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Author Topic: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)  (Read 71653 times)

MrMag

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To everyone

A real working circuit is just a matter of efficiency.

making a ringing effect inside the two caps prohibiting a discharging action from the source, and as it is ringing then a magnification is being done at the other coil.  ;)

Yeah right. ::)

forest

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Yeah right. ::)

C'mon. Tito cannot be more clear ! He is really trying to tell us, please be open minded.This is capacitive method of eliminating Lenz rule.
Tito, can you explain what is that BEMF, how is related to Lenz rule ? I know about Newton third law but still my mind is not working clearly enough to understand what is the nature of this effect.
I will explain what I know because time is short : when we have capacitor and coil in resonant circut there is one resonant frequency and many harmonics. If we put a bit energy inside it will vibrate while converting between magnetic and electric side : when it is charging capacitor it always flip-flop electric dipole in capacitor. You see now where is the problem ... capacitor is connected to the power source and working against it (sometimes). Clever man would try powering it from magnetic field but again there is a change ( I think) in magnetic dipole which acts against the initial magnetic power source.

Now look what Tesla done and think...efficient use of power source by capacitive method of eliminating lenz rule. Tesla named it "charges funnel"

You really don't know how hard is to feel that but have no ability to construct a working device  :'( I'm trying and trying and trying and what can ordinary poor man do from a piece of wood and a bunch of wires ? Everything ... if he has a plan of already working simple device..and nothing - if he is trying to build one in experimental stage  >:( where everything should be precisely measured and constructed for resonance, for example switching device.

MrMag

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Forest,

Like this?   http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph14e/osccirc.htm


And Tito, don't try to put it on me. YOU are the one who said he was going to share his discovery and then it was YOU who decided not to share it. That was BEFORE anyone started to make you sad.

forest

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No MrMag. Like in attached picture...

SchubertReijiMaigo

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Forest
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The secret is one : why it is so hard to build a working device when I have plenty of ideas ?  ;D
See... - I can see it working in my mind but cannot make one...  how to break that barrier ?

In my case this more a lack of money than a lack of idea or experiment, for example The Tesla/Gabriel device have a nanoperm toroid (I wonder if this necessary for operating since this is more like a magnetic diode than the Heins effect permeability gradient...) This nanoperm cost me over 100 Euros, and I have the odered on Ebay the shield about 39 Dollars and 34 dollars for shipping, for the wire I use "housing" wire (the wire we use in our house) that my father have in his garage... You understand now what we have a lack of research, replication, etc ?

If you don't have the money you can't conduct the experiment, if you can't make experiment, you can't analyse or correct your theories, if you can't correct your theories, your theories is just BS speculation, and if your theories is BS speculation you can't conduct the right experiments... ;D

This the true problem again: money, and since we are trying to break some 200 years old "conservation laws", no body will support you in your research, the last solution is to put your hard earning money...
This a one man against an entire army with a wood sword...   :o
So end of story, unfortunately...

core

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Note: You need to 'Roll your own' driver circuit.

Respectfully,

Core

Tito L. Oracion

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And Tito, don't try to put it on me. YOU are the one who said he was going to share his discovery and then it was YOU who decided not to share it. That was BEFORE anyone started to make you sad.

oh ya i remember that time, but you don't know what is happening in my life then and you are one added bad taste in a soup and that's the reason why i back out from my first plan.  ;D

anyway that's not important to me anymore and i learned thats why i'm now sooooo very careful.  ;D

somebody got somebody not that's the way it is now
somebody give thanks somebody curse. thanks for those who appreciates.  ;)

MrMag

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oh ya i remember that time, but you don't know what is happening in my life then and you are one added bad taste in a soup and that's the reason why i back out from my first plan.  ;D

anyway that's not important to me anymore and i learned thats why i'm now sooooo very careful.  ;D

somebody got somebody not that's the way it is now
somebody give thanks somebody curse. thanks for those who appreciates.

Sorry you had something going on in your life, so do I and a lot of others. I was hoping that you would change your mind and share. But since you don't want to, fine. That's in the past so let's drop it and move on. There are some interesting posts here now and I would like to see what becomes of it.

MrMag

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Forest and Core,

Where did you find these schematics or did you do them and what are they suppose to do. I know the second one is Teslas hairpin on Forest post but the first one is unfamiliar.

Tito L. Oracion

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C'mon. Tito cannot be more clear ! He is really trying to tell us, please be open minded.This is capacitive method of eliminating Lenz rule.
Tito, can you explain what is that BEMF, how is related to Lenz rule ? I know about Newton third law but still my mind is not working clearly enough to understand what is the nature of this effect.
I will explain what I know because time is short : when we have capacitor and coil in resonant circut there is one resonant frequency and many harmonics. If we put a bit energy inside it will vibrate while converting between magnetic and electric side : when it is charging capacitor it always flip-flop electric dipole in capacitor. You see now where is the problem ... capacitor is connected to the power source and working against it (sometimes). Clever man would try powering it from magnetic field but again there is a change ( I think) in magnetic dipole which acts against the initial magnetic power source.

Now look what Tesla done and think...efficient use of power source by capacitive method of eliminating lenz rule. Tesla named it "charges funnel"

You really don't know how hard is to feel that but have no ability to construct a working device  :'( I'm trying and trying and trying and what can ordinary poor man do from a piece of wood and a bunch of wires ? Everything ... if he has a plan of already working simple device..and nothing - if he is trying to build one in experimental stage  >:( where everything should be precisely measured and constructed for resonance, for example switching device.

We cannot remove the reality that there is and there is still a leak isn't it? Now, what we want is to eliminate the direct flowing but the whole energy effect is being use by us, its like bearden.
another thing, it should always be running in one way, that means no left and right turn and U-TURN  ;D

for this project we only need 3 caps 2 diodes and a lot of coils. but we can also do this using 2 caps and one diode. 8) 

Magluvin

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Hmmm  lots of coils

I wonder,  if you have 2 coils, say 2mh each, if we put them in parallel, would the inductance change?

Im just guessing here, as I have not really seen many or any examples of parallel inductors.

Why would the inductance change if they were in parallel.

In series I can see a change, but parallel, im not sure.

Mags

Magluvin

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The only reason I say this is because of Titos ingredients.

2 caps 1 diode lots of coils.

2 caps for a lot of coils?  I can only figure parallel.

Otherwise, many bifi coils so they are resonant to the driver, made of 2 caps, 1 diode, and "n" coils.

Titio the puzzle maker.  ;]

Mags

Magluvin

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2 caps 1 diode lots of coils?

no switches?
no battery?
no transistors?
No antenna?

Hmmm,  the puzzle that has no picture.  ;]

Mags

forest

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I posted picture.It's Tesla Harpin circuit. Read text below picture.
I have two questions :

1. Is there a way to use electrolyic caps in harpin circuit ? If so then how connect them ? That would allow to test very small  circuit with small voltages like 12V even ! Tesla said it is possible but capacitor need to be huge (in capacity) and expensive. Now we have electrolytic caps which are quite cheap.

2. Can somebody post a circuit which allow charge harpin capacitors to 800V (+400V and -400V) efficently (meaning many times per second) ? I've build  for my circuit (described in amplification thread) a string of 1uF 400V caps and edn with 3uF 800V cap in harpin embodiment. Second problem will be to find electronic way to discharge this cap.

Magluvin

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hey Forest

maybe the huge caps tesla was talking about back then, these days are not so large..   ;]

Mags