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Author Topic: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)  (Read 47041 times)

Offline MrMag

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and that is the magic short secret  ;D but main components are already there, and once you discover it then it can change the world the way it use electricity!  8)

now you are now allowed to become mad at me cause i can't tell.  ;D

Never  ;D ;D

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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Hey Tito

Any chance we could get a no. of turns for that capacitor?  ;]

Also, do we need a core?

I know these are too much to ask, but its a lot of work and a lot of wire if done wrong.  And if done wrong, it can be discouraging.  Can you get my drift?  ;]

We still have a lot to figure out beyond the coil. :-*

Thanks for the info 

Mags

i just made a simple estimation, first make a, let say, a couple of turns then check the capacitance then that's it continue up to.... . by the way i'm using digital capacitance meter.

yes with core.

? is it easy to walk if you have 4 feet?  ;D


Offline Magluvin

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i just made a simple estimation, first make a, let say, a couple of turns then check the capacitance then that's it continue up to.... . by the way i'm using digital capacitance meter.

yes with core.

? is it easy to walk if you have 4 feet?  ;D

4 feet?  hmm, this could mean a few things....

Single layer 4 feet long?   Or is it diameter?  emm, probably  a big core if its diameter. So nay to that.  :-*

Or is it with four feet, we can say put one foot in front of the other?  ;)

So I will say 4fi for the fee fi fo fum.  ;]

By the way, thats a nifty and simple way to work out the capacitance without getting dirty.  I like. Never thunk it. ;]

Thanks tweetles.

Ive been workin a big side job on a motor home. So wont get to do anything till the weekend.

One more ting.  Yes ting. ;]   

If I have a roll of 26 awg, of which I do ;] , would you say 2500ft is enough to git r dun!   ;]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtAUsVXB9OU

Mag n net



Offline forest

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a bug with 4 feet ?  ;D 4 coils or coil with 4  ?


Offline Magluvin

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a bug with 4 feet ?  ;D 4 coils or coil with 4  ?

Well, your question is proper here.  4 feet could just mean 4 leads coming off of the coil, and not necessarily 4fi.

Well, I have some empty wire spools that measure...

3 in. length
3.4 in dia

The core is .9in. outer (plastic tube) dia.

I measured the wire, 26awg, and calculated that I can get near 4700 turns, single strand if done nice and neat and full to the rim.   

I find that these plastic(1/16 in walls) tend to bend outwards as the no. of turns gets thick. So keeping it neat is tough with these spools unless support is added.

I figure that all of any turns are less than a foot, so I have enough wire for something bigger.

Will try some stuff this weekend...  Hopefuly im not wasting my time. ;]

Mags


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Offline forest

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I ask myself how to avoid using diodes. If output is radiant energy could I just use ordinary diode bridge rated 1000V ? I think output will be like car ignition coil , mostly positive but with a nasty negative lowervoltage spike before . I wish it could be possible to shape coils in such way that output will be only positive thus eliminating diodes.

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...If output is radiant energy could I just use ordinary diode bridge...

You ask good questions across the threads,
but I am forced to bare myself on this one.

No one, not anyone, knows exactly what "Radiant" is.

If they claim so they are idiots, probably.

We know of it currently,
we can prove it exists,
we can use it (SSG, Etc.).

The science community,
and society as a whole
would be farther ahead,
if existance were acknowledged !

To be clear, I am not a Bedini-ite per say,
but he made his own junctions continuously.

And enough unconventional magnetic relationship experiments
to assure us he "Bumped" into and answer on the issue.

If I had to bet on anyone having this answer
it would be John (NOT the "other" guy...)

I've only seen a few raw physics posts admitting rectification,
and even fewer releases by John (Bedini) and Eric (Dollard)
concerning sucessfully rectified radiant energy.

But the neon bulb lighting off of the plastic casing of a battery
in John's vids should indicate a need for unconventional parts.

Fast-recovery diodes to detect availability might be a start,
but an over-the-counter part to "rectify" radiant is unlikely...

