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Offline John M

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10575 on: February 08, 2012, 07:52:29 PM »
How TK device might work based on theory.
Lets call it


  Guthia- Wesley  Theory.




The reason for it is that Guthia from Georgia who is not associated with TK and he never seen him although both  are from Tbilisi have had conversation with me for quite few hours.
He was trying to explain his thoughts to others and nobody would understand him.


At first it will look like I'm giving you complete nonsense.
for that I need you to think as if the nonsense is not nonsense.


1.Does surface of the earth have sine waves and/or  is able to carry on electrical waves?
do not confuse  this question with  question  #2



2. Does the earth responds to waveform?
Well of course it does.
Lets think for the moment that I was sometime  ago say (10 or more years) a Principal Investigator at number of scientific , government sponsored programs NASA Darpa
DoD ....and president of scientific entity located in WTC1... (for these who do not know.. go to Dr Judy Wood and John H ..)
We have been dealing with waves.
Piezoelectric  foil placed on the surface of the earth  was reading mechanical  vibrations coming from  the earth.
The basic principal for this passive reading was to measure speed of  waves coming  from the ground up to our sensor.


Than signal from foil was send to AD converter  than to DOS the signals at  certain spectrum have been send to Fourier analyses and than to photo-styler or any graphic program to get a picture -  cut of ,of the ground to depth  about 2km.  The picture represented all of the tiny  detail because  of
ever existing vibrations created by earth rotation, moon rotation, volcanic and seismic activity, oceans and rivers flow, man kind activity all of the borders between layers ..gravel, clay,rock  in extremely good resolution .


For purpose of FE...one of  conclusions might be friction that creates electric charge between layers?
and we drop to it:
- magnetic field of the earth and colliding magnetic fluxes from solar bodies, cosmic rays...
-friction of the air and electric charge...   
- the differentiation between to environments   air and earth..
-dielectric constant of layers and/or borders of the layers.. ( earth)
all of nonsense  is here to think about it...

short listing of FE causing factors:
-magnetic field
-electric field
- electrostatics charge
- mechanical  vibration
- energy conversion by mechanisms of nature
-seismic activity
-friction


Should I ask the question
3.If power company  delivers electric  charge at frequency 50Hz than we have sinus at wire only or we have sinus at ground as well.
4. If man walking on  the ground when HV wires are  on the ground after storm than
 the resistance or better say impedance of his body between legs  is caring on  DC or 50Hz AC?
- he is far from wires
-the step voltage is there
-electrical conductivity of his body is easier  for the current to flow
-and power company DID NOT delivered DC but AC 50Hz.


5. If two conductors in the circuit have AC 50Hz  when we dealing with floating ground (= no ground)


than when we replace one of conductors with ground we should have  the same properties in that "conductor" as well ... obeying superposition rules

I have had discussion with John my friend he said that DC  caused death as well  only at voltage 600V 600A when man is walking on broken line.
Yes..
But he was dealing with 2m distance and DC is decreasing with distance while power companies send AC over hundreds of miles...
The man resistance ( NOT IMPEDANCE) was easier path between legs than ground.
The man was never  dealing with  zero voltage and maximum current.
So  fellows what is causing tungsten ( volfram) in light bulb to  dissipate energy  into  heat?
Current or voltage?


Could we say that by the means of manipulating  ZERO POINT OF VOLTAGE
TK was able to achieve maximum current and no voltage?

how did he do it?
say by  using standing wave properties.
 
6.So why than the voltage delivered to TK device was  zero after initial impulse and current was  zero.?

At 2004  presentation TK did not have (samozapitka) self looping as of yet . Or he was not presenting it.
His device was similar to Doland Smith device using energy source.
When he pulled  out the plug the device stop to give any response there was no longer light.
but he had a ground wire connected....

