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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer Explained  (Read 138771 times)

Offline Outlawstc

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2009, 08:41:35 PM »
the secondary side only shows for one phase.. there are 3 in all.  120 out from each other which is what creates more of  a pure dc potential.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2009, 11:27:14 PM »
Hi Outlawstc,
On the WFC the electron extraction circuit shares the positive electrode and is pulsed in the off times. That circuit(transformer) looks interesting, how is it working out for you?

On the other question you had about the spark a simple analogy will do. In a gasloine engine if the gas is atomized mixed with air and then gets no spark what happens? It's the same thing with the water injectors, since they are making hydrogen and oxygen by way of micro-mini capacitors. If you don't spark the reaction off it will not fire. The unstable oxygen atoms need this spark of energy to get started too. The rules of using fuels has not been changed just the type of fuel being used.

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Offline Outlawstc

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2009, 01:03:23 AM »
i havent made it yet.. it is based of the multi spool drawing and the alternator setup. 

so you would agree that the injector is needed and that its ignition is based off thermal ignition caused by crossing voltage wave guide that consist of this capacitaded fuel gas.. causeing thermal/ static ignition of some sorts?


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2009, 07:47:22 AM »
No,
The injectors work exactly how science has shown me they do, by letting voltage perform work on the water molecule, and doing so in a way that takes full advantage of the properties of water. For the most part the way the injectors work is like a Kelvin generator, but it can be done in other ways. The most important part is creating atomized water mist that has been given an electric charge, making sure the conditions are such that the relaxation time of water is greater than the evaporation time, then mixing in charged air gases and recirculated exhaust gases. This resulting fuel mixture can either be spark or heat ignited, it says that right in the patent too many times to be just passed over, for it is important.

Most people have a problem with all of this for they are looking for some sort of magic, and/or been at it too long the wrong way. The anniversary of Stanley Meyer is on the 20th and I think it is about time someone made the man proud. In time I hope it becomes a global holiday for he did something to help humanity in it's time of need. All I did is figure out how he was able to use water as a fuel, and posted the results so everyone can enjoy energy independence. For in the end the credit goes to the pioneers of the water for fuel technology. For without Stanley Meyer's patents no one would be able to get pass all of the road blocks those protecting their interest have set up for this technology to fail. The patent has expired and now just as long as we stay within 14%, I think, we can build the units and use his patent when others try to repatent any idea of this sort of water for fuel system. Stanley Meyer opened up the doorway so that we all are free to walk through it. And now everyone the time is.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2009, 11:40:11 AM »
well said h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2009, 06:05:40 PM »
Indeed this is a great approach to the technology. Thanks for all of your work to understand the concepts while keeping the right mind space and letting the credit remain with the man who gave his life for the idea.

This gives me chills of excitement just thinking about the possibilities and I cant wait to see where it goes! I just need to wrap my head around it all and try to contribute as much as I can to the community and make it a reality for our world.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2009, 06:52:44 PM »
@h20power,
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All I did is figure out how he was able to use water as a fuel, and posted the results so everyone can enjoy energy independence.

Does this mean you, or anyone else, has a working model putting out gas like Stan's, if this is already figured out have I missed the plans to construct this device? Why doesn't everyone quite working on this theoretically and start building?  I guess I don't get where you are coming from when you say this has all been figured out already, are you withholding knowledge from us and why? Where is a working unit posted here so I may see how all this works? Thank you.

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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2009, 07:39:39 PM »
@Room3327

Now I am going to set this up as an engineering project as a result I will not tell you how to build, construct, and/or design your projects if you so choose to make them. The idea is simple, to get as many different models as possible that all work. You will be shown where the power truly comes from and how everything works for the water fuel injector system, not the WFC in use with the gasous type injectors. Read them as a set of rules to follow, anyway you see fit on how to apply what you have read is up to you.

Again I stress that this is to be a engineering type project, the full build of the design shall come from the individual and/or teams that want to work together on it. And most important of all is to have fun ;D.

Enjoy: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-7.html#post47874

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained.html

I have to stick to my guns on this, trust me I will not bend on these goals I set forth for anyone wishing to build these units will not receive any help or aid from me of any sort. If I tell people how to build it, it will be of my design and not from what they could come up with as a solution all their own. If anyone can't understand it all I can say is maybe this technology is not for you. I know that sounds mean and arrogant, but it is just the simple truth. Not everyone is cut out too be an engineer and/or master builder/designer, and I understand that.

