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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer Explained  (Read 146238 times)

Offline Outlawstc

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2009, 07:01:27 AM »
you and me both lol .   maybe they can understand this???


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2009, 09:35:05 AM »
another good visual

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2009, 04:59:48 AM »
ponder on this players.. of the game called life...which leads great responsibility..     study what crystal defects are and what they do.. realize silicon and snow are both defects... understand light is positve potential while electrons are negative.. realize what a black solar panel is doing..  i think this is the black solar panel vice versa. and the cold process.. realize cold is related to vacuum states..

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #78 on: April 06, 2009, 06:41:09 AM »
i'm not even going to dignify your "GOD" theory with an answer...


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2009, 06:21:05 AM »
lol most ignorant closed minded that cant search for truth wouldn't even give it a chance.. just a theory thrown out there.. based off a couple factors that weigh possibility.. for instant stainless steels properties.. you most likely don't even know what its composition is.. you most likely don't know it has silcon in it.. you most likely didn't know that it has been forced to be a defect due to mechanical stress during it cold rolled process in manufacturing.. you most likely also don't realize the possible factors that alone creates.. you don't know that light is the positive in electric.. and that the ignorant still think electric is only produced from the current of electrons moving in one direction.. you don't realize that snow itself is a crystal defect.. you don't know that crystal defects are like mirrors that can multiply light.. you probably still believe einstein's equation is a fixed constant just like everyone else.. even though they admit light slows down when going threw glass.. you probably still don't know the difference between cold process and hot.. nor vacuum state or expansion.. you probably can even see how a solar panel is the hot process for solar.. you probably don't even know what a solar panel consist of in manufacturing.. hmm silcon wafer??? oh with a sheet of glass on top.. stephen meyers just points out stainless's semiconducting propertiesand his studies in it for no important reasons in his radio blogs..  and speaks of all the little triangles it forms.. you probly dont know triangles can form hexagons on a surface.. you probably dont relize a snow flake is a hexagon and how that can pertain to it... you probly didnt know that stainless is chemicaly inert and likes to keep a skin of ozone on it.. oh which is positively charged oxygen (missing electrons).. so i would have to say on a educated guess based on the search for the TRUTH and not just a simple throw it out and not dignify the "GOD" would be more appropriate. since you dont even know why snow is white (high energy state reflecting all light) another good question by mr stephen meyers.. so my theory is based of snow high mirroring effect to light and MULTIPLYING..  of posiitve energy happen on a low frequency and its cold VACUUM state MIGHT allow a positive potenitial to be established on a isolated platform.... remember free energy is real and for everything in life there's a right way and a wrong way. seems for electric the hot process is all we use and its the versa. so now that you didnt give a chance to dignify and stuck your noes in and gave a negative comment i hope i made you feel stupid.. because a real person of god.. would'nt judge but ask for clairity of ones perspective of thought.. you dont see how overunity and god relate.. your god is the mythology..  mine is vice versa. natural law.. for ever action one trade take place.. you probly cant see how we as a population can even hold up to one of the first pages in the bible.   chapter 1: 26  "and god said let us make man in our own image after are likeness: and let him have DOMINON over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the ai, and over everything that moveth apon the earth."
we have fallen to quantity and the the wall mart/ sam specials.. all the local can even sell there cattle.. and have replaced them with high quantity poor quality high rollers behind the scene.. .. if that were not tru we would be in the shoes we are now.. last but not least stans meyers trademark logo JOB38: 22-23
22 “Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail, 23 which I reserve for times of trouble,for days of war and battle?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2009, 07:46:29 AM »
I will not get into a discussion about religion on a science board. BUT i never said anything about the validity of your idea i simply said that your use of GOD either implies that you believe it is the be all and end all way... not slightly ignorant at all... or that it is holy and is greater than man kind... still not slightly ignorant at all... so take your ignorant stick and point it somewhere else... Oh BTW when light hits crystals it slows down and changes direction... you still loose some of the energy... there has been plenty of research into it.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2009, 08:48:42 AM »
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i'm not even going to dignify your "GOD" theory with an answer..

lol gods kingdom isnt just this little one planet my friend.. without sun theres no life. without earth theres no life  its vice versa.. .... its funny how they call the bible the holy bible.. while positve light energy are called holes.. its funny how the bible refer to being pure (neutral).. its funny how you can see how different charged substances effect peoples lifes.. such as alcohol which is a acid (neg) make people feel weighted down on this neutral planet.. its funny how people during the time of atlantis lived to be over 200 years old. they must of been taking synthetic over the counter cures to huh? lol

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use of GOD either implies that you believe it is the be all and end all way... not slightly ignorant at all... or that it is holy and is greater than man kind... still not slightly ignorant at all

"or that it is holy and is greater than man kind."  nothin could ever be bigger then man kind not even god powers huh..  not the powers that make earth spin and support life.. never.  light isnt a need for man we could live in the dark.. we dont need plants.  they dont need energy from god to grow

stan didn't relate this to god on his bussiness logo because he thought it wasnt connected.. never

simple apology wouldnt been strait but u square just like everyone else that cant figure out how to step out side of it.  not implying to anyone else hear just speaking of in population general.. should of just kept your negativity to yourself.. 