Again, I hate to sound like a fatalist,
but would USA allow that part to be made ???

I mean for public purchase,
not military-only release .

we need to learn to use actual matter to sort this out,
by that I mean disimillar materials that DO sort it out.

we see "Rectifiers" as silicon junctions,
I seriously doubt that is the correct solution.

Dissimillar conductive METAL matter cohesed is more likely
to be the answer to rectifying what we know-not a-lot about.

Pulses from collapsing coils do contain reverse EMF,
or as more commonly cited CEMF (Counter...),
but they ALSO contain additional energy too.

Show me a link to a component that claims to rectify
"Radiant Energy" forum disputers intending to say this is crap...

It is there,
we know it is,
we try to use it,
some succeed at it.

Forest wants to recify that,
nothing wrong with that !

Ever search for:
"Radiant Rectifier"
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Radiant+Rectifier%22&hl=en&newwindow=1&num=100&lr=lang_en&ft=i&cr=&safe=off
Two bull-crap results makes my point
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 11:48:13 AM by CompuTutor »

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Offline CompuTutor

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I kept this seperate,
wind TWO SEPERATE windings on the outside of an insulator tube,
with a conductive collector tubing inside of the insulator tube.

Then connect the windings in series to obtain a sustained potential
between the windings to obtain the capacitor characteristics needed.

This obviously is an AC-Oriented occurance involving extraneous BEMF conditions.

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CompuTutor

I need it to rectify to store in electrlytic capacitor.  ;D No problem I will try what ever I find... but that is the tough problem for me...still in starting level planning circuit ...

Offline forest

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I kept this seperate,
wind TWO SEPERATE windings on the outside of an insulator tube,
with a conductive collector tubing inside of the insulator tube.

Then connect the windings in series to obtain a sustained potential
between the windings to obtain the capacitor characteristics needed.

This obviously is an AC-Oriented occurance involving extraneous BEMF conditions.


What did you described ? Capacitor or a coil generating only one polarity BEMF spikes ?


Btw : IMHO radiant energy,magnetic current,cold electricity,static charge,BEMF spike it's all the same , differs only in frequency of oscillation - longitudinal wave in ether aka electric field (pure) aka changing magnetic sound-like wave. The problem is exactly this = too many definitions  for the same physical effect.


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Re: workingTPU
« Reply #85 on: August 14, 2011, 07:03:15 PM »
Hi . The most simplest Device came from Edward Leedskalnin . you can make this one with a Ubolt ,some wire and a battery . I find this topic of working circuits and thought it should be posted here . This is no more than a demonstration of perpetual energy that you can make therefor Flawed first and second law of thermodynamics states that perpetual motion machines of the first and second kind are   impossible. ;D Work is unseen electron Spin after power is removed.It dosn't dissapate over time ..Sometimes you can't see the snake that bit you becuase your standing on him and you can't see the tree because of the forest or you can't find your glasses because there on top of yur head;)
. It is made by wrapping wire abound the two legs of a u bolt . two coils  - and have a flat bar to place across the ends of the U bolt form a perpetual magnet and in effect accedendentally build a Torriodal Power Unit !All you do is energize it for a second and it will remain an electromagnet indefinitely until you break the flat bar from it's hold,breaking the Flow of the Electron Spin. Also you can put a ampmter in series with the coils in a closed configuration(a couple of diodes) after the dc power source is removed and show perpetual DC current flowing in a closed loop . Simplest demonstration of a TPU in operation . In a replication the user energized the coils with 10 amps and  6 amps remained in the coils after is off indicating a closed loop plus the magnetic  flow was also in a closed loop .for circuits and more elaborate designs see http://www.leedskalnin.com/. Also a borrowed v ideo from Lightsaber shown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ssUTRbRRs
and rwg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alnqltMb-pM&feature=related