In time some of these people and/or groups will put out their solutions, for the patent has expired. And I hope they would do so for the good of humanity. Learning to just take the savings this technology brings and pass on what you have learned to you fellow man hopefully will come with time. Trying to debate me for my reasoning in setting this up as an engineering project only leads to a dead end for I will not bend.

The math is set up as a worste case possibility and still it has more energy content than that of regular gasoline. Trust in science and math can be done by making all of the calculations for yourselves, for no one has to take my word for it, and I ask that no one does. Do the work for yourselves and you will see the math is good. The ability to ask the right questions is very much needed, but the ability to answer those questions is even more needed. This video tells how to go about this type of thinking: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/285.html

I hope this answers your question and I also hope you understand my point view of setting it up as an engineering project.

h2opower.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2009, 08:31:50 PM »
So you really have nothing but another theory like everyone else around here, that you want all of us to work on for you, is that the jist of it?
I don't mean this badly, your theory sounds intelligent and maybe it's the best way to go, all intelligent people don't always have the skills to build and construct some of these things. So using some peoples intelligence to come up with the idea and other people to do the construction work may be the way we need to go here, but this sounds just like a company with it's engineering dept. and manufacturing arm except it's all free.  Before I run off building things and spend a lot of money on stuff, I want to know the theory we are chasing is a valid one. And if you just need someone to build for you please be honest about it.
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2009, 10:01:39 PM »
Dear H2Opower ,

You are not in touch with reality , the gas processor was replaced , it is gone . And your theory is flawed , if it was easy as xtra enegy levels we would be there ... But how the hell are you gonna take it to those *energy levels* ... With the gas processor ... oooo its so simple , all you have to do is say it 10 times and a perfect gas processor will appear in front of you .

Seriously h2opower , get real





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Offline kippered

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2009, 10:27:25 PM »
Hardly a constructive approach Dankie. A better way might be to start another post to put forth your concepts like you have done in many posts and create a constructive thread using your methods.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2009, 10:33:47 PM »
Don't worry about Dankie he has had the 430 SS wire for well over a year now and no working WFC or VIC constructed. He is nothing more that talk, no math, no science, just all talk. I view him as an enemy of the water for fuel technology and everyone should do the same. Just look at all of his post on this site and you will see what I mean, again don't take my word for it, look into this guy for yourselves. :o

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2009, 10:41:09 PM »
A talker who makes things happen ...

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=132

Over a year ? lol I had the wire for under 3 months , plz refrain from making stuff up about me .

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1185&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0




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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2009, 11:12:19 PM »
A talker who makes things happen ...

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=132

Over a year ? lol I had the wire for under 3 months , plz refrain from making stuff up about me .

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1185&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0





Do you forget who you are talk to Dankie? You where trying to sell us some of your 430 SS wire close to a year ago on IonizationX, and even on this sight dated 11/04/08. Everyone take a look and see how full of BS this guy really is for yourselves: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3112-430-fr-inductance-wire.html like I said before look into him and see that all he does is insult everyone and spread confussion for youselves, don't take my word for it look into his past. For he can't hide his history, though I'd be willing to bet he will erase that site message.

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So ive seen Aaron talk about the resistance of the chokes , well the 11,600 ohms Meyers speaks of is just DC resistance ... impedance aside ..

Its true that to attain this resistance with copper you need about 45 times more.. or tiny very fragile wire..

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Ha! For less than three months go tell another one why don't you.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2009, 01:33:30 AM »
Come on now H2O dankie is everyones friend... i mean it was only about 6 months ago now that he was offering a free set of steak knives with orders over 5kg of his wire!!! lol dankie your love is coming back around... pictures of a plastic spool with grooves is not going to impress many people. H2O - I think what a lot of people are doing is they have a lot of ideas on how this works but no-one is building and prooving. there is also a lot of nay sayers that tell you they have done that and it doesn't work. they can't tell what happened or why it didn't work. Or even supply proof that they tried in most cases but they are more thna happy to tell you it doesn't work... or from some people the term "unacceptable" has been thrown around. Relax build it and let your results be your muscles... As for dankie lets face the more people that don't try to follow him the less people there are to buy his damn wire...

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