Example:
Say I do not have respect to one of you but I have respect to my own wife.
7.Can than anyone measure amount of disrespect to that particular individual
by only knowing me and my wife?
NO you can not connect the V meter between two point if one of the points does not have relation to the point of reference.
You take clamp meter  the current is in the conductor ,the voltage is not but  power equals  ZERO as V is zero than  meter can not show current as well.
Got it?

Yes but  TK device was connected with one wire only ... the ground.....
 I agree..

There is no such thing as one wire powering structure only... NOT by any means!!
The circuit must be closed for the current to flow in AC CIRCUITS.

So what about Abramienko Fork..

Circuit will be always closed loop by means of electromagnetic or electrostatic  coupling.
Yes we are delivering voltage to  one wire only in Abramienko Fork but we dealing with reverse signal path   upon that delivery due to  polarity of diodes.
The circuit closes due to electrostatic mechanism.
Ground=earth is there  or relation  of capacitive coupling between  two is there always.

7.So one say will Abramienko  Fork work in  altitude of 10Km?
Yes it will work.


The difference between ionospheric and ground potential= 45000V
anybody placed in between is under relation into ground  and/or  ionosphere.
When  we increase capacitance  of the body we will create stronger relation .


8.So why the birds do not die on HV lines?
Because the birds are on the same potential with no direct relation (-response) to points of reference.


9. So how to measure the voltage between two points heaving HV potential ( ground and HV wire) not connecting two points?
 We can use electrostatic V-meter.
TK never used electrostatic V meter. And if he did It wil show voltage but we know without any doubts that HV is there ... only what we do not know is points of relation between points 
As we may simply measure between points of known not points of unknown.
Electrostatic charge does not have frequency..It does have polarity and speed of change of polarity.
Electrostatic charge has vector of direction.

Electrostatic charge speed of change is not related to sinusoidal wave but is caused by it.
It is mostly acting as a switch. You can not have  3/4 of polarity positive and 1/4 negative

At the certain point polarity changes rapidly with the speed of light  or speed of electron traveling in given medium.


Electrostatic charge can not have any % of positive and negative potential at one given point of wire due to relation  of that point in wire to ground
it is one or the opposite one at given point in time


 

Still working on it, do not respond to  this text as of yet...


Wesley


 PS: I just have posted rev#4 of chart #1 redone

 
 
"Could we say that by the means of manipulating ZERO POINT OF VOLTAGE
 TK was able to achieve maximum current and no voltage?"

This condition occurs at resonance, when you can have maximum voltage and no current or have maximum current and no voltage.
I did an experiment where I had two identical coils The primary was connected to a signal generator through a 3 volt bulb in series. The secondary was connected to a 3 volt bulb in series. Both coils were coupled together through a ferrite rod.
 When I tuned the signal generator the bulb on the primary remained lit until I hit the resonant frequency and then went out. The bulb on the secondary remained out until the resonant frequency was hit and lit to almost the same brightness as the bulb on the primary had been. When the primary was in resonance there was very little current flowing from the signal generator because of the primaries high impedance state. Likewise the secondary was also in a high impedance state but had maximum current flowing through the bulb in a resonant condition and the bulb lit.
 For those who are skeptical, just try it. You also can't say it was an impedance transformation to match the signal generator to the load since the generator had a 50 ohm output and the coils impedance at the resonant frequency was something like 500 ohms.
 I still think the way to overunity is through high voltage and resonant conditions. I just think we have to know what conditions to create and build to create it.
 John
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10576 on: February 08, 2012, 08:14:07 PM »
How TK device might work based on theory.
Lets call it








  Guthia- Wesley  Theory.




The reason for it is that Guthia from Georgia who is not associated with TK and he never seen him although both  are from Tbilisi have had conversation with me for quite few hours.
He was trying to explain his thoughts to others and nobody would understand him.


At first it will look like I'm giving you complete nonsense.
for that I need you to think as if the nonsense is not nonsense.