Gadget
« Last Edit: August 14, 2011, 08:58:36 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: workingTPU
« Reply #86 on: August 16, 2011, 04:45:03 AM »
Hi . The most simplest Device came from Edward Leedskalnin . you can make this one with a Ubolt ,some wire and a battery . I find this topic of working circuits and thought it should be posted here . This is no more than a demonstration of perpetual energy that you can make therefor Flawed first and second law of thermodynamics states that perpetual motion machines of the first and second kind are   impossible. ;D Work is unseen electron Spin after power is removed.It dosn't dissapate over time ..Sometimes you can't see the snake that bit you becuase your standing on him and you can't see the tree because of the forest or you can't find your glasses because there on top of yur head;)
. It is made by wrapping wire abound the two legs of a u bolt . two coils  - and have a flat bar to place across the ends of the U bolt form a perpetual magnet and in effect accedendentally build a Torriodal Power Unit !All you do is energize it for a second and it will remain an electromagnet indefinitely until you break the flat bar from it's hold,breaking the Flow of the Electron Spin. Also you can put a ampmter in series with the coils in a closed configuration(a couple of diodes) after the dc power source is removed and show perpetual DC current flowing in a closed loop . Simplest demonstration of a TPU in operation . In a replication the user energized the coils with 10 amps and  6 amps remained in the coils after is off indicating a closed loop plus the magnetic  flow was also in a closed loop .for circuits and more elaborate designs see http://www.leedskalnin.com/. Also a borrowed v ideo from Lightsaber shown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ssUTRbRRs
and rwg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alnqltMb-pM&feature=related

Gadget

i think we can combine the  captret of ibpointless here,  ;)


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Re: workingTPU
« Reply #87 on: August 17, 2011, 05:14:17 AM »
...the ends of the U bolt form a perpetual magnet and in effect accedendentally (accidental)
(form a) build (of) a Torriodal Power Unit !
All you do is energize it for a second and it will remain an electromagnet indefinitely
until you break the flat bar from it's hold, breaking the Flow of the Electron Spin...
Gadget

Study the rodin math system, wind one with silver plated iron, start the process, smile...

Hint: stay away from copper coated/cored/plated anything, always.

Silver can be plated directly to iron without interstitial metals.
http://books.google.com/books/download/A_complete_treatise_on_the_electro_depos.pdf?id=SI85AQAAIAAJ&hl=en&capid=AFLRE70SgK3RY4_KNFhSKEZvKqNXvCqs-NVh__N7QXqwvDab5RyK8MrStXqbjEQZgUkmV3iyEV080nFFHd3MB7Q6IyPmqxgN4w&continue=http://books.google.com/books/download/A_complete_treatise_on_the_electro_depos.pdf%3Fid%3DSI85AQAAIAAJ%26output%3Dpdf%26hl%3Den
A complete treatise on the electro-deposition of metals

The "Electron" people will now get all up in arms about this,
saying that the silver will short all the windings from electon flow...

EXACTLY (lol)!

What you want IS magnetic flow only.

If your winding simple form,
wind left to right one layer,
STOP and return to the left,
continue next layer left to right,
rinse and repeat...

Never wind like your going to use current...

Make sure all windings are from left to right,
with a right angle return to the left for these.

There is a much better variant,
the Tesla pancake coil of course.

Wind each layer bifilar (two wire),
erect a vertical buss for the starts/ends of all layers desired,
wire them to keep a sustained potential across bifilar pair like usual,
but only add additional pancakes to the existing busses to maintain this,
the above standard "Selonoid" winding does not apply here.

That winding method is only for launching
things exceptionally high from a cap only...

can you say "Edwin V. Gray", heheh ?



NO gradual windings back to the left.

I cannot say this enough to lazy winders !

Some will make the wire for you.
http://www.calfinewire.com/

Ever wonder why iron wire doesn't need to be insulated
while transering magnetic current in windings without shorting ?

CAUSE IT CAN...but removing all and any electron action is tops.

This is the section of things that just work,
these work, doesn't matter if we know why.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2011, 06:12:58 AM by CompuTutor »

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Silver coated iron wire pancake bifi coils in a stack ?

Interesting, , can we get some details on how to wire them ? Series or parallel ? Where will the cap be added ?

Possibly a rough thumnail schema will help.

Best,


 

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