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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #285 on: September 16, 2016, 08:28:00 AM »
Then lower the capacitance of each cell and reduce the number of cells and you should be in the ballpark.


I mean no disrespect but I got this, okay? It's been two years since I last posted here and in that time I got at the core science behind this technology and a lot more. The main thing that has changed in my view of things is I know it must be brought out by way of mass production now. I simply refuse to go along with people that want the world to build "One-offs" as that leaves too many in this world without this technology. Through True Green Solutions http://www.truegreensolutions.net/ I will attempt to do things the right way so that the technology can be affordable for the masses. It's going to take time as I have an uphill battle in trying to build the company from the ground up. Most in the Open Source community tend to be against my actions in trying to do this but I have too as these are the rules of the market and I already know there simply is no getting around them. That is something the Open Source community still has yet to learn.

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« Reply #286 on: September 16, 2016, 05:26:52 PM »
I guess you know what you are doing Ed.  Hope you're right. 

If it were me, I'd assemble about 20 fully operational prototypes and give them away for peer review.  Those reviews will be the cheapest marketing you are going to find.  With thumbs up from all reviewers, only then would I consider mass production.

There are two rules you must follow if you continue on your current path:

#1  If you do not take care of the customer, somebody else will.
#2  The customer is always right.

Translation --  Nobody cares what you think you have.  You have to prove yourself to them.  They will happily beat you to a pulp if your product does not live up to their expectations.  One whiner will end any and all funding you otherwise might have received.  That's the cruel reality of "the markets" you speak about.  Bring your A-game or stay home.



BTW, these guys have far more complex technology; they're OpenSource too.  Buy theirs or build it yourself, either way everyone wins.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #287 on: September 16, 2016, 08:56:40 PM »
I guess you know what you are doing Ed.  Hope you're right. 

If it were me, I'd assemble about 20 fully operational prototypes and give them away for peer review.  Those reviews will be the cheapest marketing you are going to find.  With thumbs up from all reviewers, only then would I consider mass production.

There are two rules you must follow if you continue on your current path:

#1  If you do not take care of the customer, somebody else will.
#2  The customer is always right.

Translation --  Nobody cares what you think you have.  You have to prove yourself to them.  They will happily beat you to a pulp if your product does not live up to their expectations.  One whiner will end any and all funding you otherwise might have received.  That's the cruel reality of "the markets" you speak about.  Bring your A-game or stay home.



BTW, these guys have far more complex technology; they're OpenSource too.  Buy theirs or build it yourself, either way everyone wins.


Thanks for understanding. For the most part I will follow Elon Musk lead and build the company up and then start Open Sourcing things if I see no one is able to follow me. Right now it sure looks like no one is able to follow me as I generally stand alone in my pursuit of high voltage being applied to the exciter array with a modified AC waveform. Like I told the other gentleman, I don't know of any one else getting voltages this high to their cells other than myself. One thing I will not do is agree to have the general public start building "One-offs," as that is the most expensive way to go about building anything and would thus leave most of the worlds population to not have this technology.


You have to think about the target of the things that are Open Sourced as when Elon Musk did it just who was the target for making use of what he Open Sourced as it sure wasn't you or I? If we were the targets then we would be able to build us one and park our gasoline driven cars but we weren't the targets for we simply don't have enough money to build something like that as a "One-off." That targeted people would be those whom own companies that are already set up for mass production, you see they are the targets for Elon's Open Source. This technology is no different in that the cost to build things the correct way would be far too high for most people to be able to afford if they had to build it as a "One-off." The only way around this is to get a lot of other people to buy it at the same time from the same company that will be making it. But I have seen first hand on many occasions how when money gets involved no one is willing to work together as one in these Open Source communities for it requires all to trust one person with their money to do the right thing. I have tried several times to get these communities members to work as one so that all could have this technology at a good price and not once did it ever work. I had to go outside of the Open Source communities to accomplish this mission. This is how there are several Gas Processors and Exciter Arrays in the hands of a few people that did work together with me. We came together to act as one which gave us the power to drive the cost down for each of us as we each understood the rules of the markets.


Hopefully in the future the Open Source community will learn these market rules and act accordingly. I have a company and if it has the support of the people it will be successful at getting this technology out to those that need it most. In any case if people in these Open Source communities come together pool their monies and ask me to build in bulk for them they will get the best prices I can give them as I am willing to work with them.



