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Offline h20power

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Stanley Meyer Explained
« on: March 15, 2009, 11:34:59 PM »
Now I am going to set this up as an engineering project as a result I will not tell you how to build, construct, and/or design your projects if you so choose to make them. The idea is simple, to get as many different models as possible that all work. You will be shown where the power truly comes from and how everything works for the water fuel injector system, not the WFC in use with the gasous type injectors. Read them as a set of rules to follow, anyway you see fit on how to apply what you have read is up to you.

Again I stress that this is to be a engineering type project, the full build of the design shall come from the individual and/or teams that want to work together on it. And most important of all is to have fun ;D.

Enjoy: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-7.html#post47874

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained.html

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Stanley Meyer Explained
« on: March 15, 2009, 11:34:59 PM »

Offline ramset

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 12:34:26 AM »
H20power
Thank you so much for starting this thread, your insight is greatly appreciated

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 02:12:20 AM »
Glad to see you here, Iv been reading your stuff for quite awhile.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 09:42:08 AM »
Thanks, just doing what I can to spead the technology to as many as possible. I might have been away for a bit but I was very busy as everyone can see. Now everyone can see the math of Stanley Meyer's work for the first time, and it shows he did not break the laws of thermo dynamics in anyway, he just used the power of a lightining storm for the most part, and that needs no help from man.

I hope to see many working models from the information I provided and that the Energy Revolution begins to break the chains of energy enslavement that has gripped us all for far too long.

h2opower.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 01:47:18 PM »
h2opower,

from what i have read of your explanations of stan meyer suppied by  ramset on another thred, tell me if im correct, you are sayng that when you are capable of putting oxy in very high energy state that is all you need to seperate hydrogen and oxy(water) ? there is no need for water splitter injector? just the need for thermal heat spark?


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 01:47:18 PM »
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Offline alan

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 02:36:27 PM »
does the energy balance (including ionization energy) show an excess of released energy?

or can the ionization of oxygen be 'free' using the VIC method?
is the hydrogen atom really being consumed and gone, like meyer said?

thanks

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 12:16:31 AM »
h2opower,

from what i have read of your explanations of stan meyer suppied by  ramset on another thred, tell me if im correct, you are sayng that when you are capable of putting oxy in very high energy state that is all you need to seperate hydrogen and oxy(water) ? there is no need for water splitter injector? just the need for thermal heat spark?


outlawstc

In the patent it is stated that spark or heat ingition source will work, but the way the injectors work is by creating micro-mini capacitors that short out as the droplets evaporate, just as long as the relaxation time is greater that the evaporation time. From what I understand both are taking place at the same time some of the water injected will be turned into hydrogen and oxygen and the rest left over will ignite when that hydrogen mixture is set off by either spark or heat ignition in the presence of the unstable oxygen atoms. Hydrogen will flash at 500 degrees C and that will happen in a diesel engine. The unstable oxygen atoms will stabilize by taking the hydrogen atoms from the water molecule of any that did not break up into hydrogen and oxygen for it has well enough energy to do so.

As far as Ramset, I am have not seen his work, and I do belive I am the first to every talk about the Gas Processor and what it is doing. I know I am the first to ever show the math in comparision to the energy content of gasoline, besides Stanley Meyer(though he only stated the end results). I could care less of someones elses work for I have not read it, all I care about is starting the energy revolution, and I gave the technology away for everyone to have. That is the only way any of us will ever see this type of technology, for someone to lay down the bag of greed bricks and do the right thing.

Could you post a copy of his work, with the dates it was posted so I can read it? Thanks

h2opower.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 12:16:31 AM »
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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 12:28:14 AM »
does the energy balance (including ionization energy) show an excess of released energy?

or can the ionization of oxygen be 'free' using the VIC method?
is the hydrogen atom really being consumed and gone, like meyer said?

thanks


The hydrogen atom shouldn't be consumed for all that is being created is water vapor, it the lectures Stanley Meyer says the oxygen atom over compensates giving off the high energy yeilds beyond the normal hydrogen/oxygen reaction. The all copper VIC should be used on the Gas Processor, the SS wire VIC is for use of any gap 0.06-0.01 inches and that is only found in the Water Fuel Capacitor. Note there are two types of VIC transformers not just one. I posted a video of the Gas Processor in action on the other site from MIT.

Everyone should take the time to read the whole thread as there is a lot of information given in there, plus note I was learning more as I went along. Trust me I really wont re-write everything that I went over in the thread.

Best wishes,
h2opower.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 01:32:59 AM »
I believe the gas processor is vital to the injector, as per h20's explanation but I would also like to see it applied to the wfc as in a heater or torch.
Maybe separate the h an o at the cell run the O through the GP and recombine at the orifice, this would also make it less likely to flashback.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 01:52:38 AM »
I believe the gas processor is vital to the injector, as per h20's explanation but I would also like to see it applied to the wfc as in a heater or torch.
Maybe separate the h an o at the cell run the O through the GP and recombine at the orifice, this would also make it less likely to flashback.

Say your talking about the gas gun, and yes that would be very interesting to see for as you raise the voltage to the Gas Processor the flame should increase in thermo energy released. So everyone build the Gas Processor best you can, do your homework to make sure you understand what is it's purpose. For remember there are many ways to do this, all that work win the energy independence fight.

Time for real change,
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 04:20:48 AM »
@h20
This would also be a way to confirm your theory, build the gas gun lets blast our way into the future.
This should run a carbureted engine also. (generator)

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2009, 01:13:40 PM »
The hydrogen atom shouldn't be consumed for all that is being created is water vapor, it the lectures Stanley Meyer says the oxygen atom over compensates giving off the high energy yeilds beyond the normal hydrogen/oxygen reaction. The all copper VIC should be used on the Gas Processor, the SS wire VIC is for use of any gap 0.06-0.01 inches and that is only found in the Water Fuel Capacitor. Note there are two types of VIC transformers not just one. I posted a video of the Gas Processor in action on the other site from MIT.

