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Author Topic: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION  (Read 1791822 times)

Offline handrajaya@gmail.com

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8115 on: March 31, 2017, 09:12:14 AM »
Dear tim energy,

Sorry I don't get your clue :-(
Maybe need several years to get it like Tito's :-)

Regards

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8115 on: March 31, 2017, 09:12:14 AM »

Offline Grumage

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8116 on: April 12, 2017, 02:30:40 PM »
Dear Erfinder.

Whilst busy with other projects your reference to Tesla's " Ozone patent " has been coming and going through my mind.

I remembered the other day of a SS circuit I had tinkered with, rather badly.....

Would the attached circuit diagram be a close cousin ?

Kind regards, Graham.

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Offline Cadman

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8117 on: April 12, 2017, 07:11:31 PM »
Erfinder,

My attempt to describe the operational sequence of the ozone generator.

DC source, positive A, negative B. Switch H is closed.

At startup, positive A charges a high self-inductance, F+D, through switch H, also equalizing the charge on cap L through primary M at the same time. While switch H is closed the motor is receiving a current from AB and rotates.

Motor rotates x degrees and switch H opens.
The motor is disconnected from source at A, not B.
Inductance F+D sends a high voltage discharge through primary M into cap L.
At this instant is the discharge oscillatory between F+D and cap L?
A emf output is produced at secondary N.
Current also continues onward to source B from F+D during the discharge.

Motor rotates x degrees by momentum and switch H closes.
The motor reconnects to current source A and F+D recharge.
The cap L is shorted through switch H and primary M and a high frequency oscillatory discharge occurs between L & M.
For each oscillation a higher voltage emf is produced at secondary N. That emf is high frequency AC and is the beginning of the working circuit.

My thoughts:

The high frequency emf from N charges a larger cap in the working circuit that can be discharged into a step-down transformer to produce a lower frequency higher current emf for use.

The relationship of inductance, capacity, and resistance sets the frequency of L & M and also the frequency of the working circuit.

It looks as if the HV oscillating discharge between L & M would also charge the source through A.

It seems to be a very efficient set up. The pulse motor does work on it's own and the inductive discharge from the field coils that is normally wasted can be used to produce a high voltage with high current.

Sounds simple enough. What am I missing? Am I way off base here?

Regards

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8118 on: April 13, 2017, 07:02:16 PM »
Dear Erfinder.

Whilst busy with other projects your reference to Tesla's " Ozone patent " has been coming and going through my mind.

I remembered the other day of a SS circuit I had tinkered with, rather badly.....

Would the attached circuit diagram be a close cousin ?

Kind regards, Graham.


I wouldn't  be playing by those unwritten rules if I said they weren't....  Here's the thing though, everyone keeps saying what's expected (parroting) of them with regards to this circuit.  Add to this, those whom you all deem as authorities say there's nothing more here, period...  At this point most (all) stop thinking for themselves because the authorities have spoken the final word on the subject they may know, however, cannot and will not expand on.  That being said, if you can't see more than the obvious, walk away from it.


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8119 on: April 13, 2017, 07:05:22 PM »
Erfinder,

My attempt to describe the operational sequence of the ozone generator.

DC source, positive A, negative B. Switch H is closed.

At startup, positive A charges a high self-inductance, F+D, through switch H, also equalizing the charge on cap L through primary M at the same time. While switch H is closed the motor is receiving a current from AB and rotates.

Motor rotates x degrees and switch H opens.
The motor is disconnected from source at A, not B.
Inductance F+D sends a high voltage discharge through primary M into cap L.
At this instant is the discharge oscillatory between F+D and cap L?
A emf output is produced at secondary N.
Current also continues onward to source B from F+D during the discharge.

Motor rotates x degrees by momentum and switch H closes.
The motor reconnects to current source A and F+D recharge.
The cap L is shorted through switch H and primary M and a high frequency oscillatory discharge occurs between L & M.
For each oscillation a higher voltage emf is produced at secondary N. That emf is high frequency AC and is the beginning of the working circuit.

My thoughts:

The high frequency emf from N charges a larger cap in the working circuit that can be discharged into a step-down transformer to produce a lower frequency higher current emf for use.

The relationship of inductance, capacity, and resistance sets the frequency of L & M and also the frequency of the working circuit.

It looks as if the HV oscillating discharge between L & M would also charge the source through A.

It seems to be a very efficient set up. The pulse motor does work on it's own and the inductive discharge from the field coils that is normally wasted can be used to produce a high voltage with high current.

Sounds simple enough. What am I missing? Am I way off base here?

Regards


What if there is more to it than the obvious?  Imagine that.....what lessons are being taught aside from the ones which have received the approval of the resident competent authorities?  Go where they won't!


Regards

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8119 on: April 13, 2017, 07:05:22 PM »
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Offline Cadman

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8120 on: April 13, 2017, 08:15:17 PM »
Erfinder, thanks for responding. I do hope there is more to it than the obvious.

Well if I have the basic idea worked out then I think this would make a good first Tesla experiment.

The standard explanation of resonant rise, as I understand it, is 'incrementally storing more and more energy from the power supply' but that does not take into consideration contributions from other things like the inductive discharge or the secondary of the oscillation transformer and the cap connected to it for example. At least that is my thinking at the moment. If I build this properly I'll bet I see a few surprises and learn some things.

I think I can rig up a rotary switch, high inductance, and transformers fairly easily, caps will have to be ordered though. Probably use a 12VDC battery for the supply, maybe at a half amp.

Do you have a suggestion as to the oscillation frequency to shoot for in the L M circuit, or should I just try to follow Tesla's lead?

Regards

 

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