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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #288 on: September 16, 2016, 10:50:57 PM »
Ed,

Have you considered teaming up with an already established company such as one of these:

http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/

http://www.greenfuelh2o.com/

I've bought from both of them in the past and they have good prices and quality products.  Adding your stuff to their line-up couldn't hurt.  Might be a good way to get your foot in the door without having to do all the dirty work yourself.


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« Reply #289 on: September 17, 2016, 02:10:00 AM »
Not really as my market is different than theirs and then there's the question of control of the product. You see right now those companies, and any others like them, are competitors to True Green Solutions but as I stated our market is different. This technology requires none of the toxic products (electrolyte) their products are introducing to our environment for this technology only adds water with no toxic salts, acids, or bases to the system. Not one of them has done an impact study on those devices they sell that are adding those pollutants to our environment yet. They tell people to drain their cell before they go to use one of their cleaners but drain it where? on the ground? Then once it is cleaned again they tell you to drain it out with tap water and then put the toxic chemicals back in the device. I am not sure what you call this but I call it being irresponsible as they are polluting the environment they state they are trying to clear up from the oil company's pollution. Two wrongs don't make a right as they both are polluting our world in different ways.


Now to put this in perspective for you. Lets say that for the state of California that 50% of all the cars on the road use their products. This would be around 19 million cars dumping those toxins into our water supply. You want to talk about a mess as we are only talking about one state doing this. So as far as I am concerned they have to be put out of business too for the increased demand for the creation of these toxic chemicals will also aid towards polluting our world.


In general I find that most people do think like this as all they care about is the savings they might get from the promise of needing to use less gasoline while others do actually care about trying to clean our air but fail to take into account the impact on our environment when we go about using these toxic chemicals in mass. Thus I fully expect these companies to side with the oil companies for it will be in their best interest to do so, but who knows they might just surprise me.

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« Reply #289 on: September 17, 2016, 02:10:00 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #290 on: December 18, 2016, 02:08:48 AM »
Hello Everyone,


With the year winding down it would seem that next year now has the promise of bringing this technology to the market place. Mostly I have been playing the waiting game this year in trying to get some parts built for me and have had to wait for over six months now to get the bobbins for the newest VIC transformer to be made for me. I feel I have most of the science figured out but can only get the unit working for a small amount of time as the transformers tend to burn out on me. I am currently trying to solve this problem and have no idea how much time that is going to take. Basically I am finding out that understanding the science behind this technology and building it correctly are two different things but they can't do without one another for without the understanding of the science behind the technology I would have never figured how to get the voltages up to the exciter array.


Now I have built and tested many different versions of Meyer's VIC transformer that being the, figure 3-25, figure 6-1, and the 10-4 versions of Meyer VIC transformers. I like the figure 6-1 the best thus far as it is the least confusing of the bunch when it comes time to wire it all up and from a business perspective would have the least amount of labor cost attached to it when going into mass production. A lot of these pictures I have never shown anyone before but I do so now for those whom think I have only tested out one of Meyer's many different types of transformers found in his patents. For as you can see I have been very busy working on all of the many types of transformers found in the patents to include the donut transformer (not shown).


The goal in doing all of this is to figure out this technology by actually doing the work and testing it so that I would allow myself to see with my own eyes just what they do when tested and experimented with in the real world.


Now I went back and re-read this entire thread to see if I missed anything or have some things changed with new understanding and the answer it yes, somethings have changed, but the over all concept(s) have remained the same for the most part as it's all about ionizing the atoms that make up the water molecules. I started this thread as a challenged to get people building this technology and sadly not many if any stepped up to the plate to build and test their own designs. Also when I started this thread I was a believer in Open Source and that too has changed as I no longer believe in Open Source for it would have everyone building "One-Offs" which is the most expensive way to go about building anything and thus would leave many in this world without this technology. I looked over the many people whom have come and gone since this thread was started and the many that just felt I owed them something and/or just came here to pick a fight with me and will have to say I have changed a lot since then, hopefully for the better.


A lot of links no longer work due to the site it was on has shut down since the time this thread was started. In fact many people are no longer working on this technology as it turned out to be far harder than they ever imagined to get all the "Why's" answered. I still have quite a few "Why's" that need to be answered but I feel I have answered enough of them to get parts of the technology up and running once I get all the parts I need to make them work.


In time I will need everyone's help as this technology will be just starting off.
Take care all and I hope this next year to be the one this technology finally makes it to the market place.
Ed

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #291 on: December 18, 2016, 03:15:16 AM »
Well Ed, I'm a little confused.

