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Offline stivep

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10560 on: February 07, 2012, 11:49:02 PM »
@Wesley/stivep



2. You said that working with the caduceus causes some problems with health. Did you try to close the magnetic field with some other ferrite/iron (+some paper)?





best wishes
[skaarj]


not with caduceus but  with ferrite  from deflection yoke of old TV
That was  strong headache
With caduceus I did not notice any side effects


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10561 on: February 08, 2012, 03:06:33 AM »


Iron-56 (56Fe) is the most common isotope of iron.
About 91.754% of all iron is iron-56.
Iron (Fe) consists of four isotopes:54Fe,56Fe,57Fe and 58Fe.

This point is also where the whole dream alters since Steven Mark (and we) were always assuming the thing would run forever, but if iron56 is it's fuel it will run out, eventually.
Luckily we got 91.754% of all iron to go. 

What's important to note here is that alternating magnetic fields running at certain specific frequencies can alter nuclear conversion between the elements thereby releasing energy.
Steven Mark was dead on with his words about the atomic energy commission and the connection with his device.
I won't go into any detail about how this mechanism works but i can tell you that when this 'nuclear event' happens small bursts of high energy (y-rays) are the result.

This is what Steven observed in his very first experiments and he rightfully called them kicks.
Notice this has got nothing to do with the earths magnetic field, but he had no idea about what was going on.


So what do you think would be the easiest way to generate these Kicks effectively ?

Many thanks.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10562 on: February 08, 2012, 03:10:39 AM »

I want to recover and expand my recent realization about how energy is received in resonant circuits.

But for a moment let's try something a little easier to grasp.


Let's say you have a DC generator and you increase the gap between the stator magnets and the rotor, the voltage induced into the rotor will reduce greatly.


You will have less voltage being produced at a given RPM.
One way of increasing the power created by the generator is to connect it with a high current power source.
How will putting in extra current help generate more? Well the voltage provided by the generator is now adding to a greater number of amps which means more energy out.


Of course this isn't free, increasing the rotors magnetic field will increase the negative motoring force.


We could do the same thing with an AC generator, just put a tuned capacitor in the circuit.


This is all well and good, but what does it have to do with free energy I hear you asking.


Well while learning how to gain more energy from a given voltage induced is nice, I think there is a Free Energy implication!


As far as I can tell, practical limits aside you could gain any amount of energy by simply putting in more amps, true in the above generator analogies you have to put in more energy to keep it rotating.


If we did the same thing with a transformer, we would get the same effects, more energy out but an equivilant loading on the input.



BUT, What if we are recieving free EM waves?


Rather than coupling to a near field. what if we picked up emitted radiation, what is the cost there?


Interestingly, I can't find one!


The EM wave has been created with a given unit of energy, but does that mean you can only gain that energy from it?


If more amps are flowing as the wave/photon induces it's voltage, then it induces more energy than if it was in an unexcited state it would seem.


So here we seem to have a loophole.


The only catches I can foresee is that either the receiving coil/wire may end up radiating it's self (though seemingly still OU).
And if it does might that wave travel back to the source and try to destroy energy there?
Of course it can't do that, the source could be an astronomical distance away and stopped existing eons ago.


So this seems quite a lot like Don Smith, maybe he was on to something.


My problem with this is that it doesn't employ the aether (unless photons do) and I kinda doubt free energy will show up without employing the aether.


Interestingly the circuit diagram posted above could (once some tuning elements are added) make this work!
If it was tuned to frequencies that have an abundance of power (500khz was used by Prentace) and if the ionizer regulated it's frequency and phase (triggered by incoming waves) so that it was in tune with the incoming waves then you have it.


That of course is not the same thing as easy, this requires either a very high Q circuit or some input power sacrificed to get enough current to oscillate in the tank.

What is interesting is that once you have the frequency and phase high with enough current in the tank you don't need really need the power signal to be much more dominant  than the rest of the background, different frequencies will have minor impact of adding and subtracting bits of energy randomly but it requires frequency and phase to be correct for it to have an impact on power.


I'd really like to hear some opinion on this, including if you understood it or not and if you agree or not.


Thanks.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10563 on: February 08, 2012, 06:07:35 AM »
This is interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkaIirh84aT0

A slow motion video of moving the transformer reveals
behind it that there might be a cable inside the big copper tube
with the around 5 windings ?

Or is it just the connection from the capacitor laying there on the table ?

On another picture I just saw the big copper coil looks pretty like flat wire,
not a holow tube...Hmm...


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10564 on: February 08, 2012, 06:16:46 AM »
Okay, let us try to make a circuit digramm from the 28th of April 2004 movie.

Look at the attached picture I found in the Russian forum.

