Author Topic: How to build a Rodin Coil (Read 65339 times)

magpie · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:39:31 AM »

Quote from: Yucca on February 06, 2009, 09:57:58 AM

@Magpie,

Just a quick heads up, Your coils are very tidy, but not quite built to the specs set out by Rodin. He says that the winds should only occupy two thirds of the toroid. One wind is wound as a band that occupies one third, the second wind next to the first then occupies another third and this leaves one third unoccupied. The two winds are energised with opposite polarity and Rodin says that this empty third is in fact an invisible third wind where some strange tempic field manifests.

Its all about 3,6,9. In his video he says one coil is the 3. One coil is the 6 and the invisible coil is the 9 (which represents the creative force).

Aaah, thanks Yucca,

If you look at the first video I put up showing my first (the orange) coil, you can see there is a ten degree space between the first and second coil as per the diagram, should I be pushing the first and second coils together?
I should point out that my coils are also different in that they use insulated wire, I haven't gotten hold of uninsulated wire but do you know of a solvent for the shellac?
I wonder what happens if you make the first coils out of three winds and the second out of six, I might try fitting on a third coil of nine winds...

TheNOP · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:58:06 AM »

Quote from: magpie on February 07, 2009, 03:33:35 AM

I haven't yet, could you point me to a simple circuit diagram for the Joule Thief?

magpie · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:15:13 AM »

Thanks

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:33:12 AM »

Quote from: magpie on February 07, 2009, 03:21:54 AM

Thanks Jesus,

I don't know much about the Joule thief, does it produce some sort of voltage spike?
What sort of effects would we be expecting connecting the Rodin coil to the Joule Thief circuit?

The joule thief sort of amplify the voltage like a dc to dc voltage booster. It is the transistor that pulsing the toroid transformer does the trick. The resistor plays an important part. It controls the amount of voltage that will go to the transistor's base and also avoids that the LED get blown out by a higher voltage than the max it can manage.

The effects expected by connecting the rodin to a joule thief are unknown. It is been said that the rodin makes a magnet to spin. Also it is not bifilar in order to have a center tap connection.
To make it work you need to use two of them and put one leg of each to positive and the other two legs, one goes to the transistors base through a 1k resistor initially and the other one goes to the transistor's collector.

The output would be, collector positive and emitter negative. Also remember that the emitter is connected to the battery negative.

Maybe I can make a schematic of what I am saying.

Jesus

TheNOP · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:19:02 AM »

if i got it right the rodin coil have 2 coils.

i see at least 3 possible configurations, there might be more.
.

1 - the 2 coils are use like in a basic joule thief.
2 - 1 external inductor with one of the rodin coil as a basic jt, and the other rodin coil as a secondary output
3 - same as # 2 but rodin coils interchanged.

can a rodin coil have more then 2 coils ?

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:35:55 AM »

@magpie

Here is the possible rodin coil joule thief configuration.

Jesus

Edit:

If the rodin coil has two coils, then the configuration is just exactly as the one used for the Joule thief toroid.

Yucca · « **Reply #21 on:** February 08, 2009, 11:01:34 AM »

Quote from: magpie on February 07, 2009, 03:39:31 AM

Aaah, thanks Yucca,

If you look at the first video I put up showing my first (the orange) coil, you can see there is a ten degree space between the first and second coil as per the diagram, should I be pushing the first and second coils together?
I should point out that my coils are also different in that they use insulated wire, I haven't gotten hold of uninsulated wire but do you know of a solvent for the shellac?
I wonder what happens if you make the first coils out of three winds and the second out of six, I might try fitting on a third coil of nine winds...

Hi Magpie,

If you can push the first and second coil together and end up with the gap being the same width as 1 coil band then that should give you the config as per Rodins spec. On a tightly packed coil then you could remove winds until you have one third gapspace and then push the coils together.

I think insulated wire is a requirement. Wire from TV degausing coil, like youÂ´re using, tends to be good quality copper with good varnish, should be perfect.

I donÂ´t know about winding one wrap with multiple of three and other with multiple of six. Rodin never mentions it, but itÂ´s all worth experimenting with.

I canÂ´t find much info about Rodin coils, so it looks like an exciting area of frontier research.

P.S.
If youÂ´ve not watched them yet then do try and watch Rodins youtube vids, I watched them all over 3 nights a few months back, fairly easy and enjoyable watching. He handles a coil so you can have a good look at it.

nievesoliveras · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2009, 04:18:45 PM »

@all

I did not want to say anything yet, but I am having a tremendous success!!!!!!
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.msg158838#msg158838

Jesus

jadaro2600 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2009, 10:08:52 AM »

I expect that it would have to be a rodin-coil hybrid - where one solenoid was inside the rodin - and the two would interact accordingly; I suppose that this would have it's best effects if the inner coil were the lesser wound - for the voltage, and the inner were for the current - after all, that's what a rodin coil is for isn't it?

telemachus · « **Reply #24 on:** February 05, 2012, 09:56:58 AM »

I am trying to make an electronic circuit for my coil so that it can make a neodymium ball spin. I've tried out a few circuits including Jack Scholz's Rodin/starship coil circuits on youtube
but they don't work.

I'm actually using a Starship coil, which is similar to a Rodin coil, but easier to make.
Could someone post a simple Rodin coil circuit diagram/schematic that will make a metal ball spin? Thanks

newtonbenetti · « **Reply #25 on:** January 03, 2014, 06:23:00 PM »

this can work with mercury?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread687405/pg1

jadaro2600 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 28, 2014, 03:36:13 PM »

Quote from: newtonbenetti on January 03, 2014, 06:23:00 PM

this can work with mercury?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread687405/pg1

I wouldn't attempt to do this with mercury. And being able to differentiate any effects might be difficult.

I think the original intent of the experiment was to test a hypothesis related to shaped megnetic vortices.

Since it's been so long since i originally commented here, I gather that not much has come of it, but then again it may have some implications in Bloch Wall utilization by moving the magnetic wall around around a conductor.

Otherwise this just creates an induction heater and may ultimately demagnetize the object.

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