1.  You don't believe in OpenSource, yet you post publicly here at overunity.com.
2.  You want to build something that can be mass produced and sold where?
3.  You need everyone's help to get this off the ground, yet you scorn one-offs.

I sense a lot of mixed signals in your postings and very little hard-core details such as:
  * How to impedance match the coils to the cell.
  * How to tune the system once assembled.
  * Where to get off-the-shelf parts.
  * How concepts like Coulomb's Law apply to splitting water molecules.
  * Electrical schematics and scope shots showing the exact needed waveforms.

I sometimes feel this is just your hobby Ed and you have no real desire to "save the world".
I also don't feel you have the motivation to re-create this technology and share it
in a form people can immediately get their hands on and begin to replicate.
And lastly, I doubt very much you have the guts to get yourself and your
family killed over this technology.  Maybe someday you'll get lucky, get
something to work and the MiBs will offer to buy you out and you can
live happily ever after.  I know in the case of Mr. Walker, he found what
he was looking for and can now go to his grave with a smile on his face.
Myself, I'd rather be JFK'd doing what I know needs to be done.  My life
means nothing; what I take with me means everything.  Do you have
what it takes Ed?  I'm not asking you this to piss you off.  I'm asking you
this so you might take a deep look into your soul and define your purpose.

I'd like nothing better than to see you setup a complete system with ICE
and generator attached and fire this all up for the very first time on live
streaming cameras, so the whole world could see you prove this technology
out.  I'd like those streams to be so rich in detail that only a complete
idiot could not figure out what you have built.  Do it Ed, do it.  Let the
genie out of the bottle so it can never again be put back in.  Get angry.
Develop a hatred for silence, obscurity and falsehoods.  Let it all go.
Make a difference.  Make your mark in this 21st century.  And just
remember what Will Munny said in the movie Unforgiven...

   We all got it comin' kid.




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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #292 on: December 18, 2016, 05:25:32 AM »
Well Ed, I'm a little confused.

1.  You don't believe in OpenSource, yet you post publicly here at overunity.com.
2.  You want to build something that can be mass produced and sold where?
3.  You need everyone's help to get this off the ground, yet you scorn one-offs.

I sense a lot of mixed signals in your postings and very little hard-core details such as:
  * How to impedance match the coils to the cell.
  * How to tune the system once assembled.
  * Where to get off-the-shelf parts.
  * How concepts like Coulomb's Law apply to splitting water molecules.
  * Electrical schematics and scope shots showing the exact needed waveforms.

I sometimes feel this is just your hobby Ed and you have no real desire to "save the world".
I also don't feel you have the motivation to re-create this technology and share it
in a form people can immediately get their hands on and begin to replicate.
And lastly, I doubt very much you have the guts to get yourself and your
family killed over this technology.  Maybe someday you'll get lucky, get
something to work and the MiBs will offer to buy you out and you can
live happily ever after.  I know in the case of Mr. Walker, he found what
he was looking for and can now go to his grave with a smile on his face.
Myself, I'd rather be JFK'd doing what I know needs to be done.  My life
means nothing; what I take with me means everything.  Do you have
what it takes Ed?  I'm not asking you this to piss you off.  I'm asking you
this so you might take a deep look into your soul and define your purpose.

I'd like nothing better than to see you setup a complete system with ICE
and generator attached and fire this all up for the very first time on live
streaming cameras, so the whole world could see you prove this technology
out.  I'd like those streams to be so rich in detail that only a complete
idiot could not figure out what you have built.  Do it Ed, do it.  Let the
genie out of the bottle so it can never again be put back in.  Get angry.
Develop a hatred for silence, obscurity and falsehoods.  Let it all go.
Make a difference.  Make your mark in this 21st century.  And just
remember what Will Munny said in the movie Unforgiven...

   We all got it comin' kid.


You don't know me and more than likely never will so, forgive me for not wanting to prove anything to you. Honestly I simply don't view the world as most people do as I tend to look at the big picture once I am able to see it. I tested Open Source to make sure what I found out about it really was the truth about it: http://aetherforce.com/truth-open-source-inventors-perspective/
As you seem to be aware I am the last of the old guys still working on this technology now as the rest of them have moved on with their lives. Some are just tired of failing all the time, a few fill they went as far as they could go and shared it all, while others are having health problems. From my perspective only confusion has come from their work on this technology to the point of making sure no one will be able to solve this technology if they are listened too. As for me the only thing I tire of is people like you demanding me to do as you say and/or trying to force me to see your way of thinking or point of view. I no longer follow the path that is most traveled now. I don't buy into turning movie fiction into real world realities nor do I follow the old ways all that much anymore. I have a path laid before me that I am following where it leads only the creator knows but follow it I must.