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there has been plenty of research into it.

so your telling me people have experimented with the set up i have drawn out?. they used stainless 304.. insulated it from ground.. about 20 by 20 feet? and since its slowing light down and multiplying wouldnt that be a low frequency amplification??? does tesla not say low frequencies have more power??,   and the vacuum cold state.. thats not adding to the vacuum on electrons threw a load? and sunlights radiant light could never be powerful enough to power anything..

they say black solar panel's are not efficient because they don't aborb lower frequencies  it is the hot process and the versa way of makeing them. allways 2 ways to skin a cat.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #82 on: April 07, 2009, 06:35:44 PM »
Okay Outlawstc and to all else this concerns,
The only thing anyone reading this thread should be concerned about is building the Gas Processor, injectors, and matching electronics. I left a lot of work to be done for all of you, either get busy building or shut up. I do not need anyone trying to tell me how Stanley Meyer did what he did for I already know the answer and I did the right thing and posted the solution for all of you. Sure it will take some getting use to seeing the math in action and a lot of studying to understand the math, chemistry, and physics concepts.

I didn't learn how Stanley Meyer did what he did by looking at the patents, I learned by looking away from the patents and just taking core concepts. Learning how a lightining storm truly works for starters, learning the full meaning of capacitance, and magentic fields. Learning about Kelvin genarators and Taylor cones. Understanding just what a dielectric is and how they behave in a capacitive set up. Also learning how to add up energy levels, rates of reactions, gas laws, the physical properties of water, and self ionization of water. Learning the nature of the hydronium ion, learn states of matter, the tripple point, and how to read phase diagrams, and the list goes on and on.

In the end I figured out how Stanley Meyer did what he did to use water as a source of fuel, and in doing so I also figured out how Dr. Dingel, Bob Boyce, and others systems work. It has been 11 years since the death of Stanley Meyer, and to the best of my knowlege no one in the whole world has made these mathmatical comparisons of energy content with gasoline & water the way I have. If anyone doesn't understand any part of what I posted then use the internet for what it is best suited for, teaching, and teach yourselves any part you don't understand. The first key thing everyone has to do is learn how to ask and answer question, this is the best example you are ever going to get of how to go about asking and answering questions on your own: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/285.html if after you see this video and you still don't know how to ask and answer questions just quit and find something else to do with your time. For after watching that video and you still don't know how to go about the process of information gathering you will be wasting your time and mine.

I will be honest I am not interested in what you think or how you think it works with concern to the water for fuel technologies. The only thing I am interested in is that you learn the concepts of what I have posted and start becoming energy independent as a result. Right now each and every person reading this should already be putting together ideas of how they can apply this technology to their everyday lives, and building prototypes to do so. If not, what are you doing? waiting for me to put out my prototype so it can be copied when you should be building an understanding of your own? Or are you waiting for an entertainment video of a car running on water when that in itself will be called a fake. The math is proof of concept for it stands alone and follows all the known rules of science. For even someone with diminished capacity can tell that 6k > 5k  and those numbers are the rounded off of the energy levels of gasoline and atomized water+primed air gases(4th level)+recirculated exhaust gases, just as Stanley Meyer tells to do in his patents. I don't want to hear how you think it works for I already know how it works, either you get busy freeing yourselves from energy enslavement or get busy dieing!

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #83 on: April 07, 2009, 06:55:16 PM »
I am glad to see this thread is doing so well.I have found a way to pull water out of thin air and hope we can  come up with cars that refuel themselves by pulling water out of the air at night and then using solar heat during the day to pull water out of those crystals.Couple this with recycling the steam that comes out of the tailpipe.You would have a car you never need to refuel.If you other guys work out how to burn water as a fuel.Then these cars have a chance to become reality.Triffid

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #84 on: April 07, 2009, 10:16:05 PM »
This is getting sad. What the hell are you people on?

Outlaw is now throwing religion into the mix - I guess that is to conveniently fill in the missing bits that his brain can't handle or science seemingly can't explain! 

H2O, maths is not proof of concept. The maths is simply figures from which you are forming your concept.