1.Does surface of the earth have sine waves and/or  is able to carry on electrical waves?
do not confuse  this question with  question  #2




2. Does the earth responds to waveform?
Well of course it does.
Lets think for the moment that I was sometime  ago say (10 or more years) a Principal Investigator at number of scientific , government sponsored programs NASA Darpa
DoD ....and president of scientific entity located in WTC1... (for these who do not know.. go to Dr Judy Wood and John H ..)
We have been dealing with waves.
Piezoelectric  foil placed on the surface of the earth  was reading mechanical  vibrations coming from  the earth.
The basic principal for this passive reading was to measure speed of  waves coming  from the ground up to our sensor.


Than signal from foil was send to AD converter  than to DOS the signals at  certain spectrum have been send to Fourier analyses and than to photo-styler or any graphic program to get a picture -  cut of ,of the ground to depth  about 2km.  The picture represented all of the tiny  detail because  of
ever existing vibrations created by earth rotation, moon rotation, volcanic and seismic activity, oceans and rivers flow, man kind activity all of the borders between layers ..gravel, clay,rock  in extremely good resolution .


For purpose of FE...one of  conclusions might be friction that creates electric charge between layers?
and we drop to it:
- magnetic field of the earth and colliding magnetic fluxes from solar bodies, cosmic rays...
-friction of the air and electric charge...   
- the differentiation between to environments   air and earth..
-dielectric constant of layers and/or borders of the layers.. ( earth)
all of nonsense  is here to think about it...


short listing of FE causing factors:
-magnetic field
-electric field
- electrostatics charge
- mechanical  vibration
- energy conversion by mechanisms of nature
-seismic activity
-friction


Should I ask the question
3.If power company  delivers electric  charge at frequency 50Hz than we have sinus at wire only or we have sinus at ground as well.
4. If man walking on  the ground when HV wires are  on the ground after storm than
 the resistance or better say impedance of his body between legs  is caring on  DC or 50Hz AC?
- he is far from wires
-the step voltage is there
-electrical conductivity of his body is easier  for the current to flow
-and power company DID NOT delivered DC but AC 50Hz.


5. If two conductors in the circuit have AC 50Hz  when we dealing with floating ground (= no ground)


than when we replace one of conductors with ground we should have  the same properties in that "conductor" as well ... obeying superposition rules

I have had discussion with John my friend he said that DC  caused death as well  only at voltage 600V 600A when man is walking on broken line.
Yes..
But he was dealing with 2m distance and DC is decreasing with distance while power companies send AC over hundreds of miles...
The man resistance ( NOT IMPEDANCE) was easier path between legs than ground.
The man was never  dealing with  zero voltage and maximum current.
So  fellows what is causing tungsten ( volfram) in light bulb to  dissipate energy  into  heat?
Current or voltage?


Could we say that by the means of manipulating  ZERO POINT OF VOLTAGE
TK was able to achieve maximum current and no voltage?

how did he do it?
say by  using standing wave properties.
 


6.So why than the voltage delivered to TK device was  zero after initial impulse and current was  zero.?


At 2004  presentation TK did not have (samozapitka) self looping as of yet . Or he was not presenting it.
His device was similar to Doland Smith device using energy source.
When he pulled  out the plug the device stop to give any response there was no longer light.
but he had a ground wire connected....

The meter used to measure  V/A should be  AC capable to response at frequency of oscillation and at particular the highest pick ( pucziok) of current when voltage is zero of Standing Wave   



Example:
Say I do not have respect to one of you but I have respect to my own wife.
7.Can than anyone measure amount of disrespect to that particular individual
by only knowing me and my wife?
NO you can not connect the V meter between two point if one of the points does not have relation to the point of reference.
You take clamp meter  the current is in the conductor ,the voltage is not but  power equals  ZERO as V is zero than  meter can not show current as well.
Got it?


Yes but  TK device was connected with one wire only ... the ground.....
 I agree..


There is no such thing as one wire powering structure only... NOT by any means!!
The circuit must be closed for the current to flow in AC CIRCUITS.


So what about Abramienko Fork..


