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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #60 on: September 17, 2009, 11:29:31 AM »
Hello all,

@Tito

negative RESISTANCE is needed in our coils and devices, not negative energy.

Anyway. what means negative resistance?

A lot of people "knows" everything about that but.....is it so??

Otto

oh ya i think that is what i accidentally discovered, we're talking of different thing ok.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #61 on: September 17, 2009, 06:18:27 PM »
Tito are you willing to give up your secrets yet?   ;D

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2009, 12:11:25 AM »
I don't know if this is related but definitely one way of amplifying energy is described clearly by Tesla in his interview by counsel, which is deciphered here :

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4596-trying-decode-teslas-converters-2.html

This is of course only theory and missing many parts, but in fact it's like TV station : no matter how much TV sets are operational in the same moment it does draw the same energy from transmitter to transmit signal. Am I right ?

Help me understand it fully please and I will help you with what I learned.
Assume you have two RLC circuits both with antenna , which is transmitter and which receiver ? How to distinguish them ? How to make unidirectional energy flow ? How to not disturb resonance of receiver while dissipating part of energy from it ? There is a problem also that every load I know are dynamic - they change parameters in time,temperature and depending on many factors. How to find a method to "hold resonance in place" in receiver ?

Why there are so many secrets ? It is simple like one satellite signal and 1 million TV receivers . Am I right ?

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2009, 07:13:29 AM »
I don't know if this is related but definitely one way of amplifying energy is described clearly by Tesla in his interview by counsel, which is deciphered here :

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4596-trying-decode-teslas-converters-2.html

This is of course only theory and missing many parts, but in fact it's like TV station : no matter how much TV sets are operational in the same moment it does draw the same energy from transmitter to transmit signal. Am I right ?

Help me understand it fully please and I will help you with what I learned.
Assume you have two RLC circuits both with antenna , which is transmitter and which receiver ? How to distinguish them ? How to make unidirectional energy flow ? How to not disturb resonance of receiver while dissipating part of energy from it ? There is a problem also that every load I know are dynamic - they change parameters in time,temperature and depending on many factors. How to find a method to "hold resonance in place" in receiver ?

Why there are so many secrets ? It is simple like one satellite signal and 1 million TV receivers . Am I right ?

yes i have also a complete copy of this tesla's interview, this interview is exactly where i am focusing my experiment, great find. you're already there.


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2009, 07:15:53 AM »
Tito are you willing to give up your secrets yet?   ;D

i'm already giving many of the secrets, circuit efficiency and some arrangement is the one that is only missing.


i believe you have it already.   ;D

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2009, 08:19:01 AM »
I will try to put it as theoretical elaboration done by Tesla in parts.

Part I

Energy impulse.

"(...) The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one
could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in
the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million
horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.
You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt,
an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at
the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.
I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200
horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge
the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful
instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the
energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.
A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower,
put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it
would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was
an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to
demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now."

We have learned here that capacitor discharge is like EXPLOSIVE, it has energy gain manifold. We have also seen proof - Tesla laboratory experiment with quite low power melting thick tinfoil instantly.

For those who don't see it : imagine a boxer or wrestler and  we are training him and he accumulate power in muscles and technic to give the final kick. This is capacitor.


Glossary:
damped wave = disruptive discharge of capacitor,squeezing energy in time,energy impulse of explosive nature
undamped wave = continuous oscillation = resonance

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2009, 08:25:22 AM »
I will try to put it as theoretical elaboration done by Tesla in parts.

Part I

Energy impulse.

"(...) The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one
could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in
the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million
horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.
You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt,
an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at
the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.
I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200
horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge
the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are produced. The condenser is the most wonderful
instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the
energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.
A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower,
put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it
would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was
an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to
demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I was not hurt; but, I would not do it now."

We have learned here that capacitor discharge is like EXPLOSIVE, it has energy gain manifold. We have also seen proof - Tesla laboratory experiment with quite low power melting thick tinfoil instantly.

For those who don't see it : imagine a boxer or wrestler and  we are training him and he accumulate power in muscles and technic to give the final kick. This is capacitor.


Glossary:
damped wave = disruptive discharge of capacitor,squeezing energy in time,energy impulse of explosive nature
undamped wave = continuous oscillation = resonance

I SECOND DEMOTION!

CASE CLOSED !

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2009, 08:26:11 AM »
in energy amplification, the photon wins supreme, with photons one can get a 2 for 1 sale at your local LASER medium outfit. in order to get the 2 for 1 sale on photons you have to speak with your local electron Representative.

there is nothing more powerful than the Talisman of light. it can hold the light of the Universe inside an area the size of a thimble. (the perfect Light Trap).

I wonder if the name Talisman can be the elemental, Tantalum, Lithium, Samarium, an?

just kicking some things around, don't mind me.
Jerry ;)

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #68 on: September 23, 2009, 09:13:47 AM »
Hello all,

just "shake" your coils and you will have an energy amplification.

Otto

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #69 on: September 23, 2009, 02:21:54 PM »
Part II

Pendulum.