The black box at the left, which is located in the movie below the table,
is a transformer with 4 diodes I have read.
So it is a bigger 220 Volts to 12 Volts AC to DC comverter which drives the battery and
the inverter.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10565 on: February 08, 2012, 06:19:50 AM »
This is the black box located under the table in the video opened and
on the table in another video.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10566 on: February 08, 2012, 06:37:08 AM »
Here are a few more pictures to ponder about:

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10567 on: February 08, 2012, 06:46:24 AM »
more pictures to ponder about:

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10568 on: February 08, 2012, 06:47:45 AM »
more pictures to ponder about:

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10569 on: February 08, 2012, 08:23:52 AM »
Hi hartiberlin Hi All

I have a think about the work of Tariel Kapanadze equipment to everyone contributing add comments:

- Oscillation frequency is chosen will be amplified by the Transistor or MOSFET and lead to the primary coil resonance,from the primary coil will be extracted to a feedback pulse,this pulse is a positive component generate positive phase than advance phase of the source of oscillations.( The purpose of the advance phase is to make the kick coil resonance force reaches maximum amplitude)
- Material primary oscillator coil need to use large diameter copper tubes and pipes should be silver plated to reduce resistance of the coil and can it have special effects such as device of TK. (May think coil of copper tube TK were plated in silver side)

   That's just my thoughts about the device's TK. . .
It could be because the resonance in the coil reaches the maximum amplitude occurs, the device TK overheating when it's working!

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« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 10:47:28 AM by havuhung »

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« Reply #10570 on: February 08, 2012, 10:41:55 AM »
@wattsup,

..."BUT, What if we are recieving free EM waves? Rather than coupling to a near field. what if we picked up emitted radiation, what is the cost there?
Interestingly, I can't find one!
The EM wave has been created with a given unit of energy, but does that mean you can only gain that energy from it?
If more amps are flowing as the wave/photon induces it's voltage, then it induces more energy than if it was in an unexcited state it would seem.
So here we seem to have a loophole.
The only catches I can foresee is that either the receiving coil/wire may end up radiating it's self (though seemingly still OU).
And if it does might that wave travel back to the source and try to destroy energy there?
Of course it can't do that, the source could be an astronomical distance away and stopped existing eons ago."...

 
Thanks for expliciting a part of my thought. What you wroyte let me remember a trick that at the time rised lot of curiosity among the many worldwide RF enthusiastic. You know that every RF receiver needs an antenna to operatte as expected. The antenna generally must be dimensioned at minimum around 1/4 wave lenght of the incoming signal in order to catch it efficiently. It is also well known that continuos research performed for increasing the antenna gain going for multiple full wavelenght or using different geometries in order to increase gain, directionality, multi frequency operation, etc.

One edge way to increase gain is therefore to use big and bigger area in order to increase the signal vs noise. The genius way found has been that to ionize a huge area of space by using a transmitter carrier tuned to the same receiver frequency (of course all is phased in order to avoid TX to enter into Rx input and disrupt it...much like what happens with radar). In such a case the receiver gets an equivalent enormous antenna space that enhances the input signal at max.

So, the ionized space is used as a way to catch both the local generated wave AND all the Radio-frequency permeating the surroundings. In the referenced post the 'ion wind' generated by the tesla coils could in my opinion develops a similar situation perhaps allowing extra energies to enter into the actual circuit. Please remember that RF density around us is to be considered quite high due the the contemporaneus presence of thousands of RF generators (medium waves tx, short waves tx, microwaves tx, HV distribution lines, WiFi, cellulars net, all radiating mostly H24). Evaluating the extra amount is almost impossible, nevertheless one could have a big surprise! (remember the HV lines not far from SM's house?
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10571 on: February 08, 2012, 12:47:23 PM »
Hi, Hartiberlin everyone,
Interesting that TK self runs his unit by feeding the output 220v to 12v rectified (transformer in leather box) then feeds this to 12v 220v inverter and back in. Then removes battery. I think if this was not important then he would simply do as most people and feed the output direct to input.
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10572 on: February 08, 2012, 04:12:27 PM »
How TK device might work based on theory.
Lets call it








  Guthia- Wesley  Theory.

             part 1




The reason for it is that Guthia from Georgia who is not associated with TK and he never seen him although both  are from Tbilisi have had conversation with me for quite few hours.
He was trying to explain his thoughts to others and nobody would understand him.


At first it will look like I'm giving you complete nonsense.
for that I need you to think as if the nonsense is not nonsense.




1.Does surface of the earth have sine waves and/or  is able to carry on electrical waves?
do not confuse  this question with  question  #2




2. Does the earth responds to waveform?
Well of course it does.
Lets think for the moment that I was sometime  ago say (10 or more years) a Principal Investigator at number of scientific , government sponsored programs NASA Darpa
DoD ....and president of scientific entity located in WTC1... (for these who do not know.. go to Dr Judy Wood and John H ..)
We have been dealing with waves.
Piezoelectric  foil placed on the surface of the earth  was reading mechanical  vibrations coming from  the earth.
The basic principal for this passive reading was to measure speed of  waves coming  from the ground up to our sensor.


