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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 430472 times)

Offline AquariuZ

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Greetings.

I was surprised to see a search on Abeling receiving "0" hits.

So, long overdue as he is about to go ballistic. (I think)

In November of 2007, an unknown dutch inventor made the rather outlandish claim he had found a way to rotate and accelerate a large wheel by using twin weights and earths gravity as only propulsion. At the time this was merely ruled a hoax.

See the dutch media (local) coverage here: Noord TV Report on Abeling device Edit: added Broli´s version with subs

After that it has been very quiet around Sjack, until a few months back he created a company Abeling Beheer B.V. and started a website which explains his intentions:

"The construction of the first Weight Power Plant is expected in May 2009. The location for the construction of the first Weight Power Plant is probably going to be the province of Groningen, the Netherlands."


and

"The Fall and Lift control system. The invention of the "Fall and Lift control system" was done towards the end of 2006. The system transports, controls and transmits mass/weight to (for instance) a drive shaft. This system was the foundation for a machine that can work on weights/mass only, without adding any form of energy. It's purpose is to drive other objects."


Abeling claims he now partners with reputable businesses like Henkel and has all the approvals needed to go ahead with the project.

Link to the bi-lingual webpage: http://mooieenergie.nl

He appears to be a cool customer, not at all media hungry, and has quietly filed his patents, raised capital and signed partner agreements.

Time will tell if he is 100% legit, his claim is that he will be able to provide power to the general public with at least a 50% discount against current regular provider rates. I think that still is too high, 95% would be better.

My questions to all in here are:

1) What do you think?
2) Have you heard anything about this?
3) If this is a "scam" why pursue it further now that he has all he needs?

My thoughts are that he truly has found a way to generate acceleration using weights and gravity only, or at least HE is 100% convinced.

I have sent him a message of encouragement, warning and a plea for full publication as soon as possible.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2009, 11:30:06 PM by AquariuZ »

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Offline broli

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 07:27:02 PM »
I believe him. But his method of selling it is beyond belief. He deserves the wealth but not like this.
What kind of bullshit change is this...50% cheaper LOL  ::). God some people are unbelievably greedy.

Edit: Just read his website at

http://mooieenergie.nl

Where it was planned to publish the theory behind it in mid march but looks like that got postponed. At least he's willing to share the knowledge so I have to take back what I just said.


Offline AquariuZ

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 07:36:22 PM »
I believe him. But his method of selling it is beyond belief. He deserves the wealth but not like this.
What kind of bullshit change is this...50% cheaper LOL  ::). God some people are unbelievably greedy.

I think he was just being "conservative" and yes ofcourse in a monetary based economy everyone will want to make a "buck".

But I tell you what, he (from what I understand) is about to disclose his theory -hopefully in full- so nothing stands in our way to replicate the wheel for ourselves and benefit from it. There will be tons and tons of green waiting so he will not lose anything by disclosing.

The major theorum disclosure is overdue for about five days now, reminds me a bit of Steorn... But in fairness I value him higher than Sean McCarthy at this moment in time. I cannot explain it, but there is something about him that makes me (want to) believe...

Adding: appearantly the core system will be made out of glass. How interesting...

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 09:09:08 PM »
Oke I went through the trouble of adding subtitles to the video so other can understand it. Even though little of use is said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_0kYz4LhHw


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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 10:36:17 PM »
Broli
Thanks for taking the time to do that

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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Offline AquariuZ

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 11:18:00 PM »
Oke I went through the trouble of adding subtitles to the video so other can understand it. Even though little of use is said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_0kYz4LhHw

Well done Broli, I wasn´t aware of the fact you are dutch too..

Thanks

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 11:24:01 PM »
Well done Broli, I wasn´t aware of the fact you are dutch too..

Thanks

Thanks, and I'm not dutch  ;).

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 11:36:20 PM »
Many thanks for the translation Broli.
Looks very interesting.

But it already sucks, that he wants first to patent it.

Probably the delay comes from the patent process and I guess
he will not get any patent on it,cause it will be stamped Perpetual Motion Machine,
which will not get him any patent.

So it would be much wiser just to publish it all freely and make
money with selling books about the invention.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2009, 11:37:38 PM »
Thanks, and I'm not dutch  ;).

