First Joe,
you hit the nail on the head.
We have progressed so far at this point
that the only available model is that of theory.
It may be decades before equipment can catch up to test stuff.
As far as the non private/military sector is concerned that is...
You seem to be thinking along the lines of
Einstein whom was quoted as saying:
"The only thing holding me back from learning
is the education I have received already"
Perhaps what would help would be if...
Each person that becomes (Formally) schooled
in (The sad current status of) science catagories of present
would automaticly gain a wider intelectual stance proportional
to said match in knowledge increase automaticly as a default.
Thus keeping us ever still open mined to the concept of error.
To never stop questioning what we "Think" we know so far.
Our inquisitive nature,
upon being fed solutions,
meets a saturation point instead.
Sadly it seems at this point
the intelect falls back on all the
(Draconly proven) "Stuff"
we think we already know.
We are admirable while persuing
what we see as unknowns.
But once learned,
we sadly have a tendancy to never quesion
what we (Have already) learned
anywhere near enough
as a checks & balances protocol.
So my vote is:
YES,
A collaborative enviroment where people that
HAVE NOT yet learned a stage in the learning process themselves
follow up on things "Assumed/Learned" is a huge benifit to all.
Almost like trickle-down theory of checks and balances.
Now remember,
most of these otherwise well educated people
(Yeah I've had years of torment talking to them too...)
cannot be held at fault due to the entire quadrature section
of electrodynamics theory that was removed from what was
and is (Still 'till today) the best current understanding
of our grand universe so far.
That is before the likes of JP Morgan screwed us over
and had the overunity aspect of all theory symplified
to remove it from being used against all profetiers...
Ask one well educated persen to talk about overunity,
or time verses scaler potentials and vectors...
They got screwed out of learning what is truely possible.
Not their fault,
but they will defend
what they (Think/Assume) they know
to the very bitter end
before they embrase it.
This current enviroment where people of many plateau's
can interact is an awsome realm due to this simple fact.
As each person below an "Understanding" level climbs the ladder
they "Proof-read" each sucessive assumption published
looking for missed phenomena or variations from the assumed
results of most theoretical data considered benchmark today.
Heck,
I may have even made you think/question something...
...Smarty-alec's need not respond and waste forum space...
Now on the "Mass cannot slow time" thingy...,
Mass is a function of time and space.
Without time as one vector,
how can mass exist at all?
And to quote from early in this thread:
Can time change mass?
If it can than mass can change time.
I believe every day we look into a commercial telescope
that is also proven more and more, right?
How can this topic exist questioning that?
The time references sent out in space
return newer timewise than when sent.
Velocity against time must be proportionally linked, right?
I mean...using time as a reference point as example:
A second ago mass didn't exist except as multiple probabilies,
a second from now it no longer exists,
except for the chosen probability path.
The rub is that our perception of time
varies in relation to event.
So we may think it is a variable.
I think only our frame of reference changes
causing taumatic events to appear in slow motion.
or more pointedly,
an airplane that only takes 20 minutes travel
in the bermuda triangle
that should take signifantly longer do occur.
the clocks/watchs will be near the same.
and a vacuum measurement of the speed of light
on the ground AND on that flight will appear to be the same.
GravityBlock puts forth a fairly comprehensible tought construct in post #7.
I mean,
can we really say time changes actually?
or our reference to it does instead?
good thing massless components of atomic structures
can communicate at time references that severely exceed the speed of light
or life on planet earth could not communicate properly and would perish.
I have recently made errors interpretating data
from a battery storage O-Scope in a faraday cage
reading a capacitor effected from a scaler wave emission
and interpreted as "Noise".
Can you say feedback loop greater than the speed of light?
I wound up posting the concept in an EVP forum
(Electro-Voice Phenomenon) do to It's iluminating results.
Sorry O.T. there a sec...
Stuff that can travel through ALL matter
intrigues me as much as it did Tesla too.
If you really wanna steam you noodle...
Why does an emission through two slots
behave has a wave or particle depending
on if some observes the process
??
Thats the mind-nummer.
If a tree falls in the woods...
I want to give credit to another post quote
as reference to correct thinking.
.....Since time doesnt exist in time and it doesn't exist in the lesser dimensions it can exist everywhere at once.....
Other quotes on the mark:
Space is time, space is created from "time" vibrating.
Time doesn't need length, width, or height to exist, but L,W,H all need time to exist.
And Inarguables:
If we had no memory, would we not find ourselves in a perpetual 'present'?
whats interesting about this one is the recent discovery that all memory is present in all genes.
But that was a personal observation.
While alive we are capable of future and past recognition.
Not sure how/why only some have the future ability...
As a ship speeds up its energy state increases.
From an outsiders point of view the ship appears to get shorter (not longer like einstein says)
example stand on the side of the road and have a car drive past you at 10mph, it has an apparent length. have it drive past you at a 110mph, it appears in front of you for a short time, therefore it appears to be shorter.
Einstein said it gets longer, it only does this from a time constant point of view, in other words if your lowest time amount is one second, well the 110 MPH car appears to be longer than the 10MPH. But this is apparent from a point of view that is in line to the ships direction of travel.
from the side it appears shorter.
Now increase the speed to that of light, the transverse observer sees nothing, because its moving so fast that it went 2 dimensional. From a linear observer it would appear to exist for its entire ray length.
Einstein was refering to observers view.
His relativistic point of reference
indicates he is correct.
True,
your impulse reaction says we must also raise our reference point.
The faster it goes,
the slower it appears IN TIME.
I fully agree at first glance it appears counter-intuitive!
Our currunt incorrect method of looking at time causes this error.
It will appear longer.
Did you think doppler effect was only for audio?
Of course it "Appears" longer.
Reletivisticly speaking...
In his reference it had already PAST the observer it WOULD appear shorter.
This is a wonderful topic.
Iagree with the differing points posted about some facet.
Let us not agree in a constructive manor of comparison please?