I don't know of this, "Got what it takes" thing you speak of nor do I want to know as it sounds very restrictive. I'll stick with the world of reality as here I know the rules as anyone that knows much about the markets knows to build a "One-Off" cost big bucks as that is how the markets work and there simply is no getting around that in this world. In what I will be asking of everyone is simply, help this technology go into mass production so that the per unit cost is driven down so that the masses can afford to buy it.


This technology isn't like Dr. Faraday's electrolysis as it is a complex technology where things have to be built with precision. Meyer's talk of using off the shelf items simply isn't true as I have built more of his technology than most and trust me it cost a lot of money and you can't go to your local Home Depot and buy the things you need to get this technology up and running correctly. After what Don Gable showed us about Meyer's technology anyone still believing that lie is a fool. I am not going to play your game as I choose to opt out and have been out for a long time now. I post what I post to help people understand the science behind this technology, complete with just how the waveform is supposed to look like and why it is supposed to look that way. Even the theory has scientific evidence backing it up. But like most that love to argue with me they want it all handed to them on a silver platter and to that I say no. I don't have all the answers to this technology yet as I still have a lot more to learn for I have a lot of "Why's" that need answering still. Like it or not basically I am all you have got right now as Ronnie, Max, Russ, and a whole lot of others are gone now. Those that remain aren't really working on Meyer's technology are they? Most are stuck in a loop in how they are approaching this technology as they come, then go away, only to return sometime later and do it all over again for a new crowd of people.


A little news flash, anyone that tells you that the waveform that I have been showing people is incorrect will never be able to solve this technology as that waveform is fundamental to how this technology actually works. In the pdf file I posted that should be very clear now, but I take it you have never taken the time to read it, correct? There is nothing I can do about that as I can give people knowledge but I can't force them to read and/or understand it. With all of the disinformation out there it truly makes it hard for people to know just whom to trust now days doesn't it? High voltage low amps isn't that what Meyer always said? Well, I have that and thus far stand alone in doing so as far as I can tell. Ronnie fears that I am going to blow something up but fails to understand that only 0.6 mA really isn't enough to arc the distance between the plates of the exciter array, plus he also fails to understand that the voltage is being divided by all the resonant cavities in the exciter array as they are hooked up in series. So, I will not be having any, "Catastrophic Dielectric Failure,"and blow everything up, okay? As for your being a bit confused I have no desire to give you any clarity as I have posted a lot of what I know for right now and that's that, and given our past dealings with one another, take it or leave it.




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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #293 on: July 24, 2017, 07:52:04 PM »
I went over this thread and noticed that I didn't share the video interview that John Fraser took of Gunther and I while we were at the 2013 Global Breakthrough Energy Movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6G4yIyLdY&t=61s


I have also re-looked at the video and noticed things have changed a lot in my understanding about this technology as hooking up these transformers in parallel doesn't work out to well. But the core science hasn't changed as it is the real science behind this technology as basically this technology makes it possible to hold the power of a thunderstorm in the palm of your hands. The voltages shown being applied to the excitor array has never been duplicated by anyone that I know of to this day. That cell shown in the video would need to reach 12kv or more to reach the threshold for ionization of the atoms that make up the water molecules since it has twelve resonant cavities wired in series and not 7.5kv as I thought back then. My new excitor arrays have only ten resonant cavities wired in series thus to reach the threshold for ionization would require 10kv of potential difference or more based on the information Meyer gave us in the patents where each resonant cavity will require 1kv of potential difference or more to get it working.


Now I am no longer doing any teaching of this technology as now all of my efforts and energies are being put into trying to actually bring this technology into the marketplace. So, these videos are basically the last teaching videos I will make for this technology. I also wrote a few follow up articles to this video on the Aether Force site. After dealing with Russ Gries and the moderators on RWG site and recently on the ionizationx site I have given up on trying to teach others this technology for there are just too many fakes out there pushing lies as the truth. You can't have a lie living right along side of the truth for one technology and sadly most people seem to prefer being lied to. It really shocked me that after I proved one member of the Ionizationx forum known as "Fabio/Sebosfato" to be outright lying to the entire group that his word was still being taken over mines. It was then I made up my mind that trying to teach this technology was basically a waste of time for there will always be some slick talker to come along and completely fool the masses.


