Author Topic: Do we need Free Energy at all ? (Read 41626 times)

triffid · « **Reply #60 on:** June 23, 2009, 05:45:53 PM »

The Paramagnetic and diamagnetic properties of elements seem to be powered by the spin of electrons in their orbits.So the elements in these two cases are their own little generators of electrical power.Triffid

rangerover444 · « **Reply #61 on:** June 23, 2009, 07:26:00 PM »

triffid,

Sorry to deviates from the main topic, but hopefully itâ€™s for a good reason.
The spin of the electron itself cannot cause neither paramagnetic nor diamagnetic
phenomena, in fact the spin of the electron is literally a â€œtheoretical physicsâ€,
not observable one . Neither you nor me nor any other human yet saw an electronâ€¦â€¦
What was observed so far around the atom for instance, is a fog. But fog is a fogâ€¦
No one could observed if this fog is made of orbiting particles, no one could ever
count how many particles are spinning around Hydrogen atom, or determine their orbits,
or maybe there are two types of particles orbiting in opposite direction ? Same with
the protons, neutrons and the rest.

And this is for a good reason : Method of the â€œIndirect Observationâ€ which become
accepted through complex instruments that â€œmade to capture particlesâ€ and then tag
them before they disappear againâ€¦..lol With a great help from the developing branch
of physics called Mathematics, which means â€œIf you cannot observe it, at least calculate
that itâ€™s thereâ€â€¦.. sound familiar ?

But now, thanks to these methods, we have double trouble here : Not only no one found
that magnets are in the base of electricity (and nothing else), now they put the electron in
the base of magnetismâ€¦..lol

Nothing personal, just encouraging self observations & calculations, through direct
methods (and itâ€™s possibleâ€¦..).

Cheers.

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #62 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:17:48 PM »

it is one thing to describe a "Stable Isotope" and it is a totally different animal trying to describe an "Unstable Isotope" that dynamically changes according to its half life and Radioactive process, Classical Mechanics of an Atom describe the Electron as a Particle but this only occurs if it becomes a mean free particle, a Quantum Mechanical bound Electron acts as a smeared orbital shell across its Band Gap, Stable orbital shell Electrons that have only bound energy don't like to move in their steady state and will only move if there is a dynamic energy/field change that forces the Electron to do work and they will seek to come back to that ground state so they don't have to do work again. Stable Electron Orbitals are very Lethargic. however Unstable Radioactive Isotopes will crack the whip on Steady State Electrons and cause them to become Excited and do work.

an Electron can act as either a particle or a wave and morphs itself to fit constraints of the environment around it. in the double slit process, it is difficult to watch an electron because the video equipment used to view the process emits electromagnetic fields which can interact and change a particles state even in a free state. electronics emit radiation fields this is why it appears that the electron changes its state from a particle to a wave
or visa versa when being electronically watched and or not being electronically watched.

when I pull out the old Fly back transformer someday I will do some visual experiments on YouTube to demonstrate the process.

Jerry

ezzob · « **Reply #63 on:** June 23, 2009, 10:12:21 PM »

Free energy means = money will be worthless

Free energy means = oilcompany will be very angry

Free energy means = so much you can not think about it

free energy means = Do we really wont it???

jibbguy · « **Reply #64 on:** June 23, 2009, 11:11:07 PM »

Money is not based on Oil; or even the value of Gold. It is based on people's perceptions of stability. And when you look how the Fed and other "national central" banks (...really privately owned in most countries) create money out of thin air NOW.... Where they leverage a deposit by a factor of NINE TIMES; inflating the initial amount by 900% for use as loans... That means most of the money "supply" is not really based on ANYTHING AT ALL!

What money's value really is, is "confidence". Confidence that the system won't crash.

In these times, where mad and unchecked speculation has ruined over half the supply of cash within a few days' time; the only thing that can increase confidence and restore real stability, is GREATLY INCREASED MANUFACTURING... Where REAL goods are produced. And what better driver for this vastly increased manufacturing than revolutionary energy technologies that everyone will want??

Oil corps will still have 30% of their business; and it will take years for the supply of new devices to catch up with demand (and in the mean time, people will mostly use fossil fuels as usual). This will give the system time to adjust.

Meanwhile, greater tax revenues and more money for the government.... Coming from the highly successful new companies, from their employees new incomes, from greater sales tax revenues and increased consumerism, from fewer people on Public Assistance, and from property tax as the towns are rejuvenated and property values grow... These taxes will end the government budget deficits which are behind the instability.

So all in all, "money" NEEDS Free Energy desperately, before it all fades away into the pockets of "wall street" speculators.. By allowing "Main Street" to run the economy again, we solve the stability problem... Not to mention all those other problems too

triffid · « **Reply #65 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:44:26 PM »

I saw a really neat video clip called"money as debt".I believe it was on u-tube.It showed how the "money supply " is increased at least 9 times by every bank in the united states.Sometimes more in other countries.Triffid

triffid · « **Reply #66 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:48:22 PM »

I want to say up to 23 times in other countries.The bottom line is that there is not enough physcial money for our needs.Thats what I got out of the video clip.Triffid

TechStuf · « **Reply #67 on:** June 30, 2009, 12:34:33 AM »

The world 'needs' free energy like it needs more vampires. Really. Think about it. How many reaction/implementation scenarios do you suppose that TPTB have ready for any remotely liberating tech that hits the scene? There are plenty of clean sources of energy that are 'free' enough to have already effected great change. I would GREATLY suspect any "Free energy" device allowed to proliferate. Because by now, many of us KNOW that such allowance could ONLY be as a supplement to THEIR aims! This dog and pony show that the long ago foretold power mongers are running at this late hour, relies upon trickery and misdirection. Their foundational pillars: Energy, Economy, Education, Media, Communication are so firmly entrenched and controlled, that they can produce and direct our society like any one of a number of their sordid movie tales.

