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Offline Kator01

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10680 on: February 12, 2012, 04:34:47 PM »
KATOR, HERE IS SOLID 14 GAGE STEEL WIRE WITH PVC INSULATION
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Hello Tektron,

thank your, now I get the idea and can look for cables here in germany. These clothling-cables are mostly pure plastic here, but I know there are some manufactures who produce iron-litz-wire with a soft plastic-isolation.
It is a soft, transparent and very thick plastic which will not stay the high voltage so an additional isolation has to be applied.

Reards

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10681 on: February 12, 2012, 05:08:52 PM »
Hi Roberto and all.

If Kapanadze has found a process that uses excited Beta Decay of Iron isotopes,
there must be an easy circuit that triggers this release of beta decay.

Maybe it is much simpler just to research this basic effect.

Just take a spool of iron garden wire and pulse it with a high Voltage
sparkgap and see, how the impulse answer is you get on the iron wire with a scope.

Does the high voltage pulse onto the iron wire generate a huge radio frequency burst
in the iron wire ?
Also connect the iron wire spool with its other end to ground and see, if the impulse answer is different
then.

How does the impulse look on the scope ?
What is its amplitude ?
Can we see, that there is a bigger energy released inside the impluse answer of the spool of iron,
than was fed in via the spark pulse ?

Will 2 alufoils put over and under the iron spool charge up from beta radiation ?
how does the waveform then look on these 2 alufoils on the scope ?
As this is a capacitor it should charge up due to beta radiation ( flying off electrons from the iron coil)

Regards, Stefan.



Stefan - Excellent suggestions for experimentation with iron wire. It always bothered me that kapanadze videos showed so many different devices where it was said that after his demonstration he would dismantle them. This would indicate that he can easily create a working device. Iron wire could be the Holy Grail of the device that is not easily discerned from any video. That said, is the two grounds just to mislead people? Although Don Smith said it was necessary for his devices to work, but others just recommended and showed that some other mass such as a metal plate is all that is needed to get the electrostatic coupling. For higher power it may be necessary to provide ground.
I also thought Wesley's video needs some explanation (light output) and I am sure he will provide it.

John


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10682 on: February 12, 2012, 05:55:09 PM »
John


Where did you saw two grounds ?!!!!  :o 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10683 on: February 12, 2012, 06:00:50 PM »
Thank you Kator.
download pdf.
read carefully to get the feeling.

@energia9, m786 :






 Hi energia9,
 
 very interesting, have to read it 3 to 4 times to understand your concept and the implications. It will take some time because of the different layess of my memories I have to dig into concerning experiences with transductor-technique, m786 is referring to, although you will not immidiately understand why I refer to this. If we develop ideas about how to tap the ZPE we need to know where the source is located. With matter involved , especially iron, it is the spontaneous magnetization which is the source we can tap. Right here the ZPE is pumping in energy every second, and I wonder why no one looks at this. I will fetch the basics and the data which I found in an old physics-textbook dated 1940. I did not find the number elsewhere.
 
Go here : http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/ferro.html
 
And the read the link about the “long range ordering”
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/ferro.html#c2
 
Now we learn here that iron is a true magnetic-field-amplifier  ( > 5000 )
 
Now you scroll down to the next paragraph : The Curie Temperature
Starting from 0 degree Celsius the spontaneous magnetization disappears at 786 deg. Celsius
 
Specific heat-capacity of iron : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_capacity
 
0.450 Joule per gram or 450 Joule per kilogram
 
So the energy of 1 kg of iron contained or better “hidden” in the spontaneous magnetization ( long range order)  at 786 deg.Celsius with reference to 0 deg. Celsius is 450 J x 786 = 218 780 Joule which equals Watt seconds. ( 218 780 / 1000 = 218 KW s
With reference to = deg. Kelvin and  1041 K Curie-Temp  it is : 1041 x 450 = 468 450 Ws.
Since this energy( in form of spontaneous magnetization)  is continuously existent every succeeding second in the flow of time, you can sum it up for 1 hour to 1,682 672 Million KWh .