"(...)if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at
the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more"

"(...)The idea was to put the coil, with reference to the primary, in an inductive connection which was not close—we call it now a loose
coupling—but free to permit a great resonant rise. "


We see here how Tesla described his undamped oscillation circuit as something having continuous wave without squeezing factor possible , but with great resonant rise if permitted to free oscillate. This is exactly what PENDULUM is.

Energy pulse is now converted into continuous oscillation. But that require reviving energy with sporadic energy impulses.

"Then I had a sensibly damped wave because at that time I still
was laboring under the same difficulties as some do this day  ::) —I had not learned how to produce a circuit which would give me, with very few
fundamental impulses, a perfectly continuous wave. That came with the perfection of the devices. When I came to my experiments in Colorado, I
could take my apparatus like that and get a continuous or undamped wave, almost without exception, between individual discharges."


 Many things can be pendulum - coil, combination of coil and capacitor,coilpacitor,oscillating magnetic field of permanent magnet,mechanical pendulum.

It's like allowing our boxer or wrestler to hit a big Tibetan gong.The result of small amount of  hits one after another separated by exact period of time synchronized with gong oscillation is very very  loud sound...

"That was the first single step, as I say, toward the evolution of an invention which I have called my
"magnifying transmitter." That means, a circuit connected to ground and to the antenna, of a tremendous electromagnetic momentum and small
damping factor, with all the conditions so determined that an immense accumulation of electrical energy can take place"

Exactly. Pendulum can accumulate energy, however only when oscillations are not damped ,when force do not act against natural tendency and when periodical energy impulse are only slightly bigger then required to sustain continuous oscillations.


Tesla : "I mean this: If you pass a current into a circuit with large self-induction, and no radiation takes place, and you have a low resistance, there is no
possibility of this energy getting out into space; therefore, the impressed impulses accumulate."

So there is even more that first energy impulse converted into continuous oscillation.All impulses cause amplitude of oscillations to rise if done properly up to the complete damage of device. In common electric resonance circuit total resistance is zero at resonant frequency, that's why pendulum must be constructed as Tesla described with HIS resonance maintained and with electric resonance maintained also.
That would mean an electric circuit with large self-inductance and comparatively small capacitance working at resonant frequency and having special length to maintain Tesla rules.

Tesla : "You see, the apparatus which I have devised was an apparatus enabling one to produce tremendous differences of potential and currents in an
antenna circuit. These requirements must be fulfilled, whether you transmit by currents of conduction, or whether you transmit by electromagnetic
waves. You want high potential currents, you want a great amount of vibratory energy; but you can graduate this vibratory energy. By proper design
and choice of wave lengths, you can arrange it so that you get, for instance, 5 percent in these electromagnetic waves and 95 percent in the current
that goes through the earth. That is what I am doing."

EM radiation should be limited.

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« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2009, 07:38:38 PM »
the photon is the only particle where you can get a true 2 for 1 sale.

take advantage of it.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2009, 11:50:02 PM »
@ Tito

Although I don't believe in the game of secrets you are playing if you seriously have found a way to get OU while millions die from lack of water and food....I will bite my lip & tongue and just ask you the following:

From all of your posts I would like to know which of Tesla's technique in the following quote made it work for you, in other words, which patent?
 
Hi mark

You have a point there,
i think i maybe not just ready for it.

i will prove nothing but i encourage everyone to study this field if you really want to see real power!.
study the tesla's wiring style, efficiency is in there.
still tesla's technique is the superior method!. believe it or not.

PS:  I take part in this forum to try and help people with information if I can and learn somethings along the way, seeing that you had to coerce Otto to give up secrets to help you get what you needed from this forum why not return the favor and help us all achieve OU!

hi sir otto good day!!!

i would like to thank for your informative info where i learned a lot.

i would like you to know also that YOU are very big part of my success.

i made you feel bad just to squeeze some secret info from you, didn't you notice that sir  ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!  ;D  ;D 

Thank you very much sir!

otits



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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2009, 12:23:59 AM »
@Goat,
Never plead to a little man.

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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2009, 12:50:47 AM »
@Goat,
Never plead to a little man.

@ MasterPlaster

I agree with you to a certain point, until it's proven real or fraud even Tesla or Einstein like minds are sometimes hard to get to!  Sometimes they are eccentric in their ways....even at the cost of humanity  ???

The OU scene is alive and well, complete with scammers and schemers...I've yet to find OU anywhere even on an OU forum... ??? ... LOL

Regards,
Paul




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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2009, 07:34:34 AM »
Hi goat good day

what i'm saying is, as i am studying tesla's different kinds of patent, i concentrated most in this patents:
a) U.S. Patent 0,568,178 -
b) U.S. Patent 0,568,179 -
c) U.S. Patent 0,568,180 -
d) U.S. Patent 0,577,670 -

i've read also the teslas interview what forest's is posting in this subject

and i come up in a very simple solution when i combine bearden and bedini's technology.

sorry buddy i cannot give my circuit yet but  i'm telling you the truth.  :(

the only thing that i did not give is the arrangement of the circuit. ok its an rlc.

DO YOU KNOW THAT USING THIS METHOD CAN GENERATE KLWATT FROM A 1.5 VOLTS!
ofcource sub-staging technique must be used ok.  8)

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