Everyone should take the time to read the whole thread as there is a lot of information given in there, plus note I was learning more as I went along. Trust me I really wont re-write everything that I went over in the thread.

Best wishes,
h2opower.
damn, you're actually working on it, looking very good.
In the New Zealand house meeting video, meyer actually did say the atoms are consumed, if I remember correctly.

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2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 7469.2 kJ/mol (@ 4th + ionization level) are formed yeilding 8341.2 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is 8341.2-1836 = +6505.2 kJ/mol
Ok, let's assume enough energy is being released in the combustion engine, no doubt about that, it's enough to run a car; the net sum  energy released in the combustion process, isn't that quantity equal (or even less) to the energy it did cost to separate the water (1836kJ/mol ) AND ionize the oxygen to 4th level (more than 7469.2 kJ/mol)?

you said yourself:
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The ioniztion energies is a two way street, what goes up must come down, so it takes the same amount of energy to raise the energy levels as you get from the enregy levels on their way down.

so my point is, I can see that it is possible to run a car on water, but I cannot see OU? Is the air processor a free ionizer and OU in itself?

(save your time by answering this if you already did, don't want to annoy by asking to repeat stuff, but i couldn't find it myself)

this is the link to the MIT video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQvXrxrqshk


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2009, 04:43:06 PM »
the water injector is needed for a couple stages to happen the first stage is the polarization process. the tickling of the state space is what dislodges the waters (oxy) electrons to turn off the covalent bond.. the electrons that were tickled off the water managed to bond to the highly positve ionized gases. so now all the oxygens are short of i would say at least 4-6 electrons. oxygen then steals hydrogens single electrons giving you positive charged measly little proton as stan would put it. now hydrogen and oxygen  are (both missing electrons to be stable) .. the dynamic electrical stress and the compressional dynamic wave guide creates thermal spark ignition at the exiting point of the injector/splitter.. to say it can be done with just spark doesnt make sense to me.. i feel in order to seperate the water it has to be between to high potentials for the polarization process. opposite electrical stress..  the higher energy state of oxygen is just oxygen that has been stripped of some or all electrons. i suggest during experimenting that from the transfer point of the highly energized oxy that it be in well insulated piping.. i have a feeling that it will shock you if touched and be less effecient.. since most likely it will be sponging in electrons from ground loosing its high state before use.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2009, 06:33:16 PM »
damn, you're actually working on it, looking very good.
In the New Zealand house meeting video, meyer actually did say the atoms are consumed, if I remember correctly.
Ok, let's assume enough energy is being released in the combustion engine, no doubt about that, it's enough to run a car; the net sum  energy released in the combustion process, isn't that quantity equal (or even less) to the energy it did cost to separate the water (1836kJ/mol ) AND ionize the oxygen to 4th level (more than 7469.2 kJ/mol)?

you said yourself:
so my point is, I can see that it is possible to run a car on water, but I cannot see OU? Is the air processor a free ionizer and OU in itself?

(save your time by answering this if you already did, don't want to annoy by asking to repeat stuff, but i couldn't find it myself)

this is the link to the MIT video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQvXrxrqshk


Hi Alan,
Don't think in terms of OU for that is only a word ment to stop people from thinking. I can say this you are very perceptive for I to think that the water just might be being consumed but on a very small scale. I ran the numbers on the one gallon of water vs barrols of oil and I came up with 7.6 barrols of oil equal one gallon of water. So if you where able to fully return the water used to the system then you would get Stanley Meyer's numbers.

Yes I did put up an answer to that question, but I will add clarity to it. This is mother natures way to beat the system, for now we are talking eV and the reason it is so powerful is every atom is working in concert. In a capacitor all of the atoms on the surface are acting on the gasous atoms at 90 degree angles from the surface. In the corona discharge every atom is contributing the needed eV and it only takes 10.3eV to raise the energy level of oxygen to it's 8th level contrast to hydrogen needing 13.6eV. But I feel the gas processor will convert both oxygen and hydrogen, but the hydrogen can be lost and the net result of the reaction is small for hydrogen only put out 1312 kJ/mol. Here is something I just found on the net that explains it far better than I can: http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/6-1/K.pdf If you ask me you hit the nail right on the head ;). For this is how lightining storms work to produce awsome power levels. 1 eV/molecule =  96.485309 kJ/mol and if you use Avogadro's number = 6.0221415 × 1023 you can find out the energy levels, but as for me I will just trust that it is working. There is no magic here everything can be explained.

One thought I think is also very important is being able to ask the right questions and then answering those questions. Stanley Meyer talks about this in some of his lectures the talk of question asking ability. It is how I was able to solve what really was taking place with the water for fuel injector system, and now that I am skilled at the proir arts I can make changes to the system to suit my needs. It took me 31 months of foolin around to finally ask the right questions, and once I did the whole water for fuel technology just opened up to me.

That is why I say, "Energy independence is now ours for the taking."
h2opower
« Last Edit: March 17, 2009, 06:54:41 PM by h20power »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2009, 08:28:36 PM »
h2opower,
what do you think of this alternator sync pulse circuit i drew up.. notice the copper choke multi spool windings are connected to the air ionization and electron extraction... while the neg stainless choke is connected to the middle of alternators stator windings and water cap, the positive stainless is connected to the positive side of the alternators primarys induction and the water cap.. i think this will allow the dynamics electrical stress of opposite polarities and work like a microphone recieving feedback. the echoing effect being kept active due to rotational energy output of the alternator will put off emf.

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