Circuit will be always closed loop by means of electromagnetic or electrostatic  coupling.
Yes we are delivering voltage to  one wire only in Abramienko Fork but we dealing with reverse signal path   upon that delivery due to  polarity of diodes.
The circuit closes due to electrostatic mechanism.
Ground=earth is there  or relation  of capacitive coupling between  two is there always.


7.So one say will Abramienko  Fork work in  altitude of 10Km?
Yes it will work.


The difference between ionospheric and ground potential= 45000V
anybody placed in between is under relation into ground  and/or  ionosphere.
When  we increase capacitance  of the body we will create stronger relation .


8.So why the birds do not die on HV lines?
Because the birds are on the same potential with no direct relation (-response) to points of reference.


9. So how to measure the voltage between two points heaving HV potential ( ground and HV wire) not connecting two points?
 We can use electrostatic V-meter.
TK never used electrostatic V meter. And if he did It wil show voltage but we know without any doubts that HV is there ... only what we do not know is points of relation between points 
As we may simply measure between points of known not points of unknown.
Electrostatic charge does not have frequency..It does have polarity and speed of change of polarity.
Electrostatic charge has vector of direction.

Electrostatic charge speed of change is not related to sinusoidal wave but is caused by it.
It is mostly acting as a switch. You can not have  3/4 of polarity positive and 1/4 negative

At the certain point polarity changes rapidly with the speed of light  or speed of electron traveling in given medium.


Electrostatic charge can not have any % of positive and negative potential at one given point of wire due to relation  of that point in wire to ground
it is one or the opposite one at given point in time


O boy... I just found interesting something here...
SWITCH? ??? ??..............
Burst of  energy............
Created by sign wave? ??? ???


...got to think about it..




TK uses HV to create ionization and stronger relation between two environments...
If  there must be always closed circuit than wire of circuit between TK cevice is ground wire and the second one is Electrostatic switch..
In Aquarium and in Green box he used 2 ground wires  heaving distance  between the wires.
correct me if I'm wrong..


But he uses  a lot of load there.


I recall 
-faucet with cold water pipe  that is ground #1
and
-radiator from old automobile deep in to the ground and water poured.   ground # 2

The distance between points of  ground is our conductor that should obey  superposition rule.



10.  Can anyone from you point to me where wires from two grounds have been connected on the device?







I have limited time today so relation of standing wave to the whole structure discussed by me will be explained later





Wesley


 PS: I know that some folks just do not bother to even read this nor understand.
But it is important to read it and try to understand.. without that there is no progress....

This is just about as I see it.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10577 on: February 08, 2012, 08:21:52 PM »



Thank you bboy


John M
Please read finished article it is only part one with no details about standing wave  yet.
You jumped  into the conclusions with unfinished part 1 of article
I specifically pointed in red to do not respond to article in progress of assembly.



Please analyze chart#1 revision # 6


Wesley


Please note that my article is only part 1 finished.
correlation between SW is not yet explained
Please read original article of mine as I have made few additions to it.- supporting my original statements
« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 02:18:20 AM by stivep »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10578 on: February 08, 2012, 09:02:38 PM »
This is my thoughts...



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10579 on: February 08, 2012, 09:11:02 PM »
This is my thoughts...


Thank you shokac my friend


BUT
can you analyze  schematic if
we say that Transformer was Low voltage )12V) to 4 diodes to power  transistors
220V was delivered  to  Can-cylinder to say power the HV flyback hidden inside and /or  voltage multiplier MARX generator


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10580 on: February 08, 2012, 10:13:15 PM »
I still do not get why you guys try do decipher black box of TK when there are enough of material to make own Tesla coil what gives electrostatic charge and where load does not affect input. Starting from page 500 of this thread we gone long chit-chat way and only few people from thousands did really made at least attempts to replicate. So, are you all too lazy or there is another blocking reason from building own circuit...?  ::)