So now all I am working towards is to actually bring this technology into the marketplace. I hope when the time comes that everyone on this forum will give their support for this technology, but sadly I can already see that some people will not be giving this technology their support as I asked them and got zero answers back to my questions concerning whether or not will they give their support when I move forwards with this technology. So, the "EGO" wars are still in full effect even though I have proven that I can do what no one else has been able to do with this technology as it's going on five years since that video was made and no one has duplicated those results shown in that video to this day. And note, I have move well beyond those results since then applying more than double the voltages to the excitor array than what was shown in the video interview now.
All I hope for now is the support of the people when this technology comes out as without support no technology can survive.


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« Reply #294 on: October 10, 2017, 03:50:38 AM »
Well, RWG team gave me the full boot out of their site after I started talking about how we all must obey the rules of the markets. They didn't like it right from the start when I posted something about those whom are trying to get Russ to do things behind closed doors whom are actually the ones paying the bills as I stated that perhaps those people understand the rules of the marketplace.
Often times I wonder just where does this ignorance of how the markets actually work comes from in times like these as now to be ignorant of how these things work is a clear choice with the internet and all. All one needs to do now to understand the basics about how the markets work is run a google search and read up on it. So, this is a deliberate choice to be ignorant and I wonder what could be the motives driving their actions over there at the RWG site?

Talked to Russ and he states he had nothing to do with it and I believe him but I also know that it said I was KICKED OUT when I logged back in.


I wrote about this awhile ago when I ran into these problems in the past with a few more sites here: http://aetherforce.com/the-self-appointed-gatekeepers-soft-suppression/?relatedposts_hit=1&relatedposts_origin=78183&relatedposts_position=1

These people have no idea just what "Open Source" really is as open source only works for things that do not require any materials in which things must be built as the very second materials have to be brought then the rules of the markets kick in and the name of that game is buying in bulk. Anyone telling you otherwise is just lying to your face. Software is an example of something that can be Open Sourced as it's just a computer program or operating system. Making something as simply as a piece of paper requires materials, and machines which all cost money and are subject to supply and demand.  So to build a "One Off" is the most costly way to go about building something and this is how these people want technologies like Meyer's water for fuel tech to be put out to this world. This act would make this technology unattainable for billions of people as not only would one have to build just one of these devices but they would also have to understand how to put it to use in a safe manor that wouldn't get them killed or kill anyone else.


Why is it people have such a hard time understanding these simply concepts? I think the term "Free Energy" has been taken out of context in far too many online forums as the people in these forums think that the devices will cost them nothing to build and even less to implement into their lives. It's sad when you think about it as basically what has happened is greed has been used as a weapon against technologies like these where the very people that need it most are too greedy to want to pay for it or support someone trying to bring these technologies to the marketplace in a way that follows mass production so that it is cheap for everyone to have. I have a feeling that some well paid think tank put out these terms knowing full well that they would actually work to stop these technologies from coming out. Most forums that I have been on have fallen for these tricks hook, line, and sinker as all that is required for these tricks to work is for someone have a touch of greed about their personality. It's sad when you think about it as in these forums is supposed to be the world's brightest and they fell for these tricks put out by the powers that be to maintain their empires.


Well, I guess it is what it is, huh? 

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« Reply #295 on: October 10, 2017, 05:00:52 AM »

It seems you are right back in the chat...  Hummm.. 

It's to bad you can't forgive and forget.

I spend the time calling you on Skype and apologizing for anything that you saw wrong.

And you still wright this stuff about me.

Well wright away.

 However to the reader. Make up your own choice. Look at what I have done and you'll see I'm just a human trying to do somthing for the world

I make mestskes. However I aploigise when I do and say sorry.

It's up to that other person to forgive.

One must move. I feel sorry for you ED. You seem like your trying to do somthing good

But every time I look around I see you bashing on others. And because I know the story I call tell the truth about the past if anyone asks.

However I rather move on. As I already have.

Best of luck and please. If your not open soruce. Stop posting in places that are.

Just get that thing done and sell it. If thats your goal. Because this is a waist of time worring about everyone else.

And especially those who already forgave any thing from the past.

I will post no more.

It's now up to the reader to make there choice.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #296 on: October 10, 2017, 08:26:20 PM »
Russ apologizing to me isn't what was needed but the truth about how I was called a cheat trying to rip off the members of the RWG when I was doing no such thing. Like I said to you the hole you have allowed to be dug around these outright lies abut me is now too deep to fix for you now as it would more than likely result in the loss of the few remaining followers that you still have. You say I bashed people but in all truth I only told those people a truth they simply didn't want to hear and in each case I have now been proven to be right on the issues as I followed where the science lead me. But I guess you and yours aren't use to someone whom knows how to fight back for as soon as I proceed to do so you yell at the top of your lungs that I am bashing those whom attacked me. What you don't understand that everyone on this site has seen just how sick these people are whom come to attack me on the issues of Meyer's technology. They got to see it with their own eyes as this individual that followed me from your site exposed himself on this site.


