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Title: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: argona369 on March 10, 2009, 07:40:44 AM

This seems to be in a theoretical state still , but interesting.

I don’t know how this would produce a monopole unless
Metamaterial interaction somehow creates it?

http://www.physorg.com/news153074178.html

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0811/0811.1303v1.pdf

this material?

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008APS..MARX37003T


Cliff.
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: jadaro2600 on March 10, 2009, 09:52:28 AM
This may seem irrelevant ...however,

Mad cow disease is a protein disorder whereby infected proteins cause non infected proteins to align ...even in the absence of the infected proteins, the affected proteins remain aligned and dysfunctional.

I'm wondering if the existence of a magnetic monopole might create a sort of mad cow-like phenomenon in physics where monopoles attach to atoms and cause them align oddly.

or is this all a bunch of press - electrons really being monopoles? :)
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: broli on March 10, 2009, 11:26:58 AM
I suggest you read a thread I made at EF.com. It uses simple concepts not math. Other people have also contributed with very valuable information.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3826-magnetic-monopole-arises-when-magnets-repell-each-other.html
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: jadaro2600 on March 10, 2009, 12:25:37 PM
@broli

I read you link and the material seems to indicate the idea of a monopole with existential properties of a dipole with one pole turned towards the inside and one pole on the outside.

The thing would be prone to explode.
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: argona369 on March 10, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
jadaro,I don’t think it would cascade ?

Broli , I see what your getting at, I’ve wondered that myself
As a magnet is a closed loop (but how big can it go?)
the problem is that even if there was a plain
In between the opposing poles the pattern is 360 degree’s.

Seems its spintronic?
And,,,
graphene is a topological insulator as well.
Very interesting.


“Recently: new class of time-reversal topological insulator
-2D systems: e.g. graphene quantum spin Hall insulator(HgCdTe quantum we
-3D crystals with strong spin orbit interaction: semiconducting alloy BiSb”

http://www2.hik.se/dokument/.%5Ckob%20personal%5Cmagnuspaulsson/magnetic_impurities.pdf

http://www.physics.upenn.edu/~kane/pubs/p59.pdf

it seems the predicted monopole also has a directionality
as opposed to an omni-directional pattern?

That would be exactly what we would be looking for.
A single pole with directionality.
Point it at a star, and go maybe.
And maybe gravity and energy?

interesting,
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: Koen1 on March 11, 2009, 05:44:54 PM
This is probably even more irrelevant... ;)

This may seem irrelevant ...however,

Mad cow disease is a protein disorder whereby infected proteins cause non infected proteins to align ...even in the absence of the infected proteins, the affected proteins remain aligned and dysfunctional.

As I understood it, the prions responsible for BSE "infect" other protein molecules by "bumping into them", which causes the affected protein molecule
to change shape and turn into a copy of the prion protein molecule that it came into contact with. After the "collision"/"interaction", there are two prions.
This is a cascade effect and that is why it causes Spongiform Encephalitis: the prions are not of a form that our human metabolism can break down,
so they never get filtered out of the bloodstream. In places where there's a lot of the "target" proteins, like the brain, the prions encounter lots of susceptible
protein molecules, and form a lot more prions, which becomes a fairly steady process of prion production. Since none get filtered out, more and
more of the prions are produced and start to "rain down" on the nerve cells untill they are completely smothered by a thick blanket of prions and basically
choke to death. They can no longer absorb enough nutrients through the thick prion blanket and die. The prions however remain and blanket the next
cell, and the next, and the next, untill sponge-like cavities remain in the brain tissue.
There is never an absence of "infected protein", they turn other proteins into prions.
According to the documentation I received on it and what I read in Cell Biology, at least.
;)

As for electrons really being monopoles, I don't know...
But Hand Coler did say something similar... He said they're South pole monopoles, if I recall correctly. :)

Regards,
Koen
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: SomedayIsle on March 11, 2009, 08:44:05 PM

Quote
They can no longer absorb enough nutrients through the thick prion blanket and die. The prions however remain and blanket the next
cell, and the next, and the next, untill sponge-like cavities remain in the brain tissue.
There is never an absence of "infected protein", they turn other proteins into prions.
According to the documentation I received on it and what I read in Cell Biology, at least
.


Indeed, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.


God bless
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: Koen1 on March 12, 2009, 04:19:29 PM
Well, too little knowledge is more dangerous than a little. ;)
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: broli on March 12, 2009, 04:34:47 PM
The problem with knowledge is that it's boundless. Sure 100 km might seem far but astrologically it's nothing. Knowledge can only be measured between peers.
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: Koen1 on March 12, 2009, 04:49:24 PM
Now that's a nice epistemological remark Broli :)

Let me just throw up a thought here,
sure, astrologically speaking 100 km is nothing...
... but then again we can traverse 100 km and we can't even put a man on Mars.
(sure we could, but for some reason we don't, just like we proved we
could put men on the moon but for some odd reason haven't been back there
for half a century.)

Nevertheless, there was something about monopoles, wasn't there?  :P ;)

Regards,
Koen
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: argona369 on March 12, 2009, 08:27:26 PM
There was.
And the proposed capacitor experiment seems interesting.
Though the monopole field was toroidal .
Bose-Einstein condensate of excitions at room temperature?

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0902/0902.1147v1.pdf

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0812/0812.1622v1.pdf

http://www.cmp.caltech.edu/~jpelab/Group%20Website/papers/nature432_691_2004.pdf

Cliff,
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: argona369 on March 26, 2009, 08:36:41 AM
Just some more links.

I wonder, as in the testatika big cans if this was applied as
a coating with a magnetic film over top. Would you have some sort of
entangled magnetic field between the cans.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5s6nZtPAHE

http://blog.revealedsingularity.net/post/2009/02/26/magnetic-monopoles

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0710/0710.0730v1.pdf

Cliff,
Title: Re: Magnetic monopole?
Post by: Koen1 on March 26, 2009, 11:45:19 AM
Hmm possible I suppose.

But I personally think that the Testatika uses, among other principles,
natural radioactive minerals in some of the "cans", a bit like Moray
used radioactive rocks in his "tube"s.
I also think the "wimshurst" part of it is not a simple "wimshurst" but
rather a combination of electrophorus and wimshurst, which could
well produce significantly higher static charge output. (polarised lucite
acts as the electrophorus' charge supply, motion produces movement
of these charges, which can easily be conducted through wires... and
the Testatika does use lucite/perspex "wimshurst" plates)
A form of electron valve is used to rectify the alternating output,
and I suspect the principle presented here http://www.rexresearch.com/yablotch/yablotch.htm
also plays a role in the Testatika.
The above principles could, if properly implemented and coupled, produce
quite a bit of output.
And then there's still more elements that I do not have such a clear
picture of, but that undoubtedly lso play their roles in the device.
The Lindemann experiment using a magnet and a stack of copper and
aluminium plates seperated by a dielectric, that feeds pulses to a coil
around the magnet and receives an alleged output of hV DC directly
from the stack of plates, that is a good example of an element I
don't really get (yet). It is used in every Testatika but nobody really
seems to know what it really does or how.

Anyways, sure, I suppose a magnetic coating is possible.
But in my mind, the "cans" are basically electrostatic collectors
which are perforated to produce a larger surface area for interaction
with the ionised air in and around them.

I suppose the Testatika will remain a mysterious device untill someone
manages to replicate it independantly, or untill Methernita reveals
the secret. And I would not hold my breath waiting for the latter. ;)

Regards,
Koen