The building rules are very simple to begin with:
1) Make flyback driver what puts flyback transformer into resonance then wind or connect existing free turns to capacitor for free resonant oscillations. 
2) Connect "cold" end of high voltage coil into that resonant LC circuit then tune flyback driver for minimum required power with maximum resonant output (sine wave no matter what input signal is).
3) Make Tesla coil(TC) what runs on AV plug to primary from one wire of flyback transformer while other flyback from flyback LC circuit end goes into secondary and then put it into resonant oscillations, then harvest ionized air from hot end(ionizer)  of TC to capacitor what got spark gap to the load which got grounded another end.
4) Never let spark jump in your ionizer, it kills your resonant circuit!
5) Ensure you are getting trumpet wave inside of TC

When you reach this point, you should have good conditions for OU sweets... :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10581 on: February 08, 2012, 10:17:58 PM »

Thank you shokac my friend


BUT
can you analyze  schematic if
we say that Transformer was Low voltage )12V) to 4 diodes to power  transistors.
220V was delivered  to  Can-cylinder to say power the HV flyback hidden inside and /or  voltage multiplier MARX generator


Wesley

             we say that Transformer was Low voltage )12V) to 4 diodes to power  transistors.
             220V was delivered  to  Can-cylinder to say TRIGERING (with current transformers) (like this:
             http://www.grupopremo.com/fr/new/93/)  the HV flyback hidden inside
             and /or  voltage multiplier MARX generator AND 220V FEED LOAD through ORANGE (L) AND WHITE (N) wire
Answer is YES!!! With modify questions!



             can you analyze  schematic:
First: look this video http://www.youtube.com/user/FreeEnergyLT#p/u/14/lFiaBKW50yA  on 5:55 min. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Voltage is present without laod !!!!!!
Conclusion:
- Resonace i clasical means is not present!!!!!!!!! VERY IMPORTANT
- Voltage 220V is present without LOAD, Grid or inverter voltage is use for primari voltage and curent.


Why use HV
Answer: for pump current in clasical 220V circuit, but hi must be in faze with grid or inverter circuit (Kapandze this is called rezonace between primary and secundary winding)

HV make HI current (free electron from air)
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANCoPJpCQOs&context=C3cfcf10ADOEgsToPDskIhntBfjFsQfsFe_Prgh7kr


This is simple solution.

Regards!
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 11:22:32 PM by Shokac »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10582 on: February 08, 2012, 10:43:10 PM »
I still do not get why you guys try do decipher black box of TK when there are enough of material to make own Tesla coil what gives electrostatic charge and where load does not affect input. Starting from page 500 of this thread we gone long chit-chat way and only few people from thousands did really made at least attempts to replicate. So, are you all too lazy or there is another blocking reason from building own circuit...?  ::)

The building rules are very simple to begin with:
1) Make flyback driver what puts flyback transformer into resonance then wind or connect existing free turns to capacitor for free resonant oscillations. 
2) Connect "cold" end of high voltage coil into that resonant LC circuit then tune flyback driver for minimum required power with maximum resonant output (sine wave no matter what input signal is).
3) Make Tesla coil(TC) what runs on AV plug to primary from one wire of flyback transformer while other flyback from flyback LC circuit end goes into secondary and then put it into resonant oscillations, then harvest ionized air from hot end(ionizer)  of TC to capacitor what got spark gap to the load which got grounded another end.
4) Never let spark jump in your ionizer, it kills your resonant circuit!
5) Ensure you are getting trumpet wave inside of TC

When you reach this point, you should have good conditions for OU sweets... :)

T-1000 - This is what I am looking for. Basic steps without too much theory or what ever in between. I don't want to sound too stupid, but when I read you description I am not sure if I got it all right. Could you please post diagrams to further explain it?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10583 on: February 08, 2012, 11:46:32 PM »
I think I get why there is chit-chat...


No one has yet managed to independently replicate power out of the caduceus (and claims about the new ion thingy have not been made yet) but several skilled people have tried.


Failed replications are like a poison in this field, it only takes a few and parts stop being ordered and people hop back up on the fence.
'They' likely know this and use it from time to time to reduce our inclination to build.