Than signal from foil was send to AD converter  than to DOS the signals at  certain spectrum have been send to Fourier analyses and than to photo-styler or any graphic program to get a picture -  cut of ,of the ground to depth  about 2km.  The picture represented all of the tiny  detail because  of
ever existing vibrations created by earth rotation, moon rotation, volcanic and seismic activity, oceans and rivers flow, man kind activity all of the borders between layers ..gravel, clay,rock  in extremely good resolution .


For purpose of FE...one of  conclusions might be friction that creates electric charge between layers?
and we drop to it:
- magnetic field of the earth and colliding magnetic fluxes from solar bodies, cosmic rays...
-friction of the air and electric charge...   
- the differentiation between to environments   air and earth..
-dielectric constant of layers and/or borders of the layers.. ( earth)
all of nonsense  is here to think about it...


short listing of FE causing factors:
-magnetic field
-electric field
- electrostatics charge
- mechanical  vibration
- energy conversion by mechanisms of nature
-seismic activity
-friction


Should I ask the question
3.If power company  delivers electric  charge at frequency 50Hz than we have sinus at wire only or we have sinus at ground as well.
4. If man walking on  the ground when HV wires are  on the ground after storm than
 the resistance or better say impedance of his body between legs  is caring on  DC or 50Hz AC?
- he is far from wires
-the step voltage is there
-electrical conductivity of his body is easier  for the current to flow
-and power company DID NOT delivered DC but AC 50Hz.


4a. If AC voltage is present between legs of the man is that AC wave shape  sinusoidal?


If we give answer YES than we confirm that rest of the structure of the earth  between  HV wire and the man  caries on AC sinusoidal signal
By that we conforming superposition of properties of AC signal in conductor including earth.

Please memorize that and analyse  it





5. If two conductors in the circuit have AC 50Hz  when we dealing with floating ground (= no ground)


than when we replace one of conductors with ground we should have  the same properties in that "conductor" as well ... obeying superposition rules

I have had discussion with John my friend he said that DC  caused death as well  only at voltage 600V 600A when man is walking on broken line.
Yes..
But he was dealing with 2m distance and DC is decreasing with distance while power companies send AC over hundreds of miles...
The man resistance ( NOT IMPEDANCE) was easier path between legs than ground.
The man was never  dealing with  zero voltage and maximum current.
So  fellows what is causing tungsten ( volfram) in light bulb to  dissipate energy  into  heat?
Current or voltage?


Could we say that by the means of manipulating  ZERO POINT OF VOLTAGE
TK was able to achieve maximum current and no voltage?

how did he do it?
say by  using standing wave properties.
 


6.So why than the voltage delivered to TK device was  zero after initial impulse and current was  zero.?


At 2004  presentation TK did not have (samozapitka) self looping as of yet . Or he was not presenting it.
His device was similar to Doland Smith device using energy source.
When he pulled  out the plug the device stop to give any response there was no longer light.
but he had a ground wire connected....

The meter used to measure  V/A should be  AC capable to response at frequency of oscillation and at particular the highest pick ( pucziok) of current when voltage is zero of Standing Wave 


That should be DIP METER not any regular clamp V/A meter. 



Example:
Say I do not have respect to one of you but I have respect to my own wife.
7.Can than anyone measure amount of disrespect to that particular individual
by only knowing me and my wife?
NO you can not connect the V meter between two point if one of the points does not have relation to the point of reference.
You take clamp meter  the current is in the conductor ,the voltage is not but  power equals  ZERO as V is zero than  meter can not show current as well.
Got it?


Yes but  TK device was connected with one wire only ... the ground.....
 I agree..


There is no such thing as one wire powering structure only... NOT by any means!!
The circuit must be closed for the current to flow in AC CIRCUITS.


So what about Abramienko Fork..


Circuit will be always closed loop by means of electromagnetic or electrostatic  coupling.
Yes we are delivering voltage to  one wire only in Abramienko Fork but we dealing with reverse signal path   upon that delivery due to  polarity of diodes.
The circuit closes due to electrostatic mechanism.
Ground=earth is there  or relation  of capacitive coupling between  two is there always.


7.So one say will Abramienko  Fork work in  altitude of 10Km?
Yes it will work.


The difference between ionospheric and ground potential= 45000V
anybody placed in between is under relation into ground  and/or  ionosphere.
When  we increase capacitance  of the body we will create stronger relation .


8.So why the birds do not die on HV lines?
Because the birds are on the same potential with no direct relation (-response) to points of reference.


