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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 10721594 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10545 on: February 06, 2012, 01:16:51 PM »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10546 on: February 06, 2012, 03:33:01 PM »
could one say that the earth's core is highly energetic?

what is the earth's core made of?
 
would a huge energetic mass at the center of our planet cause materials with the same atomic elements in other,
more accessible, parts of the world to have a propensity to become energetic as well?

thanks.

take care.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10547 on: February 06, 2012, 04:56:15 PM »
@Wesley/stivep


1. Thanks for reply. I really thought you ignored me. Now I do not think that anymore. I have been fixing old TVs (rubin102, temp) since I was 8 years old so I think I know some stuff. I will keep working. I have some big big iron screws at work place  (arouund 80 mm diameter), now they are covered in snow but when weather becomes more friendly I will find them and try to see the effects in the caduceus experiment.


2. You said that working with the caduceus causes some problems with health. Did you try to close the magnetic field with some other ferrite/iron (+some paper)?


3. Does this link help you in improving your setup?
Linden Experiment (google) - http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/lindenexp.htm
please read it carefully, analyse and see if this thing can help you.




best wishes
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10548 on: February 06, 2012, 10:41:04 PM »
Hi all,
The device designed by Wesley and his group is rather unique among several possible solutions: V. Utkin detailed the other solutions.

I Think interesting to share some observations:

1 - Caduceus resonating. In the beginning I tried to resonate it as I saw some increase in output. At the end I'm discovering that leaving it broadband (as it is and even if it does show resonance when put in the real circuit due to the other components attached) perhaps is better. Anyway the caduceus could be swapped with equal efficiency with either a bifilar serial connected coil or a bifilar pancake like I did with my 'pancake' version of the device itself. The purpose of the bifilar or Caduceus coil organization is to create a 'delta Dirac' high energy pulse that charge the interwinding bifilar or caduceus capacitance: so giving way to free quadratic voltage increase of output trumpet. The load on trumpet wave is not seen by the primary due to presence of a free secondary a la Utkin: hence there should be no load problem.

2 - Output power. Here is the problem. The trumpet wave that in my case reached during some run up to 1.3KVpp does contain, at least in my case,  little power. The repetition rate being 200-300Hz. The low available 'mean or rms power' is also low due to high mismatch between the source (pickup coil) and the load (two in series connected 220V/60W bulbs). All is complicated by the SG2 that outputs only a 200nsec 1KV pulses at 300Hz rate...good to charge a cap...but nothing near real power. Actually It (the load) does not kill the output as 'trumpet' remains as before (SG2 isolates the pickup coil output for 99.9% of the time).

Alternative output ways: mach the impedances, eliminate the SG2, use of an output pulse transformer....but, as long as the output rate so low...nothing is going to be good as long as output duty cycle so low!

I could go on for all the day, but I'd like to hear your observations. TNX

Roberto


I think that one issue is important to understand, and that is what is happening electrically in that Caduceus.
I have simulated a variation of the circuit in falstad java sim and the trumpet (though not concave or even) was produced.


It was creating the trumpet without and tank circuit, just because the capacitor was charging up and able to absorb less and less of the voltage, so more of it appeared on the scope till the spark gap fired discharging the capacitor.


So this and other things indicate that the trumpet can have a mundane and underunity cause.
However if a tank circuit is operating as a tank circuit at it's resonant frequency and showing a rising amplitude then that is more interesting and suggests overunity.


Therefore it is important to establish if it is a large circulating current going through a caduceus operating at it's resonant frequency (likely flux inductively from the ferrite flyback as explain in my previous post).
Or just a no power hv that is coming from the HV source.


So, is there a large circulating current in the tank circuit?


My suggestion is that the Russian Flyback with it's interesting features is creating a better flux source that is providing real power for Wesley.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10549 on: February 06, 2012, 11:22:15 PM »
This is my little Tesla coil.  The input is 20.2V ,1,13A DC . The output is 54.5V RMS, 0.54A RMS at 462.6KHz.
 I use 0.6mm thin plastic tube for the coil of 300 turns. The copper tube inside must be close to this coil.
 I believe in need a bigger coil with 500-600 turns.
Hi conico!
It's the very first time I see someone caring about RMS measurement! Very Well Done for doing it!  :D 8)
Cheer, Khwartz.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10550 on: February 06, 2012, 11:27:29 PM »
Looks like Energeticforum is down.  It says that it's site domain needs to be renewed. Someone forgot to pay the light bill :)


It's now back up...
 