If I knew what to do to get probable FE especially looping as easily as you make it sound T-1000 I'd be building and ordering right away.


So anyway back to chit-chat, I have claimed that unlimited energy can be received by an antenna that has a high Q receiving an EM wave.


The thing that proves it to me is that if we look at the generator or transformer analogies of this we see that there must be extra energy due to the fact that there is also definitely extra loading on the input, either energy is being destroyed or we have more energy induced into the rotor/secondary.


No one can argue that putting more current through a DC generator (in the direction that it is a generator not a motor) will not cause more mechanical loading.


And to be honest, this extra loading might impact on the transmitter if we have it close enough.
At the same time it is obviously impossible to load a transmitter that is now off.
Also some antennas have a very low radiation resistance, and we can use a directional transmitter but a receiver that is less directional.


I have spent time thinking about resonant circuits and antennas and the conclusion I have come to is that an air core coil can't act as an antenna normally (mostly).


You need the ferrite that is magnetized by the incoming wave which increases it's magnetic field, otherwise the flux inside and outside the coil is pointing in the same direction, this means no induction. But the field generated by the core returns outside the wires.


The limit with this is that the magnetic field from the coil will saturate the ferrite and since the self induction is high the field generated by the coil will be closer to 180 degrees than is ideal.
More turns means more voltage from the ferrite loop antenna, but it compromises the current that can flow.


The other thoughts I had was that maybe this is how a number of free energy devices work, at least in part.


For instance a swiftly collapsing magnetic field have a very very high maximum frequency.
The higher the frequency the smaller the near-field and the sooner we are talking about photons and wave waves, free radiation.


So one thought is that a collapsing current provides extra energy, perhaps that is because it creates EM radiation in the surroundings and if the environment is suited this is reflected by metal and induces energy back into the coil, and if there is current flowing in the right direction in the coil this would add a lot of energy.
But what would cause this current? Capacitance, bifilar winding anyone?


Consider the Newman motor, for some reason that makes no sense at all (until now) when the coil is open circuited a pulse of current flows in the reverse direction? ???
This seems in direct opposition to the expected action of the current trying to maintain it's self.


The voltage required for a spike of current to form in a high impedance coil like that is enormous, it can only be induced directly in the coil, outside of the coil would lead to a breakdown of the insulation and arc over.
But what if the collapsing field induced current in the surroundings that reflected back to the source?  This would indeed be in this negative direction.


But the success would be better in a metal shed or some place that will reflect the energy back, actually I think that is where Newman ran his most effective motor/generator.


The other thought is that when you have devices like Hendershot with coils and capacitors together you have in effect a synthesized wave.
This could be acting like a crossed field antenna, actually maybe that is what all this HV with magnetic fields is doing?


By mixing electric and magnetic fields in the right way you can apparently create something called a crossed field antenna, there is even a hint at it being overunity as a transmitter.













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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10584 on: February 09, 2012, 01:19:44 AM »
Hi, Hartiberlin everyone,
Interesting that TK self runs his unit by feeding the output 220v to 12v rectified (transformer in leather box) then feeds this to 12v 220v inverter and back in. Then removes battery. I think if this was not important then he would simply do as most people and feed the output direct to input.
Regards
Keith

Yes, that is a very valid question !

One answer could be, that in this black box is also some kind of power control device, that not too much power
is fed to the inverter 12 Volts input..

Another explanation would be, that this box could contain an accumulator or a stack of high capacity Li-Ion batteries
and then it is faked this way , that this black box is just the real power supply ?

Buit I don´t think so as the 220 Volts cable from the inverter to the coil is just to small to power
the 5 KWatts load... so the power must be created inside his special coil.

He also build all the other devices and also the 100 KW Unit worked in this 3 Phase setup, so to generate 48 KWatts of power as
there was shown in this later unit, would not work with such small hidden batteries...over such a lomg time...