9. So how to measure the voltage between two points heaving HV potential ( ground and HV wire) not connecting two points?
 We can use electrostatic V-meter.
TK never used electrostatic V meter. And if he did It wil show voltage but we know without any doubts that HV is there ... only what we do not know is points of relation between points 
As we may simply measure between points of known not points of unknown.
Electrostatic charge does not have frequency..It does have polarity and speed of change of polarity.
Electrostatic charge has vector of direction.

Electrostatic charge speed of change is not related to sinusoidal wave but is caused by it.
It is mostly acting as a switch. You can not have  3/4 of polarity positive and 1/4 negative

At the certain point polarity changes rapidly with the speed of light  or speed of electron traveling in given medium.


Electrostatic charge can not have any % of positive and negative potential at one given point of wire due to relation  of that point in wire to ground
it is one or the opposite one at given point in time


O boy... I just found interesting something here...
SWITCH? ??? ??..............
Burst of  energy............
Created by sign wave? ??? ???


...got to think about it..




TK uses HV to create ionization and stronger relation between two environments...
If  there must be always closed circuit than wire of circuit between TK cevice is ground wire and the second one is Electrostatic switch..
In Aquarium and in Green box he used 2 ground wires  heaving distance  between the wires.
correct me if I'm wrong..


But he uses  a lot of load there.


I recall 
-faucet with cold water pipe  that is ground #1
and
-radiator from old automobile deep in to the ground and water poured.   ground # 2

The distance between points of  ground is our conductor that should obey  superposition rule.



10.  Can anyone from you point to me where wires from two grounds have been connected on the device?







I have limited time today so relation of standing wave to the whole structure discussed by me will be explained later





Wesley


 PS: I know that some folks just do not bother to even read this nor understand.
But it is important to read it and try to understand.. without that there is no progress....
« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 02:19:18 AM by stivep »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10573 on: February 08, 2012, 05:38:02 PM »
@wattsup,

..."BUT, What if we are recieving free EM waves? Rather than coupling to a near field. what if we picked up emitted radiation, what is the cost there?
Interestingly, I can't find one!
The EM wave has been created with a given unit of energy, but does that mean you can only gain that energy from it?
If more amps are flowing as the wave/photon induces it's voltage, then it induces more energy than if it was in an unexcited state it would seem.
So here we seem to have a loophole.
The only catches I can foresee is that either the receiving coil/wire may end up radiating it's self (though seemingly still OU).
And if it does might that wave travel back to the source and try to destroy energy there?
Of course it can't do that, the source could be an astronomical distance away and stopped existing eons ago."...

 
Thanks for expliciting a part of my thought. What you wroyte let me remember a trick that at the time rised lot of curiosity among the many worldwide RF enthusiastic. You know that every RF receiver needs an antenna to operatte as expected. The antenna generally must be dimensioned at minimum around 1/4 wave lenght of the incoming signal in order to catch it efficiently. It is also well known that continuos research performed for increasing the antenna gain going for multiple full wavelenght or using different geometries in order to increase gain, directionality, multi frequency operation, etc.

One edge way to increase gain is therefore to use big and bigger area in order to increase the signal vs noise. The genius way found has been that to ionize a huge area of space by using a transmitter carrier tuned to the same receiver frequency (of course all is phased in order to avoid TX to enter into Rx input and disrupt it...much like what happens with radar). In such a case the receiver gets an equivalent enormous antenna space that enhances the input signal at max.

So, the ionized space is used as a way to catch both the local generated wave AND all the Radio-frequency permeating the surroundings. In the referenced post the 'ion wind' generated by the tesla coils could in my opinion develops a similar situation perhaps allowing extra energies to enter into the actual circuit. Please remember that RF density around us is to be considered quite high due the the contemporaneus presence of thousands of RF generators (medium waves tx, short waves tx, microwaves tx, HV distribution lines, WiFi, cellulars net, all radiating mostly H24). Evaluating the extra amount is almost impossible, nevertheless one could have a big surprise! (remember the HV lines not far from SM's house?
Roberto
Hi Ronotte! Thanks for sharing your ideas :)
Could you explain me what are "TX to enter into Rx input", what means these letters please?
Cheer.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10574 on: February 08, 2012, 06:58:56 PM »
Okay, let us try to make a circuit digramm from the 28th of April 2004 movie.

Look at the attached picture I found in the Russian forum.

The black box at the left, which is located in the movie below the table,
is a transformer with 4 diodes I have read.
So it is a bigger 220 Volts to 12 Volts AC to DC comverter which drives the battery and
the inverter.




Thanks.That is interesting schematic and very close to what delamorto  used. One thing is however very suspicious. What is the purpose of thick cable coil with spark gap ? In delamorto it was used to align ferrite domains, effectively demagnetize core and coil was very near to the core. I don't think that was possible in kapanadze ,even if the tube inside would be ferrite (it is not, probably) - the distance between thick coil and core inside is too far.

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