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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 473168 times)

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2295 on: March 22, 2010, 01:24:32 PM »
And when you call me anti-American for being unhappy with people who harassed me beause I wanted to meet a woman who lives in the Ukraine is called what ?
 As to your engineering tools like your grid and keel effect, neither allows for hydraulics to be considered.
I think this helps to demonstrate your lack of understanding when it comes to engineering.

If you had a point to make that wasn't based on a technical definition, you wouldn't need to write so much.

Jim

And when you call me anti-American for being unhappy with people who harassed me beause I wanted to meet a woman who lives in the Ukraine is called what ?

Personally, I couldn't care less about your personal life and who you meet.

As to your engineering tools like your grid and keel effect, neither allows for hydraulics to be considered.
I think this helps to demonstrate your lack of understanding when it comes to engineering.


This show your ignorance. Hydraulics fluid/water has weight. From what you have shown in your approach is using the fluid as weight. The grid is use for weight displacement. You do have to know how much weight the fluid is for your calculations. Like I said, it is a stagnant simple grid. It is not a animation computer simulator like it seams you want. But if you learned how to use it, it would be a useful tool in wheel designing. Your biggest problem is you want to over complicate everything in long drawn out math.


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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2296 on: March 22, 2010, 09:41:01 PM »
We're discussing your theology, right ? It's like Michael said, nobody wants to discuss it with you because you are right. This implies everybody else is wrong.
 And that is what you say about engineering. We need to accept your belief based on your testimony and your witnesses. Yet with engineering, it is something usually demonstrated.
 I like what you said about your grid, it is stagnant. That would be a proper assessment. using math allows for the rotation of the wheel and is much easier to calculate. As you said with your grid, the wheel would have to be turned and everything figured out numerous times. A lot of work for questionable results. With math, the estimates would much more approximate the real values being discussed. but for someone who has never taken the time to learn any math, I should expect as much.
 By the way, why won't you let Michael post any more ? Was it because he let us know something about you ? I believe that is why.

Jim

Every time you loose an argument, you change direction and attack from a non related position, again, and again. We call this a dizzying intellect. You and your opinions have proven over and over, time and time again to have absolutely no value. Therefor you have no value and you are a complete wast of time. IMO

I did find your stupidity funny from time to time. For IMO you can't see the end of your nose. But overused humor get old quick and is no longer funny. Well there is wheel work to be done and promoted.
Good Buy

FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2297 on: March 23, 2010, 12:23:36 AM »
Gentlemen, please. Take it offline, will ya?

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2298 on: March 24, 2010, 12:49:00 AM »
Jim said: 

With the water wheel, I can show where about all descriptions and clues of Bessler's wheel fits it.


This is great.  Move back to your thread on the water wheel and state them one by one.  Let us respond one by one.  It should make for some good conversation. Let us point out any faults or improvements to the design without the bickering.
Sound good?   :)    We may all learn something.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2299 on: March 24, 2010, 12:56:58 AM »
Jim

Every time you loose an argument, you change direction and attack from a non related position, again, and again. We call this a dizzying intellect. You and your opinions have proven over and over, time and time again to have absolutely no value. Therefor you have no value and you are a complete wast of time. IMO

I did find your stupidity funny from time to time. For IMO you can't see the end of your nose. But overused humor get old quick and is no longer funny. Well there is wheel work to be done and promoted.
Good Buy

FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO,FDROLMAO

P-Motion Jim; You don't get the hint do you. He said Good Buy. Not goodbye. FDROLMAO He has to much to do to talk/bicker with you.

Goodbye

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2299 on: March 24, 2010, 12:56:58 AM »
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2300 on: June 03, 2010, 05:34:37 PM »
Hi all, I'm new here, and wanted to know if someone has found out something new about Sjack Abeling's machine/power plant recently.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2301 on: July 10, 2010, 04:20:17 PM »
Attached is another video on my progress with having 16 weights installed and 8 cross-bars. The ramp at the bottom has been revised. I shortened all of the cross bars so the weights move in 12" on the ascending side.

Next, I plan to install a ramp at the top as shown in the video below:

<link>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_lZgn4pasA</link>

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2301 on: July 10, 2010, 04:20:17 PM »
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Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2302 on: July 11, 2010, 12:55:02 AM »
Best Abeling build quality so far Preston! That's a lot of parts you crafted there...

What just occured to me. If the wheel turn fast enough, might the centrifugal forces help the weights to fall in place on top? A telecopic rod might do this job. Push/support at low speeds, extend when the top weight wants to take a wider radius.
In dusty's wheel, the sling shot action on the top was quite violent, just not a self runner. Perhaps weight should not be restricted all the way around...


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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2304 on: December 29, 2010, 09:18:50 PM »
That's an old chestnut. There's nothing happening there.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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Offline Cloxxki

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2305 on: December 29, 2010, 11:09:10 PM »
That's an old chestnut. There's nothing happening there.
Well, it seems they're claiming to make one self-runner-destructor at a time.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2306 on: January 23, 2011, 04:11:40 PM »
  Hi Preston, a few years ago I had built a wheel very similar to the Sjack. After a while I came to the conclusion that I was trying to lift the weights to fast from the six o'clock position , to the nine o'clock position. I then built two tracks one going from the 4:30 position to the 6:oo position and the other from the 12:00 to 2:00. With that track arrangement the weighhts were being shifted while rolling down on tracks. I was getting close, but I think that my wheel design had more friction in it than yours

   I which I could find pictures of this build, but I thinK they got deleted by my kids playing with the camera.
 
    Best of luck

    Leo

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2307 on: January 23, 2011, 04:37:40 PM »
They claim that experiments are difficult and expensive , because the device runs out of controll . Bullshine I say . A large generator with a resistive controll would take care of it with a car type brake as back up .

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2308 on: January 25, 2011, 01:45:21 AM »
     Hi Neptune, I agree. I can easily think of a dozen ways to slow down a wheel. A hydromatic braking system would solve that problem quite easily.

     I also think that what they are doing is, say they got something and try to raise money, then drag it out. Should someone else solve the riddle then they'll claim it was their design.

       Regardless I still think that the design has merit

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2309 on: January 25, 2011, 02:00:31 AM »
     Hi Neptune, I agree. I can easily think of a dozen ways to slow down a wheel. A hydromatic braking system would solve that problem quite easily.

     I also think that what they are doing is, say they got something and try to raise money, then drag it out. Should someone else solve the riddle then they'll claim it was their design.

       Regardless I still think that the design has merit

I agree, the design has merit. The problem is how to decrease friction.

Like I've said many times, the winner is the one who can make a working device and have it replicated independently. They are fooling themselves if they think they can claim priority over such a trivial idea, known for centuries.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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