In order to simulate the fieldstrenght H present by spontaneous magnetizations we would need :
1,5 x10⁷ Oe = 1,194 x 10 ⁹ A/m !!! , a value which we can not produce by technical means ( these numbers I got from my old physics textbook )
 
Now the question is : Why are we not able to extract this energy present within a transformer ?
Answer :  The energy we apply in a transformer is used to order the former unordered spontaneous magnetization only and upon releasing it we can only transfer what we have put into it in the first place. We do not tap the 468 450 Ws – Level, because after releasing our input the magnetic nucleus fall back on this level. Would we able to tap it the iron will cool down and recover its unordered state by tapping the ZPE.
Now we have to think about how to tap this level. And it is here the magnetic amplifier-technique m786 ( funny why he is using the 786 Curie-Temp in his user name )  is speaking about comes into play.


Now, the hunt is on.




Regards
 
Kator01


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10684 on: February 12, 2012, 06:07:51 PM »
Inclined to believe that this is the phenomenon ... excitement .... electrons in a metal surface under the effect of HV field, must be something very simple .... that's why it's so hard to understand ... we're looking for something complicated....... instead  any great invention ... it's so simple in principle.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10685 on: February 12, 2012, 06:17:45 PM »
John


Where did you saw two grounds ?!!!!  :o



One ground was to a water pipe and the other was to a buried radiator in one of the videos (?). I don't know if that was always the case on other videos.

John

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10686 on: February 12, 2012, 06:21:25 PM »
Inclined to believe that this is the phenomenon ... excitement .... electrons in a metal surface under the effect of HV field, must be something very simple .... that's why it's so hard to understand ... we're looking for something complicated....... instead  any great invention ... it's so simple in principle.


ok, what is the simplest way to generate ac ? maybe magnet and coil and a movement or pulsing ?
recall various Tariel comments [size=78%]who is Melnichenko ,huh? what is the surrounding energy we are tapping everytime even with physical excersise , huh ?[/size]

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10687 on: February 12, 2012, 06:24:01 PM »


One ground was to a water pipe and the other was to a buried radiator. I don't know if that was always the case on other videos.

John


 ;D  You didn't watched "green box" video carefully ! Watch again with english subtitles or better with russian subtitles (more fully translated ) . You will find that burried radiator failed to light more then one bulb and ground connection was only one.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10688 on: February 12, 2012, 07:22:41 PM »

 ;D  You didn't watched "green box" video carefully ! Watch again with english subtitles or better with russian subtitles (more fully translated ) . You will find that burried radiator failed to light more then one bulb and ground connection was only one.


forest-Thank you for the clarification. I think Wesley mentioned two grounds relating to his questions or theories about the Kapandze as quoted below.

"But he uses  a lot of load there. I recall  -faucet with cold water pipe  that is ground #1 and -radiator from old automobile deep in to the ground and water poured.   ground # 2 The distance between points of  ground is our conductor that should obey  superposition rule."

If he didn't have to use two grounds then we don't have to include even more theory to make it more complicated then it is.

John

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10689 on: February 12, 2012, 07:54:06 PM »
Much energy there ... the universe is more energy than matter ... even more people are composed of energy than matter .... and i think this year will be 2012 .... more .... changing.... the people will have access to other energy....... researchers neglected until now ... now is the time.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10690 on: February 12, 2012, 08:21:12 PM »

forest-Thank you for the clarification. I think Wesley mentioned two grounds relating to his questions or theories about the Kapandze as quoted below.

"But he uses  a lot of load there. I recall  -faucet with cold water pipe  that is ground #1 and -radiator from old automobile deep in to the ground and water poured.   ground # 2 The distance between points of  ground is our conductor that should obey  superposition rule."

If he didn't have to use two grounds then we don't have to include even more theory to make it more complicated then it is.

John

TK even stated that you dont need any ground at all. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1q41KaTwZA&feature=channel_video_title

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10691 on: February 12, 2012, 08:41:01 PM »
TK even stated that you dont need any ground at all. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1q41KaTwZA&feature=channel_video_title




Sure.Then do you have idea why he used ground ? I think that is important to answer  :o


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10692 on: February 12, 2012, 09:11:22 PM »
@All
Because the subject of Transmutation has come up many times, I though this info would be nice to have here.

Transmutation of Iron producing excess energy
Based on the principles of the Vallée Synergetic Generator:
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/vsg/vsg35.htm


The shorter the Half life the more energy is released in a given time

 Only (0.282%)of Iron is Fe-58
Fe-58 Transmutes to Mn-58 with a half life of 3.0 Sec. (Shortest)
Mn-58 transmutes back to Fe-58 releasing 6.250 MeV of Beta.
Making it the best, you get over 2 MeV per Sec out of it.