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 01:52:47 AM by nightwind »

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« Reply #10551 on: February 07, 2012, 02:02:42 AM »
I just realized how a radio receives so much more energy by being tuned.



The current circulating in the tank at it's resonant frequency in an ideal circuit requires no energy to maintain.


The build up of current in the tank circuit means that if any voltage is added from an incoming wave it adds more energy.


So if you have a circulating current of 1 micro amp and you add 45mv of potential then you have added some very very very tiny portion of energy to the tank circuit.
However if the tank circuit has a high, a super high Q and it has built up to a current of 20,000 amps then 45mv means you gain 900w.


The voltage induced in the tank circuit hasn't changed, what has change is the current that voltages has been added to.


So how come a feeble incoming emf can create such impossibly high currents (in my thought experiment anyway)?


Why doesn't the inductor cancel it as happens in a transformer where the secondary can't create a stronger field than the primary?


Answer: the capacitor keeps the phase from being at 180 degrees so it never cancels the incoming EMF.


This stuff has bugged me for ages, this might be common knowledge to some, but I've just grokked it.


So what does this tell us about free energy?


It verifies that my post back a few weeks ago was correct, having large currents circulate in a tank circuit does increase the energy received!
And that a capacitor can keep the phase of current through an inductor from being too near to 180 degrees to the incoming wave.


So to increase energy you must establish large circulating currents (which increases the energy induced without increasing the EMF) and employ more capacitance than impedance in the circuit.


This explains something I had read once, someone who made a winning crystal radio was saying that you are better off with a big capacitor and a small inductor, only they were not sure why it worked.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10552 on: February 07, 2012, 03:47:27 AM »
I just realized how a radio receives so much more energy by being tuned.



The current circulating in the tank at it's resonant frequency in an ideal circuit requires no energy to maintain.


The build up of current in the tank circuit means that if any voltage is added from an incoming wave it adds more energy.


So if you have a circulating current of 1 micro amp and you add 45mv of potential then you have added some very very very tiny portion of energy to the tank circuit.
However if the tank circuit has a high, a super high Q and it has built up to a current of 20,000 amps then 45mv means you gain 900w.


The voltage induced in the tank circuit hasn't changed, what has change is the current that voltages has been added to.


So how come a feeble incoming emf can create such impossibly high currents (in my thought experiment anyway)?


Why doesn't the inductor cancel it as happens in a transformer where the secondary can't create a stronger field than the primary?


Answer: the capacitor keeps the phase from being at 180 degrees so it never cancels the incoming EMF.


This stuff has bugged me for ages, this might be common knowledge to some, but I've just grokked it.


So what does this tell us about free energy?


It verifies that my post back a few weeks ago was correct, having large currents circulate in a tank circuit does increase the energy received!
And that a capacitor can keep the phase of current through an inductor from being too near to 180 degrees to the incoming wave.


So to increase energy you must establish large circulating currents (which increases the energy induced without increasing the EMF) and employ more capacitance than impedance in the circuit.


This explains something I had read once, someone who made a winning crystal radio was saying that you are better off with a big capacitor and a small inductor, only they were not sure why it worked.

It's interesting how a Tank circuit operates... theoretically once brought to saturation, there is no need for input other than that of replacing losses.   It becomes an impedance of infinite resistance not allowing any current to flow into the circuit at resonance.  Unfortunately, in the real world.... let's say you did achieve a 20k amp circulating in the tank and you used a 10ft section of "0000" cable as your primary inductor.   That inductor would have a resistance of .00049 ohms with 20,000 amps circulating... ohms law predicts a loss of 196,000 watts due to resistance.   Of course if you had achieved a 20k amp circulation with 15,000 volts then the loss would be small in comparison. 

A very cold environment or a super conductor might be the only way to achieve such results.   Quite a magnificent achievement.   I've read tesla said he did this with a cold coil (liquid air) and it stayed in oscillation, once started, for 3 years.   

playhookey.com is a good place to learn about the LC circuits - very well explained. 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10553 on: February 07, 2012, 04:13:16 AM »
It's interesting how a Tank circuit operates... theoretically once brought to saturation, there is no need for input other than that of replacing losses.   It becomes an impedance of infinite resistance not allowing any current to flow into the circuit at resonance.  Unfortunately, in the real world.... let's say you did achieve a 20k amp circulating in the tank and you used a 10ft section of "0000" cable as your primary inductor.   That inductor would have a resistance of .00049 ohms with 20,000 amps circulating... ohms law predicts a loss of 196,000 watts due to resistance.   Of course if you had achieved a 20k amp circulation with 15,000 volts then the loss would be small in comparison. 

