So, we know it cannot work but, hey, why not make a buck off of it like Sterling does. We're in a really bad shape if reputable companies such as Henkel rationalizes it that way.

No.
Do you think it's necessary that they know the "whole secret"?
I think I remember that Sjack A. "said" he is the only one who knows the truth... Beside his partners, investors?...

Why do you think that Henkel knows the whole story? Is this firm a partner? Could be.

Aha, so now you allow for Henkel's engineers to forget their classical training and suppose there might be something to Abeling's claim. Based on what? If they don't have the evidence Henkel, in selling the glue not just for the profit but also because they believe somehow in the project without proper evidence, would appear more like a crank company than the reputable one we think it is, wouldn't it?

Aha, so now you allow for Henkel's engineers to forget their classical training and suppose there might be something to Abeling's claim. Based on what? If they don't have the evidence Henkel would appear more like a crank company than the reputable one we think it is, wouldn't it?

Sorry, but what guarantees you that they are indeed involved in this "controversial" project? Because of a few posts you read here? Because you talked to him?
What guaranties you that they (Henkel) knows the "whole story"? Did Henkel saw Abeling experiments and are now convinced this is a real deal? Why, for instance, a guy from some other Henkel's branch (high ranking doctor of chemistry from another branch which I happened to know well.....)

If this project is indeed so controversial (and secret), why would they be answering some "unknown guy from the web" request?


Yeah, could be.
I admit a find AquariuZ's posts sincere, so I have no problems with his reports. But I'd say we don't know much about what there may be really happening...


Btw, what classical training of the Henkel engineers are you alluding to? Are they specialised in chemistry, biology (maybe physics?), or, doh.., in  "FE" questions?
Yes, I know they most know the CoE and similar stuff (that's a basic... especially for technically educated experts).
Any conventionally trained expert would know that gravity motors are considered as impossible...

So, why does a commercialist from one of the Henkel units claims this really is a serious project ?

I'd like to know why, too.
Cheers!

Patent is online now, thank you Espacenet.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item265

Thanks, Tink!

Aha.
Well, good luck with replicating....

If this are really the basics of "weight power  plant",  than you can have it....
Another ones bites the dust.

Cheers!

Thanks, Tink!

Aha.
Well, good luck with replicating....

If this are really the basics of "weight power  plant",  than you can have it....
Another ones bites the dust.

Cheers!

Why?

Why?

Because of what I saw on the "drawings" pages.

I don't understand the original language (Dutch)

Or maybe I'm just dead wrong.
Cheers!

@spinner,

Henkel is splashed all over Abeling's web page. You think they are gullible enough not to know that and not to realize this connects them with Abelings obviously (as seen directly from his web page) controversial project, correct?

Because of what his web site says. Do you want a quote?

[qupte]What guaranties you that they (Henkel) knows the "whole story"?

You mean to tell me they can be folled by any passerby? You mean to tell me a website connecting their name with a super controversial project means nothing to them, is that what you mean? We're in a really bad shape if that's the case.

Good question. They must have to allow such involvement of their name with his project (Sterling way of making a buck from non-working project excluded). Otherwise, they are as flimsy as they can get.

Maybe because they are so convinced, they've seen it and so on that it allows them to respond in this way to a question from the public. What else?

Because they really consider it a serious project, beyond than just a commercial activity for selling glue. What's in it for them to make it up -- present it to the public as a serious project while knowing it isn't? Just to sell more glue? Hardly.

Omnibus, I'd like to see this would come true (like you would like, too).

No offence, if I'm sounding too skeptical.

We'll see, won't we?
Soon.

Ok, your posts questions are just to quick for me...

The drawing pages? I see the weight paths. Nothing special. There are no "revolutionary mechanisms" which would use some other forces in a novel way.

I'm certainly not trying to "cover my bets".  If that's a questionnaire, you can count me as a "non believer" in this Abeling project.

I am just saying (for the record) that from what i saw here - so far, it's my opinion it doesn't work. It's probably just another delusion.
As simple as that. You can have all the glory at the successfull confirmation, no prob.

Not that I wouldn't like to see a working gravity wheel. (!!!)

Cheers!

Posts like this are useless. What you're presenting are not arguments but some hunches of yours which are hardly of interest to anyone because they are trivial. Probably you'd do much better to keep them to yourself. You can imagine what will become of this thread if everyone starts to fill it with his or her trivial negative premonitions and prejudices.