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Author Topic: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION  (Read 1792929 times)

Offline webby1

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7995 on: February 16, 2017, 03:58:18 PM »
If I have a coil that has current flowing through it and I short the coil,, what is the delay in the collapse of the magnetic field?

This is just kind of a sidetrack,, but if I needed a phase shift I could short the coil and create that shift, or I could use different cores,, or feed two inputs that are not in phase,, or ??

If I find an answer that I am comfortable with and then stop looking I might miss something else that could be important,, maybe there is nothing else but I will never know if I stop at the first accepted answer.

This is an overly broad statement,,,
I would tend to think that every person who finds that the interrupter is an arc switch will see the same thing as each other, and in this case that will be a standard oscillator.
but for the most part I find it to be true.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7996 on: February 17, 2017, 03:51:10 AM »
I'm by no means saying "we have to use a spark gap"
I was merely pointing out that Tesla explicitly used them.


Today we have advanced semiconductor technology
We can switch almost as fast and with more consistency


Resonance does not care where the impedance, capacitance,
and inductance comes from.
Like comparing all the different musical instruments in the world
With a single common factor.


I would place teslas circuits in the same group as all of those instruments.
He intentionally caused constructive interference.


Where as every circuit we build today is designed with the intention
of NOT causing it. Or worse, causing Destructive interference.


Think about the bridge that a slight breeze over a long time
Can rip into pieces

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Offline webby1

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7997 on: February 17, 2017, 05:43:41 PM »
Just an oddball observation from years ago,,,

You ever notice that if you choose the right condenser for an engine and its ignition coil you could get up to like 12,000 miles of service but with a slightly off condenser you could end up with large pits and peaks after just a 1000 miles of service?

You ever look at the brush\commutator interaction on an electric motor?  If you could eliminate all that arcing and stuff I bet those brushes would last a lot longer.

Offline citfta

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« Reply #7998 on: February 17, 2017, 05:55:31 PM »
Webby,

A well designed and operating properly DC motor does NOT have a lot of arcing and sparking at the brushes.  And the brushes most of the time last for years in an industrial environment where these motors run sometimes every day all day long.

Arcing and sparking at the brushes indicate the motor armature has a problem or the motor does not have the brushes set up properly in the neutral zone like they are supposed to be.  Now of course with the little common universal vacuum cleaner or drill motor it just isn't cost effective to spend time and money adjusting them for best performance even if they did have that capability which most of them don't.

Did you ever figure out why the capacitor and transformer could not send a spike to the motor on the Tesla patent?

Carroll


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« Reply #7999 on: February 17, 2017, 07:13:37 PM »
The high performance motors I have played with had very little to no arcing and stuff,, they also cost a lot more.

Funny about the spike thing,, in my testbed I tried I could get one,, when I say high voltage spike I do not mean high voltage as in KV's from 10V but something higher than 10V and only for a short shot,, a spike.

I would appreciate a simplified walk through of what your take is,, you do have a lot more knowledge in this area than I do.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #7999 on: February 17, 2017, 07:13:37 PM »
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« Reply #8000 on: February 17, 2017, 10:20:18 PM »
If the cap is charged and the interrupter is closed then the cap\coil are in a parallel connection and so the cap will discharge through the coil.

When the coil has current flowing through it the secondary will have an induction event as well but the current from that event will depend upon the resistance of the Ozone plates,, high resistance equals low current which equals little if any current countered in the primary.

With current flow through the coil when the interrupter opens it opens the parallel circuit into a high impedance motor that is running.  The high impedance will stop current flow within the coil\cap exchange thus collapsing the flux rapidly.

So,, for that spike to hit the motor it would need to complete the circuit through the supply because the other side of the supply is connected to the other side of the motor.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8001 on: February 17, 2017, 11:34:46 PM »
Webby,

Which part of the circuit has the most inductance?

Carroll

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« Reply #8001 on: February 17, 2017, 11:34:46 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8002 on: February 18, 2017, 01:45:38 AM »
The motor I assume.

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« Reply #8003 on: February 18, 2017, 02:16:36 AM »
Yes.  So which is going to produce the greater kickback or spike?

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8004 on: February 18, 2017, 11:08:40 AM »

"This generator I connect up with a condenser or conductor
of some capacity and discharge the accumulated electrical energy
disruptively through an air-space....
"


Any questions?


How do you think He accumulated electrical energy? ;) ::) 8)


I am challenging everyone to participate to answer this question to help everyone.
Cause i believe that this is the missing link about the truth.  :)
included schematic would be more appreciated. ;)

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Offline Erfinder

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8005 on: February 18, 2017, 01:13:33 PM »

How do you think He accumulated electrical energy? ;) ::) 8)


I am challenging everyone to participate to answer this question to help everyone.
Cause i believe that this is the missing link about the truth.  :)
included schematic would be more appreciated. ;)


Are you among those who will continue to take Tito serious after this post? 


Why is he asking you to answer a question that was clearly answered in the quote!!!!  (Not a question...) 


Quote:


"This generator I connect up with a condenser or conductor of some capacity and discharge the accumulated electrical energy disruptively through an air-space...."
End quote.


So many listening to this guy.....incredible....

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8006 on: February 18, 2017, 01:23:35 PM »
Yes.  So which is going to produce the greater kickback or spike?

The one that sees the fastest rate of change,, the coil.


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8007 on: February 18, 2017, 02:02:09 PM »

How do you think He accumulated electrical energy? ;) ::) 8)


I am challenging everyone to participate to answer this question to help everyone.
Cause i believe that this is the missing link about the truth.  :)
included schematic would be more appreciated. ;)

I see no missing link in the statement you quoted.  It is a very clear statement.  Maybe you should go back to the basics and start over.  You have obviously missed something about how the basic components of electricity work.  Or is your problem a language problem?  Don't you know that condenser is another word for capacitor?

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« Reply #8008 on: February 18, 2017, 04:16:07 PM »
Yes.  So which is going to produce the greater kickback or spike?

I think I see the difference between us.

I think you are destroying the magnetic capacitance of the coil where as I am seeing the discharge of that capacitance as turning the coil into a momentary source of voltage that is connected in series with the supply voltage.

The magnetic capacitance of the coil is a relationship between the physical properties of the coil and the quantity of current flowing through it.

The high inductance motor will respond with a change in voltage with a corresponding change in RPM but will limit the current flow as such to try and keep it constant.


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8009 on: February 18, 2017, 06:22:20 PM »

Are you among those who will continue to take Tito serious after this post? 


Why is he asking you to answer a question that was clearly answered in the quote!!!!  (Not a question...) 


Quote:


"This generator I connect up with a condenser or conductor of some capacity and discharge the accumulated electrical energy disruptively through an air-space...."
End quote.


So many listening to this guy.....incredible....

Ok, so the cap can be either a condenser(cap) 'OR' bifi coil. If either can be used, why is it important to note this?


Mags

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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