So I guess in the black box might also be a current limiter for the 12 Volts DC output.
When he connected the blacj box to the accumulator, he measured about 6.5 Amps going into the battery
from this black box, so at 12 Volts this is a power level of about:
78 Watts.

ALso very interesting was the fact, that when he removed  from the lightblue colored inverter box the 220 Volts plug,
the lights did not went out immediately, but only about a half seond later...

So this unit must be running at a pretty high output to input power amplification ratio
and/or have some caps somewhere for the energy storage.

Also when the measured the output from the 220 Volts inverter at around 0.3 amps and the output amps at the 220 Volts
side at the bulbs at around 26 amps you see that this is a power amplification factor of around
86 ! So a whopping COP of 86 !

The next question is, how he generates 220 Volts at 50 Hz from the coil there ?

This circuit must be inside the round box, as only it drives the coil with the 2 transistors seen on the 2 black heat sinks there...

Maybe it is not a real 50 Hz 220 Volts sine output wave, but a 220 Volts wave with some high frequency carrier and 50 Hz modulated.

I have read that Tarial Kapanadze did not use a scope in his workshop ? Is this info correct ?
I wonder how he then managed to get the coil output to match the 220 Volts 50 Hz waveform ?

Without a scope such a task is almost impossible I guess... ?

So is TK able to use a scope  ?


As this coil is so easy to see in this video from the 28th of April 2004, too bad, that we don´t have any scopeshot of the output waveform,
that would really help to pin the main function principle down ?

Did TK ever show any scopeshots yet somewhere ?
Or does anybody have a picture or video of a scopeshot from the real Tarial devices ?


Regards, Stefan.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10584 on: February 09, 2012, 01:19:44 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10585 on: February 09, 2012, 01:26:11 AM »
"3) Make Tesla coil(TC) what runs on AV plug to primary from one wire of flyback transformer while other flyback from flyback LC circuit end goes into secondary and then put it into resonant oscillations, then harvest ionized air from hot end(ionizer)  of TC to capacitor what got spark gap to the load which got grounded another end."

Those abbreviations killing me!
 
What AV and LC stand for? :D :D ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10586 on: February 09, 2012, 01:48:15 AM »
AV= Avramenko plug= 2 diodes and 1 capacitor put on 1 Wire high frequency AC carrying wire,
results in DC voltage output on the capacitor.

LC = Coil and capacitor put in parallel= LC tank circuit.


P.S:


1. Wesley or anybody who visited Kapanadze , did you ever see
Kapanadze use a scope and did you see any scopeshot of the output
waveform that powers the lightbulbs ?


2. What is said about the core of the coil in the April 2004 video ?

Is this just plstic or are there ferrite rings in there or a aluminium or copper tube
in there or ferrite loudspeaker like magnets ?

Did TK ever say or hinted or showed to anybody what his core consists of what material ?

3. Are you sure he used copper wire for all his coils or could he have used also green plastic isolated
garden iron wire ?

This last question is very important, so read my next posting please !


Regards, Stefan.

P.S: Wesley, I think you are do much too complicated theories over here. I think the
secret is much simpler...
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10587 on: February 09, 2012, 02:05:40 AM »
User Microcontroller shed a very important light onto the main function
principle of the whole energy amplification process with this posting:


Iron-56 (56Fe) is the most common isotope of iron.
About 91.754% of all iron is iron-56.
Iron (Fe) consists of four isotopes:54Fe,56Fe,57Fe and 58Fe.

This point is also where the whole dream alters since Steven Mark (and we) were always assuming the thing would run forever, but if iron56 is it's fuel it will run out, eventually.
Luckily we got 91.754% of all iron to go. 

What's important to note here is that alternating magnetic fields running at certain specific frequencies can alter nuclear conversion between the elements thereby releasing energy.
Steven Mark was dead on with his words about the atomic energy commission and the connection with his device.
I won't go into any detail about how this mechanism works but i can tell you that when this 'nuclear event' happens small bursts of high energy (y-rays) are the result.