But sadly you still think I bashed all those people whom rose up against me when I was just following the science and telling everyone what I had learned from the many experiments I have run on this technology. I performed these experiments showed what was going on and almost instantly envy set in among the members of the RWG site to include yourself. On your site you have the power to shut me down but here on this site you have no such power and I am finally free to tell the truth of the matter. Ever since my partner and I went to the 2013 Global BEM and showed for the very first time ever that a high voltage could be placed directly to a water bath in an exciter array. Then I put 4.2kv to the exciter array that had 12 resonant cavities wired in series which gives 350 volts per resonant cavity. I thought this amount of progress would be welcomed on your site but just the opposite happened. People came out of the woodwork to bash my partner and I and went out of their way to put down any science I shared with the world on the interview video done by John Fraser. It was around that time the you approached my partner trying to get him to leave me and join you and your team. Don't attempt to deny this as my partner will just come on this site and tell the truth of your backdoor dealings.


Sadly since all of you at the RWG rejected the science I was putting out about this technology none of you have made any real progress since 2013 while I went from 4.2kv to 9.4kv being applied to the excitor array giving a wonderful 940 volts per resonant cavity but sadly still short of Meyer's stated working conditions of 1kv or more per resonant cavity. You should have known better to come and try and save face in a place you simply could not control as you have done so many times in the past with me. On your site there is no real progress being made on Meyer's technology for none of you know much of anything about how to actually go about solving unknowns making use of the scientific method. I see nothing but endless circles on this technology at the RWG site. But it's the envy the members of your site had towards my many progresses in getting the voltage up that pushed you to mute me on your site as they demanded it and being ever so envious yourself you obliged. So, you succeeded in muting my voice and shutting out the real science about Meyer's technology on your site is what you actually accomplished because there you have the power to do so but not here.


The one thing you and many others like you whom have rose up against me in the past fear is that I just might succeed with this technology and I am telling you now that all of your fears have come true. I know it's a true slap in the face for you and all the others whom chose to mute my voice out due to your envious feelings of my work and the successes I have been having at getting the voltage up over time with my work. For if I succeed then you all know that I was right and you should have listened to me instead of shut me down at every turn in the places you all had under your control. I know that all the sites the banned me will be feeling really bad in the very near future for how they told the one trying to steer them in the right direction to go put it where the sun doesn't shine. I go out of my way to tell you and many others the truth about just what Open Source truly is and again my voice is stomped into muteness in the places where you all control the narrative but you have no power here to mute my voice as you have done so so many times in the past when you didn't like the truths I was putting out. Open Source isn't for technologies that require materials to build something for the way Open Source would have the worlds population do things is to each his own making One-Offs which as I have stated many times in the past is the most costly way to go about building anything. When materials are required to build something then the rules of the markets kick in and none of us can get around those rules as that's a crap sandwich we all are forced to eat. You see I know your fears and my solving this technology is way up high on that list of yours, but you are not alone as all sites that have banned me in the past share those same fears. As it goes to show that when the truth came knocking at your doors you did all you could to turn the truth away and prevent it from entering into your dwellings. In all truth I feel sorry for all of you as I was totally willing to allow each and everyone of you to learn this technology with me provided you do your own work as I was doing my partner called it load sharing. I wanted things to be like in a real scientific world where we all worked towards a goal and went over the science we had collected from our many experiments. But sadly no one was willing to do any work and preferred that I do all the work and simply hand over what I had learned about this technology to them free of charge. We all know how that action went down as I simply started keeping my mouth shut as not many were willing to work with me from the ground up.