 Then (2.119%) of Iron is Fe-57
Fe-57 Transmutes to Mn-57 with a half life of 85.4 Sec.
Mn-57 Transmutes back to Fe-57 releasing 2.691 MeV of Beta.
This one gives you 0.03151 MeV per Sec. or 31.51 KeV per Sec.

The 2 most common Naturally Occuring isotopes make up (97.599%) of all iron
Fe-56 (91.754%) from Mn-56 half life 2.5785 Hours 3.695 MeV Beta (To Long)
Fe-54 (5.845%) from Mn-54 half life 312.3 Days 1.377 MeV Beta  (Much To Long)

Mn-56 and Mn-54 have to long a Half life, releasing to little energy per sec to be useful.
Because (97.599%)of Iron will produce these, that is why we need a large sample of Iron,
like Thin Iron wire. 

Ideally, if we could get some pure Fe-58 we would have a really good power source.

These figures are based on the info found at this site.
http://www.matpack.de/Info/Nuclear/Nuclids/nuclids0.html
This is the best Periodic Table I have found for this, just click on any element to check it out.

As for Copper Transmutation, Cu-65 (30.83%)is the best:
Cu-65 from Ni-65 half life 2.5172 Hours releasing 2.137 MeV Beta
That's only 235.82 eV per Sec. which is quite low, so I don't think this will work well.
But Iron Fe-58 has potential.

This also brings us back to Carbon which appears to be far better then Iron for this.
B-12 to C-12 Half Life 20.20 MS releasing 13.369 MeV of beta.
That's 13.369 MeV in 20.20 milliseconds. Or about 13 Million Volts at 50 Hz.
A whole section of this forum was devoted to that topic a few years back but died out.
I believe the biggest problem was getting the magnetic field and frequency just right. 

But Maybe! Iron will work better because of it's magnetic properties. 
In order for NMR to take place a magnetic field of a precise strength must surround the sample,
as the sample oscillates at a precise frequency. 
Iron being magnetic will solve this problem, because the very atoms will be surrounded by the magnetic field.

Of course this is based on the theory that NMR will cause Transmutation to take place! 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10693 on: February 12, 2012, 09:12:29 PM »
Hi Wesley, maybe he can film it then with a normal camera and he could place a normal 100 Watts bulb besides
it beimg lit by normal AC voltage, so we could compare the brightness ?
Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.
He does not have regular camera, he does not have  photo camera, Most of the free energy activist in this part of the world do put last possible resources into the project.
I have send to Aidas BNC 625 generator that I have purchased from ebay in Israel. The seller contacted me ..and Aidas contacted me. Generator was returned after Lithuanian took money from Aidas 1200 lit= 3 times amount I paid for used generator. as fee for custom..
Than generator was returned  as is not approved by UE but money has not been paid to Aidas back.
Than I paid additional $45 to get it back to US...
Second generator was send by me  from US to Lithuania using private carrier  by sea 8 weeks and was not delivered to Aidas as of yet.
If I will decide to go to Lithuania I'm going to bring him few generators extra.
AS US citizen I should have no custom fee...It is my property and I can do with it  whatever I want.. lose it give it or pay for say ...costs of accommodation  :) using generators as monetary value... There is no  regulation in this area ..I'm allowed to even to  destroy it...in any land including Lithuania.


Dear Stefan I have  big respect to you personally and I think you can understand
That over 20% VAT does not apply to me...
and that cost of used laboratory equipment is the cheapest in US.


It would be nice to ask for help from FE.community...
I'm not willing to ask for it.
I was offered 100 000 000 EURO today ............




For everyone of you.........here is the message

money YES.......... but not for keeping my mouth shut.
That will not happened......
EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wesley
I want to keep my life the way it is.............
I'm not rich and I'm not going to get rich this way..........
 




 


 


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10694 on: February 12, 2012, 10:30:34 PM »



Sure.Then do you have idea why he used ground ? I think that is important to answer  :o


To me it sounded like he said "grant is not needed". I tried to determine the context it was said in but could not for sure. More than likely he said ground was not needed, but was that just for lower power or even high power.

John

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