Which makes it even more impressive...  ;D

One thing though: at 01:09 he says:
"Deze ontdekking had in mijn ogen 200 jaar geleden of misschien al eerder plaats kunnen vinden"

Which translates to:
"This discovery could have been made 200 years ago or maybe even earlier"

Not to:
"Some 200 years ago this invention has been found as well"

Just to be exact... I have modified my initial post to refer to your posting, thanks again.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2009, 11:43:53 PM »
But it already sucks, that he wants first to patent it.

Probably the delay comes from the patent process and I guess
he will not get any patent on it,cause it will be stamped Perpetual Motion Machine,
which will not get him any patent.

So it would be much wiser just to publish it all freely and make
money with selling books about the invention.

Regards, Stefan.

From what I understood he is patenting several things, one of them being the "Fall and Lift control system"...

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With the development of the "Dual Lift System" in 2008, a disturbance in the system's balance was removed by adjusting the trajectory of the bodies in the system. This made it possible to produce a system with the following advantages:

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      Placement below the ground / sealevel
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      Technically easy to understand
    * Independent of any energy source
    * Versatile
    * Reliable, manageable
    * Multiple units can be linked

Some applications for this system:

    * Generators
    * Driving systems (e.g. for ships)
    * Transport systems  (e.g. for water)
    * Weight Power Plant

The current objective is to produce power/energy with a new company by building and managing Weight Power Plants.
The Weight Power Plants will be located in closed bunkers wherever power is needed. It is easy to adapt the output of the system to local needs. States, cities and towns can all have their own power plant.

The advantages of this system are:

    * No air- or waterpolution
    * No horizon polution: placement undergrond possible
    * No disturbing noise
    * No blackouts during maintenance
    * Safe

From what I understand his intentions are indeed to release the complete theory, I would be highly surprised if he would not release it because of patent failure, seeing as he already secured several. (need to research to find them in which case I wil post them).

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Progress in launching the Weight Power Plant:

    * We have permission to construct and exploit Weight Power Plants in The Netherlands. We can use the existing infrastructure.
    * There is foreign interest in the Weight Power Plant and the watermanagement of Sjack Abeling .
    * Patents have been filed or are pending.
    * Applied techniques are currently being tested at Henkel's.
    * A test system is being prepared.

How can they deny him a patent if the thing works? He should go ahead anyway as he appearantly has convinced a legion of partners and is on the eve of building his first plant in Groningen.

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Offline khabe

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 12:02:10 AM »
Hm,
Well - big garage and eery plywood wheels again and again ...
But have you seen it works?
Nimble mind speaks - it does not - just no way 8)
Show us at least one working unit,
No cheap tricks, no tawdry art of cinematography - just a working machine,
cheers,
khabe

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 12:16:09 AM »
Yes indeed very hot topic as of late these gravitational do dads...

I would sure like to see one with my own two eyes functioning as well.

But... either way I am sure in some way we can increase wind turbine efficiency with the study of gravity wheels so whats the worse that can come of these claims ...

Gimme wind and solar or else I'll second guess the method for power generation for now and until proven otherwise that is where I am investing strictly wind and solar.


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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 12:29:53 AM »
I think I found the particular patent, but do not know how to access to actual data. (maybe subscribers only)

If someone has access to patents, here the info I have:

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  Energie-omzettingsinrichting.       
        Uitvinder:  ABELING JACOBUS JOHANNES [NL]      Aanvrager:  ABELING BEHEER B V [NL]
        EC:      IPC:   F03G7/10; F03G7/00
        
Informatie over publicatie:      NL1034252  (C1)  —  2009-02-16

Octrooinummer:      NL1034252 (C1)
Publicatiedatum:    2009-02-16
Uitvinder(s):    ABELING JACOBUS JOHANNES [NL]
Aanvrager(s):    ABELING BEHEER B V [NL]
Classificatie:    
- internationaal:    F03G7/10; F03G7/00
- europees:    
Aanvraagnummer:    NL20071034252 20070813
Prioriteitsnummer(s):    NL20071034252 20070813

filed 16/02/09, I have no idea how to access the actual application though

edit: (C1) stands for third level application initial was filed on 13/08/2007

Anyway, there you have it. Not much more to say but wait and see how it turns out. I hope he answers my emails.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2009, 12:49:54 AM by AquariuZ »

Offline broli

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2009, 12:52:40 AM »
The patent is indeed not digitized yet.


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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 12:54:09 AM »
Aqauariuz

User Pese has many skills in this patent research ,why don't you send him a PM
Chet

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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