It's not enough for you to apologize as you have to take corrective action in clearing my good name over and over again until the damage that you did is made whole again. How to you expect me to look past those evil things you did when you come here and try and tell everyone that I bashed people when all I really did was tell them truths they simply didn't want to hear? I remember some of those arguments when I told people that the working voltages for this technology was 1000 volts or more. People jumped all over me for saying that and when I posted the source from Meyer's own words what did I get from everyone? Silence is what I got. In fact each time I'd talk about something I'd be attacked in the same way over and over again even when I proved that the water is being separated by ionization from Meyer's own words. In fact I challenge you to show someplace where I didn't tell the truth. Think you can do that? Now there are places where I made mistakes but most of the time I was the one to catch and correct those mistakes and tell everyone that I in fact got something wrong. However I do recall someone correcting me when I was trying to figure out what "Bidirectional Wrap" meant. I had found something that showed it being wrapped in two directions at a 45° angle. He showed me that I simply had to break down the word thus Bi = two and Directional = in which direction it was to be wrapped which clearly showed me that the 45° part I had gotten incorrect as it is to be wrapped all in one direction and then back again on top of the one that was previously wrapped without breaking the wire, thus wrapping the primary in two directions. Meyer used that word to throw everyone off as it wasn't a word that could be simply looked up in a dictionary.


I think the problem is you are not use to dealing with someone whom likes to tell the truth that also has a very good memory. So to come here and openly say I have bashed people I say, "Prove it!"


Ed


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #297 on: October 11, 2017, 07:12:37 PM »
This post is to give credit where credit is due. The person that helped me to understand what the word, "Bidirectional Wrap," meant was Jerry Volland. Most of the time he and I didn't see eye to eye on much of anything as I'd be doing actual experiments and he would be dreaming up ideas expecting me to accept those unproven ideas as fact over the my experimental observations. But none the less I am thankful for his help as that one word took me for a loop.
In my studies searching for the meaning of this word this is what I found that had the word "Bi-directional Wrap" actually used. It should be clear how I got the 45° angle mixed up in the meaning of the word.


Now getting back to Russ for a bit more clarity. I think he, Russ, would come into the middle of a fight that someone started with me and see that they were losing the fight, in which they started, badly then assume that I was bashing on them. In fact most of the time I spent at the RWG site I'd be defending myself from one fight after another people had started with me with almost no let up. I'd talk about my experimental results and some not so smart Chap would come in to tell me that I didn't see what I thought I saw. Some of these people even made entire videos and alternate threads just to bash me and/or try and disprove what I was sharing with everyone. A lot of the times when they did so it would be reviled that they didn't have the proper test equipment to read this technology, thus would be flying in the blind, or that they weren't even running any experiments at all for what they had to say was pure speculation based on some ideas they would have in their heads. Russ seemingly would not take the time to see what was actually going on and assume that I was bashing people when the truth was I was merely defending myself from fights they started with me. I hope this clears things up a bit.
Oh, and to add to insult they did ban me as just look at the next attachment. Now you know a bit more about how Russ and/or his minions actually operates for if they can't control the situation or what is known at the narrative then he or his minions (haxar) ban you.
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #298 on: October 18, 2017, 03:53:06 PM »
Well Ed,i must say that i was a little upset with Russ my self not so long ago.

I hadnt heard from him in a long time,only to see he posted a video directed at my work i was doing at the time,pointing out mistakes he thought i had made.

If he had of been following the thread at OUR,where i was asked to take voltage and current measurements separately,then maybe he would have understood what i was showing.
Needless to say,he did the measurements incorrectly him self in his video,where he showed the phase shift between two current value's,instead of the phase relationship between voltage and current that relates to power factor.

But none the less,I still believe in Russ,and what he is doing for the community.
I also still have the up most respect for him,and would have a cuppa or beer with him any day.

We (Russ and myself) gave birth to the pulse motor build off's,which was a huge success for the years it was in play. The buldoff's just seemed to bring so many people together,and was a wack of fun.

Russ and myself use to be as thick as thieves,and it saddens me some what that we no longer seem to get together,and have a yarn.

Anyway Ed--forgive and forget--thats what i say.

Brad

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #299 on: October 18, 2017, 11:30:20 PM »
Well Ed,i must say that i was a little upset with Russ my self not so long ago.

I hadnt heard from him in a long time,only to see he posted a video directed at my work i was doing at the time,pointing out mistakes he thought i had made.

If he had of been following the thread at OUR,where i was asked to take voltage and current measurements separately,then maybe he would have understood what i was showing.
Needless to say,he did the measurements incorrectly him self in his video,where he showed the phase shift between two current value's,instead of the phase relationship between voltage and current that relates to power factor.

But none the less,I still believe in Russ,and what he is doing for the community.
I also still have the up most respect for him,and would have a cuppa or beer with him any day.

We (Russ and myself) gave birth to the pulse motor build off's,which was a huge success for the years it was in play. The buldoff's just seemed to bring so many people together,and was a wack of fun.