This is what Steven Mark observed in his very first experiments and he rightfully called them kicks.
Notice this has got nothing to do with the earths magnetic field, but he had no idea about what was going on.

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Okay, now we know, that IF WE USE IRON WIRE we could get this radioactive decay when excited by magnetic or electromagnetic pulses
or sparkgap pulses !

So I guess when Tariel found this huge COP = 86  effect, he fiddled around with Tesla coils and had no copper wire and just had some iron wire laying around
and used this for this Tesla coil and suddenly saw bursts of pulses on his iron wires...

I think he then put his isolated iron wire into this 5 turn holow copper coil and pulsed the iron wire  with High voltage pulses from his sparkgap.
This releases many gamma ray bursts from the iron wire and excites the radioactive decay and also releases beta decay, which are perpendicular
(90 degrees to the wire) flying out free electrons. ( charged negatively).
These electrons are then captured on the big 5 turn holow copper tube coil and thus this coil charges up very fast very highly negatively.
Thus drawing this potential from this coil versus the other coil components we can draw then a pretty high power level and also these gamma ray bursts will
induce magnetic ossillations inside the other coils wound around there.

So I guess the real power source and the huge COP= 86 is due to the radioactive decay excited by the sparkgap firing the high voltage
pulses onto the iron wire.


I can think of no real other explanation than this at this huge COP overunity factor.

All the other videos I have seen on youtube, where people tried to rebuild the Kapanadze devices
with just copper coils and no iron wire in it, deliver never these huge COP factors, maybe only 1.5
at maximum or maybe 2 at maximum, but never COP= 86 !

That is, because they did not use Iron wire and so did not use this radioactive decay of the iron
isotops ?

Can somebody, who has a working Tesla coil can modify his coil to use iron wire in it and
wrap a bit alufoil around it and see, if this alufoil will charge up very fast and deliver real power
versus the ground pole ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10588 on: February 09, 2012, 02:37:58 AM »
Roberto, it is very fortunate to have someone to ham it up with.
Your knowledge of transmission and reception should help if you don't let it hinder.


Let's look at the EH antenna [size=78%]http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_HZ.pdf[/size]


We can see that this phases capacitive HV with magnetic fields in the right phase to mix EM waves.
One of the concepts with this appears to be (though I'm not totally clear) is that in normal antennas it is a difference in the rate of transmission between magnetic and electric fields that cause the fields to reach the correct phase some distance away.


This includes the someone unusual claim that magnetic fields propagate instantaneously.


That has to be taken with a grain of salt, anyway it seems that correct phasing of these electric and magnetic fields can create dramatically increased radiation resistance.


Also interesting is that in this antenna is a different topology of apparent radiation that is separate from the usual spectrum and can pass through an aluminium shield.


Anyway the gist of this is that by correctly phasing and crossing electric and magnetic fields it might be possible to have little near-field and plenty of emitted radiation.


To test this it is ideal to create a highly directional highly efficient transmitter and then capture the wave in a well selected high Q resonant antenna.


This should readily lead to over-unity.


Maybe we could design something, sure wish I had a signal generator right now.


So how do we capture as close to 100% as possible?
Thoughts of satellite dishes and wave-guides are running through my head.


Frequency?  if directional radiation or waveguides are used then I'd guess frequencies of 75mhz minimum, otherwise 50khz to 10mhz sounds fine, but only if you can limit the size of the nearfield, we want to avoid transformer action.


Trying to gain overunity from only a portion of the emitted wave is going to be hard, so either it must be encircled by antennas or a way to focus the radiation.


Need an antenna expert.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10589 on: February 09, 2012, 03:04:08 AM »
Stefan, thank you for explaining the abbreviations.  Also, I think you in to something about using the metal core in the TK coil. Trough my experiences dealing with industrial electromagnets  the core always was soft annealed metal. As per your suggestion to stuff the insulated black iron wire into the copper tube is definitely worth trying, except who sells a small quantity of 2mm dia wire of this kind?

Cheers.. ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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