Proof of concept is having a working unit powering a ICE.... don't think you've got one of these have you?

I know exactly what to think about the likes of Dinkie, Kinesis and Outlaw, but I'm really not sure what to make of you H2O.  Seems to me like your just shouting your mouth off as many have before, making out that you have all the answers, but curiously you seem to expect others to build the unit!  I've heard it all before, people are good at talking the talk - yet to see anyone walk the walk.  And I for one wont be holding my breath while you play with your maths.

What I'd like to know is just where all the power to continually ionise oxygen is coming from in the first place?

Personally, like Meyer before you, I don't for one minute think that you understand the science involved in what your are suggesting, let alone have the electronics know-how to build a proof-of-concept unit.

But don't let that stop you... please, go ahead and prove me wrong!


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #85 on: April 07, 2009, 10:42:43 PM »
This is getting sad. What the hell are you people on?

Outlaw is now throwing religion into the mix - I guess that is to conveniently fill in the missing bits that his brain can't handle or science seemingly can't explain! 

H2O, maths is not proof of concept. The maths is simply figures from which you are forming your concept.

Proof of concept is having a working unit powering a ICE.... don't think you've got one of these have you?

I know exactly what to think about the likes of Dinkie. Kinesis and Outlaw, but I'm really not sure what to make of you H2O.  Seems to me like your just shouting your mouth off as many have before, making out that you have all the answers, but curiously you seem to expect others to build the unit!  I've heard it all before, people are good at talking the talk - yet to see anyone walk the walk.  And I for one wont be holding my breath while you play with your maths.

What I'd like to know is just where all the power to continually ionise oxygen is coming from in the first place?

Personally, like Meyer, I don't for one minute think that you understand the science involved in what your are suggesting, let alone have the electronics know-how to build a proof-of-concept unit.

But don't let that stop you... please, go ahead and prove me wrong!



No. You teach yourself look up and fully understand a corona discharge and that in itself will answer your question, if not, quit. Since you couldn't answer your own question after I posted the video, I think you should just give up and/or quit. I have, more than anyone elses post on this site, looked at your post more than any others. Just like you towards me, I couldn't make you out, what was your goals, what where your asperations, what drives you to write ???

And again, No! You prove me wrong! For that forces you to go over all the math and comparisons made of my research on the water for fuel technology. Make no misstake about it, you come over here and challange me your going to have to do it with the methods of science. Your going to have to ask yourself and answer the very same questions I ask myself, and this question is most important. "How did Stanley Meyer run a 1.6L aluminium engine with an hho production rate of 7L/min.?" It is that question that lies at the heart of me figuring out how Stanley Meyer did what he did. Now you answer this question as best as you can if you find yourself unable to answer the question then quit and find something else to do with your life for you are wasting my time as with the time of others forced to read your post due to trying to figure you out >:(.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #86 on: April 08, 2009, 03:21:02 AM »
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What I'd like to know is just where all the power to continually ionise oxygen is coming from in the first place?

see my mind is like legos in side.. i can SEE what i build.. i can see its reactions i can see displacements.. i can see deflection.. my mind is fully capable of understand natural forces.
im gonna give you 2 answers and you will still call me crazy..

stans delflection occurs in the alternator system due the physical rotation energy of the alternator version.  it can consume up to 8 hp i would say at the most.. it is creating what we would call a circuit.. itself.. since its producing gas, the gas is being burnt, that cause's the mechanical rotation force which is then returning back to production.. so theres a loop of energy recycling there.. stans cell is creating a ANTI GRAVITY atmosphere between excitors.. electrons have the fall feeling toward the positive while positve has a feeling of falling toward the negative.. it is a duality force in action.. to understand duality force you got to know how time works,... its all relative. 

as for the transformer version it is capable of the deflection of electrons and the electron bounce phenomenon due to the type of charge going threw the primary winding.. it is using turbulent amps.. the ontly type you probly understand.. since non turbulent isnt defined yet? i think we should call them outlaws since these amps seem to  not exist..   see i have found the light.. i know how this world works.. you cant see how the tradewinds at the equator  resemble how stans low and high volts(pressure) can interact as a bi direction trade.. you cant see what makes a hurricanne occur and how a hurricane is like turbulent amps in a wire.. im as crazy as they come farrah day.. i hang out with my wang out.. and theres nothin better in life then finding the light.