A very cold environment or a super conductor might be the only way to achieve such results.   Quite a magnificent achievement.   I've read Tesla said he did this with a cold coil (liquid air) and it stayed in oscillation, once started, for 3 years.   

playhookey.com is a good place to learn about the LC circuits - very well explained.





"Of course if you had achieved a 20k amp circulation with 15,000 volts then the loss would be small in comparison."  Yes and this is apparently how you can achieve overunity. The High voltage couples with the aether to gain more energy.

John

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10554 on: February 07, 2012, 04:21:28 AM »
You know, when I think of NMR and how difficult it is to extract power from it without destroying the resonance,
I find it a brilliant idea to use the NMR material to make a heating coil, and just let it resonate while producing heat.
Producing heat is the natural thing for it to do.
So could one make a heating coil out of iron wire and get it resonating at it's NMR frequency and allow it to heat your home?

This type of concept was opened up to me by the Ghazanfar Ali Generator
http://www.overunity.com/11961/ghazanfar-ali-generator-utlilizing-trapped-energy/msg311552/#msg311552
Before I read his idea I never thought of doing such a thing, I was always looking for ways to extract that energy,
and use it in an external device.  But could never get past the problem of loosing resonance. 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10555 on: February 07, 2012, 05:58:13 AM »

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« Reply #10556 on: February 07, 2012, 08:52:55 AM »
@FreeEnergyInfo
What is the role of the ionizer in your scheme? How do you want to get the electromagnetic induction in the T1? IMHO in such a scheme will not work.
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« Reply #10557 on: February 07, 2012, 12:36:38 PM »
I have just tried my theory with positive results!


I took a coaxial cable, shorted the 2 ends of the shield  together and one of the ends of the center conductor and connected it to the ground of my scope.
Then I took a reading off the free end.


I then got a 12v battery (needs recharging) and connected it up with a relay (my scope was powering the coil) and a pancake coil so it pulsed and produced a reading in the coaxial cable, so far so good.


I saw the reading on the scope and then fired up a HF HV supply (details below but unimportant).
The HV was rectified by microwave diodes, I connected the hv negative to the pancake coil, the reading increased greatly, I then attached the positive, no increase.


This seemed all very nice and clear and in agreement with my expectations.
I typed this message up, then thought to try something else out.


In doing so my function generator is now toast sadly. (the voltage from the TC like hv jumped the pins on the relay)


Not sure what I will do now for a function generator now.


I hoped to have the pickup coil charged positively, but that test will need to wait.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #10558 on: February 07, 2012, 01:35:25 PM »
Hi aether22,
I'm with you: its a picture I have seen when playing with TPU drivers...after some generators failuers I NEVER used directly the generator output but rather I'm alway using an high efficiency optically isolated  mosfet switch like the one built by JDO300. Just replacing the right mosfet you need  you are done ;) Mosfet mounted on socket. I've 6 of them I bought when playing with Spherics TPU.
I've some news on Caduceus/pickup coil update: I did the first impedance matching (using an SWR bridge) and now with only +10V to kacher I've on pickup output 500Vpp trumpet very easily. I'm now doing the output matching filter.
The selfrunner posted by Freenergyinput and designed by Antanas is interesting even if I think that in such a case the output should be killed by the two low load impedance. Practically I did the same a week ago trying to close the loop in the same way...noway to go :-[
The Ion wind generated is real: I did it several times..I think that purpose is to draw more energy directly from the aether itself. Of course without any measurement any comment is impossible.

Roberto

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« Reply #10559 on: February 07, 2012, 08:09:22 PM »
Good point Roberto! (pun not intended)


There is a guy, I forget his name but he uses insulated ionic wind generators (in other words points but no wind) and finds there is still motion generated, in other words the aether is being thrusted by the points, not just ions.


There is also Leon Sprink, he has 4 HV points 'pointing' towards each other.
This creates a large area where the aether is disturbed (churned up) changing the time it takes to produce cement, but it also disturbs gravity and changes many physical properties of the space.
http://www.rexresearch.com/sprink/sprink.htm


Also this is worth noting: http://sparkbangbuzz.com/corona-osc/corona-osc.htm



addition: I found it, His name is Borbás Miklós  His site is gone but:
http://www.electricimage.com.au/allan/Miklos_Tube.html
Actually this is kinda on topic too: http://www.electricimage.com.au/allan/Radiant.html
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 09:15:02 PM by aether22 »

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