Russ and myself use to be as thick as thieves,and it saddens me some what that we no longer seem to get together,and have a yarn.

Anyway Ed--forgive and forget--thats what i say.

Brad


It's tough with Russ and I as the history we have together is long and even though he will send me emails saying that he loves me his actions speak something entirely different to the point where it makes him out to be a hypocrite. It all went south when I tried to make an excitor array for everyone so that we could all be working on the same cell which would cut out some variables on our way towards solving Meyer's technology. This way we all would have the same cell and could share our work more effectively as we would be working from the same cell exactly. Russ and others saw it as if I was trying to steal money from Russ's crowdfunding thing he had going on at the time and I was accused by quite a few people as to be trying to rip off the members on the RWG form. Now the cell would have cost everyone $1000 USD each and this was at a time when Max was selling a cell for $2500 USD. Then someone else thought they would undercut the price I was selling them at to prove I was trying to rip everyone off failed because he found out it would cost him $1400 USD without shipping, wiring the thing up, and no float switch or hose connections of any kind which the ones I was offering everyone did come with. After he failed to prove I was trying to rip people off Russ, whom says he loves me, wouldn't come to my aid to clear my good name. All I was trying to do was to get us all working on the same cell so that we could compare numbers more effectively.
The reason no one could beat the prices I was offering them at to the RWG members was I was selling them at a loss which I made perfectly clear to Russ to try and get him to go to the site and clear my good name. For every ten units made I'd lose $100 USD out of my own pocket but to me it was worth it as we needed some sort of standardization so that we all could work together far more effectively. I tried several times to get Russ to go to the site and clear my good name but he simply wouldn't do so and still hasn't done so to this very day. It took me awhile to figure out why it was he would do so as that would mess up his funding that was pouring in from his site or that's what I summed it all down to. So, he was totally willing to allow me to be tossed under the bus.
He tried to apologize to me personally but I made it clear to him that it had to be done in a public way to clear my good name for my good name was smeared in a public place with these outright lies. Even now he comes to this site and accuses me of bashing people when all I was doing was defending myself when people picked fights with me. Those that chose to pick fights with me generally lost very badly as I was actually doing the work with all the proper equipment while most if not all of the work they were doing only took place between their ears. It seem to upset Russ to see me wining each and ever fight someone would chose to have with me no matter whom it was that chose to get into a fight with me. But he had none of those feelings for me the one actually getting picked on by so many people at once. Some of those people that picked fights with me were the monitors of the form and when they too started to lose badly they suspend me.  But I decided to leave their forum in a public way and they tried to keep all of my work after I had asked them nicely to take it all down. I threatened to sue them if all of my post and work wasn't taken down from their site and with great reluctance they finally took it all down.


Then after they saw me perform the impossible at the 2013 Global Breakthrough Energy Movement they allowed me back on the forum with the hopes that I would show them how I did it but in secret it was really done out of spike as you see the first time I willing chose to leave the forum and made it clear that I was the one doing so due to the double standard they had placed on those of us with businesses. This time they moved to ban me out of pure spike just so they could say that they banned me. But then I wrote a paper about it and they got wind of it and allowed me to not be banned but also not be able to make a single post on their site, but somehow I could still post in the chat room which was something they didn't anticipate. They got to talking about some people trying to get Russ to do things behind closed doors and I mentioned that perhaps those people understood how the markets actually worked. That got haxar really hot and he started kicking me out of the chat room and would take great joy in actually typing in the words, "Kicked Out," as if you shut down the page it would say that you had, "Logged Out." Now he was hiding behind his powers at the RWG and when I called him on being the one that had did the deed he then moved to give me the full ban which I posted above that I took a picture of before he could ban my computers IP address. There are some very evil people working for and/or on Russ's behalf, and haxar is one of those evil people. So for me they really haven't stopped their attacks on me as several of them came to this site to post negative things about me that had no truth in them or they would just start telling me that I had it coming, or I had to pay for something I had done in the past to them.


The irony of all of this will take place once they see and/or learn through the grapevine that I have a working prototype up and running. For it will be at the very moment that they will know that they had a chance to have this technology also if they had simply played by the rules and followed the scientific method as I had always ask them to follow. Yep, at that moment they will be going over anything they can find on the net about my work and trying to create new names from which to hide under trying to get/trick me into telling them how it all works. I think I already let it be known on this site that I simply do not teach this technology anymore as I have had my fill of these types of people.


Now I will choose to forgive Russ and his minions for what they have done but I will never forget as to do so would allow it to happen all over again.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
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