i understand this tech so well i see how it reacts with human nature.. we live on the northern hemisphere.. sine the matter of earth has a positve charge on this side all the electrons tend to condense in the northern hemisphere.. they get denser the further north u go from the equator.. ever wounder why it seems like all the complexity seems to be in the north? ever wounder why snow flakes become more complex as you go north?  ever wounder why colors are more vivid in the southern hemisphere? look at the birds and animals.. how come we dont have them here? theres less electrons in the southern hemisphere since it repels them .. the earth is naturaly holding the charge plants roots want.. and they are getting way more light..so they grow quicker.. man did you hear about that war australia was in? nope because theres no such talk of that stuff down there.   
now ask your self what the pyramids got to do with all this.. ask your self what the point of all the gold in them was.. ask why they are built at 30deg north lat and 30 deg. longitude..  ask why there linear placement resembles trade winds curve.. ask why are planet is slowly loosing its tilt.. could the pyramids charges of kept the earth in a seasonal resonance?  does there linear placement determine the speed of earths rotation??/ im crazy dont listen to my jargon. lol  this brain of mine i just dont know how it comes to clairty maybe its because i dont follow all the studies that contradict this tech.. hmm or maybe i have a little einstien in me??? this tech has shown me anti gravity, possibilities to quantum mechanics. and overunity as a civilization.. where everybodys  rich.. and the rich i speak of isnt money.. but the real gold knowledge..  look up in the sky.. we rich.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #87 on: April 08, 2009, 05:13:20 AM »
Outlaw,  ;D
I don't think there could be anyway farrah days could argue against that logic.  ;D

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #88 on: April 08, 2009, 07:41:20 PM »
Well H2O, I've now concluded that you're just as misguided as most of the others around here - what a lot of nonsense you talk!

Why would I have to prove you wrong?

I didn't find Meyer very credible, I find you less so. Proof is in the pudding, not the recipe. Once you have a working model you can then put an end to any speculation and skepticism. I, or anyone else does not need to prove you wrong, you simply need to prove yourself right, by building a working model.  Afterall, you made a point of coming over here shouting about how you know how to do it - it's for you to back up you claims, not for us to disprove you. Besides you haven't actually got anything to disprove yet have you... it's all just talk!

I say again, you have nothing but theories until you put your ideas into practise and build a working - proof of concept - model.  And again, where is all the energy to continually ionise oxygen coming from in the first place? 

And do you really expect an oxygen ion missing half a dozen electrons to react with a hydrogen ion? If so how?  Do you expect to get water as a by-product? If so, how?

Exactly what chemical reaction do you expect to get from heavily ionised oxygen and hydrogen? How can they even react?

I don't think you've really thought this through. Gases ionised to extremes won't react as normal, they need too many electrons to stabilise. Like Meyer before you, it all sounds good, but the science simply does not add up!

Outlaw sweetie, has the doctor changed your medication by any chance... because you seem to be tripping on something?


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #89 on: April 08, 2009, 08:05:42 PM »
Well H2O, I've now concluded that you're just as misguided as most of the others around here - what a lot of nonsense you talk!

Why would I have to prove you wrong?

I didn't find Meyer very credible, I find you less so. Proof is in the pudding, not the recipe. Once you have a working model you can then put an end to any speculation and skepticism. I, or anyone else does not need to prove you wrong, you simply need to prove yourself right, by building a working model.  Afterall, you made a point of coming over here shouting about how you know how to do it - it's for you to back up you claims, not for us to disprove you. Besides you haven't actually got anything to disprove yet have you... it's all just talk!

I say again, you have nothing but theories until you put your ideas into practise and build a working - proof of concept - model.  And again, where is all the energy to continually ionise oxygen coming from in the first place? 

And do you really expect an oxygen ion missing half a dozen electrons to react with a hydrogen ion? If so how?  Do you expect to get water as a by-product? If so, how?

Exactly what chemical reaction do you expect to get from heavily ionised oxygen and hydrogen? How can they even react?

I don't think you've really thought this through. Gases ionised to extremes won't react as normal, they need too many electrons to stabilise. Like Meyer before you, it all sounds good, but the science simply does not add up!

Outlaw sweetie, has the doctor changed your medication by any chance... because you seem to be tripping on something?



I can tell you have no idea how speech and debates work, my argument is already out, now the burden of proof lies with you since you are the one with the alternative point of view.

Where is the answer to the question? That one is a bit to hard for you? Like I said before you are just a waste of my time since you can't speak in terms of science. These are ionic reactions, but again you have no knowledge of what that is so it's pointless to talk to you. You still didn't answer your own question after I gave you a hit as to where to find the answer learning what a corona discharge is and how it works every aspect of it.

You are not smart enough to take on the likes of me so go call on some of your butt bodies to help you out, or take the easy way out and quit. For what is your purpose here anyway? What drives you to say and write the things you do? Is it defending your honor? Is it you have a better way of reaching energy independence, but have opt to keep that information all to yourself? Why are you here?

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