Transformers: revenge of the who? The fallen.

Youtube search: Hollywood's war on God.

The reason people are running around with that 'deer in the headlights look' is that many are just smart enough to suspect a huge CON in the works....as always.

For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and
wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you
beforehand. (Matthew 24:24-25, NKJV)

Do we need another "einstein" "alexander the great" etc. to save us?

"Hell" No. In a world full of tyranny, freedom always means war. And at this late stage....a BIG ONE.

And who are the self assumed masters of the racket that is 'war'?

Thesis, Antithesis, ......synthesis.

They love playing both ends against the middle (or thinking) class to create ever more degrading levels of synthesis.

It will take a GOD...Scratch that. It will absolutely require Yahweh, the ONE TRUE GOD and the One He is to send forth, Yeshua, Jesus Christ, to save this world. Or at least a remnant of it which might remain that has not corrupted itself by taking part in the 'reprobate charade'.

"Teach a man to think that he's thinking and he will love you. Make him really think, and he may hate you." - anonymous

Consider giving studious attention to the following.....

http://www.hisremnant.org/eby/articles/kingdom/twohands/twohandsof.html

There is much to be gained by doing so.

"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before Yahweh. For it is written, "He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS" - 1 Corinthians 3:19

sm0ky2 · « **Reply #68 on:** June 30, 2009, 07:30:35 AM »

Quote from: triffid on June 23, 2009, 05:45:53 PM

The Paramagnetic and diamagnetic properties of elements seem to be powered by the spin of electrons in their orbits.So the elements in these two cases are their own little generators of electrical power.Triffid

more like batteries in that sense. the energy imparted onto the element to fuse together its nucleus, is what causes the electrons to enter into and orbit the atomic structure. as this energy dissapates, the element will lose that energy - eventually to the point its nucleus can no longer hold itsemf together and it will change forms.

vified · « **Reply #69 on:** October 13, 2009, 08:00:57 AM »

When selling something on ebay in Australia, you have to offer pay pal as a payment method but it's not the ONLY payment method you're allowed to offer, and as a buyer I think you don't have to have pay pal, but I'm not sure about that part.

jibbguy · « **Reply #70 on:** October 13, 2009, 06:29:35 PM »

Hehehehe, this is hilarious. We can feel good that it's come down to this, it means we are making important progress

Lol, like the people who come here are going to be swayed by the attempts to stop us.

... No, we don't need free energy:

We don't need electricity, or toilets, either. Nor airplanes... After all, airplanes drop bombs right? Electricity kills thousands a year. More people die on the toilet than do in armed combat every year, lol... Ain't that a crappy way to die, eh? Governments should outlaw them.. Or pay shills to convince us to stop using them

But we need oil and coal, right? Lol as grease to take the incredible assault on the Planet's ecology, and our pocketbooks, that these criminals inflict on the poor and middle class of the world year after unending year. We really need to allow the oil corps to drill the hell out of the Amazon Basin, and for the indigenous populations there who protest the blatant stealing of their lands, to be murdered by machine guns from helicoptors... Because we "need" the oil, right?

Lol... All we need is to OBEY, and they will take care of everything for us

Folks, they are down to their last pathetic chance of stopping free energy disclosure:

To convince us to stop research on our own. Because their other dirty tricks and illegal tactics don't work on the Open Source paradigm.

REMEMBER THAT, guys: That's what much of what we see here on this forum, and others, is all about now.

But those parlor tricks, and others like the use of "derision", don't work with those who are independent of thought. True & real independence, the strength that comes from it, is just that: Independence of thought. And we who come here LEGITIMATELY to study and further these important technologies, are independent of thought, by our very nature.

So that particular laundry soap won't sell here. And, btw; it smells bad

jadaro2600 · « **Reply #71 on:** October 15, 2009, 02:10:48 AM »

...energy is free, it's all the crap that's between us and its use that's costing.

TechStuf · « **Reply #72 on:** October 15, 2009, 03:30:38 AM »

Now THAT's free energy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNi0YXYadg0

Too bad man's not wise enough to make electric motors like that one....grossly primitive copies maybe....

I'm sure that TPTB have their 'industrial espionage' guys working on it. They'd better hurry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNi0YXYadg0

TS

jadaro2600 · « **Reply #73 on:** November 06, 2009, 06:48:24 AM »

Quote from: ezzob on June 23, 2009, 10:12:21 PM

Free energy means = money will be worthless
Free energy means = oilcompany will be very angry
Free energy means = so much you can not think about it
free energy means = Do we really wont it???

..this is my favorite chain. DO we really need it? ..do we want it? ..what is it? ...do we simply loath what it could mean and by proxy, not want it, or hate the peoples that have it.

Is it worth bothering with?

I interact on this forum; it is interesting, the conversations that go on, and so forth. What has the hunt been all about.

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