloy.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10539 on: February 06, 2012, 03:10:20 AM »

Here is my favourite : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a7X5fHhmeEY

(however due to ACTA they removed sound :-( )

cosmoLV thank you very much ! I believe delamorto circuit is not a hoax !

Note: gap between two banks of ferrite rings...

Now , I wonder why this setup is limited to only 500-700W of output power ? Something is still wrong , but don't think about it right now. We need a replication first ! Even small 10W would be nice and allow to research various problems in circuit.

The only problem I have with ferrite and iron core is possible radiation which is not easy to measure (costly apparatus)


Yeah I like that one too..... except it doesn't have any real output measurements. :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB7YdJJhQHg

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10541 on: February 06, 2012, 09:44:35 AM »
Приветствую! Не которые утверждали, что лампы включены как гирлянды.... То это заблуждение. Там 5 ламп по 1 кВт и подключены паралелно. И прижаты к постели, что бы провода не соскальзывали на пол. С уважением Александр.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10542 on: February 06, 2012, 09:59:53 AM »
@microcontroller,

all very interesting. Thanks.
 Anyway Iron has the greatest nuclear binding energy so it seems very, very difficult to stimulate it to emits anything unless subjected to very high energies like that in particle accelerators .

Please read the following:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nucene/nucbin.html

The iron limit:
The buildup of heavier elements in the nuclear fusion processes in stars is limited to elements below iron, since the fusion of iron would subtract energy rather than provide it. Iron-56 is abundant in stellar processes, and with a binding energy per nucleon of 8.8 MeV (look at the diagram), it is the third most tightly bound of the nuclides. Its average binding energy per nucleon is exceeded only by 58Fe and 62Ni, the nickel isotope being the most tightly bound of the nuclides.

Also:

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/961/why-is-the-nucleus-of-an-iron-atom-so-stable

Lighter nuclei liberate energy when undergoing fusion, heavier nuclei when undergoing fission. What is it about the nucleus of an Iron atom that makes it so stable? Alternatively: Iron has the greatest nuclear binding energy .
 
I worked for almost 20 years in atomic research center and never had the opportunity to measure activity from any standard iron manufact. So it seems difficult that SM or any other succeeded into doing any' house room' nuclear transmutation.

You would make me happy to read any supporting doc you could have as in the past years I did an enormous work trying to duplicate the SM TPU device as it is possible to see in Overunity Forum.
Thanks

Roberto


 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10543 on: February 06, 2012, 10:33:00 AM »
I was just thinking how I might do an experiment, create an LC tank circuit and inductively couple to it and pull power from it.


But I realized that the act of pulling power from it will lower the impedance of the coil killing the resonance, so it would need to be tuned allowing for a given draw of power, more or less would kill the resonance and I assume the power.


This makes sense of various things in the Kapanadze patent and it also neatly dove-tales with an observation Stefan made, that when there is less load the spark gap fires more often, and when it draws more power it fires less often.


Why would you draw more power than you can use so you must waste it?
Because drawing less kills the effect?


BTW my guess is that the following could work:


Based on SR and many other FE devices and a rather interesting account here: [size=78%]https://www.goldenplanetforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22[/size] (the second one, the first is evidence of an aether vortex though, Hamel like)
This result indicates that flux fields can be projected, similar claims by Boyd Bushman. (and unusual experiments with antennas and reception)


You have an electromagnet (open ferrite core) pulsing at a given low frequency, this circuit is charged negatively to a high voltage.


You have a tank circuit on an air core, this circuit is the same as the main tank circuit used by Wesley, this is charged positively to a high voltage that discharges to the negative circuit when the voltages raises too high.


And then a pickup coil pulls it off the tank circuit.


The only differences between the current circuit that Wesley has and this is:
1: This frequency would be probably lower than the flyback frequency.
2: A coil (and some source of power) must be added after D2 (the negative side).
3: The spark gap need not fire through the caduceus potentially, Romero's didn't and he got the trumpet.


The flux transfer from the electromagnet to the air core tank coil is increased unidirectionaly, because the pickup coil has low impedance due to the air core a lot of power must flow through it to cancel the field pulled in from the ferrite, this results in significant energy gain.


To put it another way, Tesla made his coils to pump aether, well they do, out of the negative and into the positive. (and out with the expansion of a magnetic field and in on the collapse) What moving energized aether does is carry EM flux in a direct way, no loss of intensity.


The aether is also able to cohere other energy into electrical energy or fields, this may mean that the intense high frequency EMF could be cohered to add to a lower frequency flux field.


If this happens then the increase in energy will be huge because the required current for a 60hz field to match the inductive power of a 1mhz field is enormous even if the latter is weak.


In short, add all sorts of flux sources to a negative HF HV part of the circuit and with correct tuning you can pull flux from there to a positively charged part of the circuit.


Of course the devil is in the details, but if easy enough to try give it a shot...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10544 on: February 06, 2012, 11:43:53 AM »
Hi all,
I was just thinking how I might do an experiment, create an LC tank circuit and inductively couple to it and pull power from it.
But I realized that the act of pulling power from it will lower the impedance of the coil killing the resonance, so it would need to be tuned allowing for a given draw of power, more or less would kill the resonance and I assume the power.


The device designed by Wesley and his group is rather unique among several possible solutions: V. Utkin detailed the other solutions.

I Think interesting to share some observations:

1 - Caduceus resonating. In the beginning I tried to resonate it as I saw some increase in output. At the end I'm discovering that leaving it broadband (as it is and even if it does show resonance when put in the real circuit due to the other components attached) perhaps is better. Anyway the caduceus could be swapped with equal efficiency with either a bifilar serial connected coil or a bifilar pancake like I did with my 'pancake' version of the device itself. The purpose of the bifilar or Caduceus coil organization is to create a 'delta Dirac' high energy pulse that charge the interwinding bifilar or caduceus capacitance: so giving way to free quadratic voltage increase of output trumpet. The load on trumpet wave is not seen by the primary due to presence of a free secondary a la Utkin: hence there should be no load problem.

2 - Output power. Here is the problem. The trumpet wave that in my case reached during some run up to 1.3KVpp does contain, at least in my case,  little power. The repetition rate being 200-300Hz. The low available 'mean or rms power' is also low due to high mismatch between the source (pickup coil) and the load (two in series connected 220V/60W bulbs). All is complicated by the SG2 that outputs only a 200nsec 1KV pulses at 300Hz rate...good to charge a cap...but nothing near real power. Actually It (the load) does not kill the output as 'trumpet' remains as before (SG2 isolates the pickup coil output for 99.9% of the time).

Alternative output ways: mach the impedances, eliminate the SG2, use of an output pulse transformer....but, as long as the output rate so low...nothing is going to be good as long as output duty cycle so low!

I could go on for all the day, but I'd like to hear your observations. TNX

Roberto
 
 
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