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Author Topic: How to build a Rodin Coil  (Read 65203 times)

magpie

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How to build a Rodin Coil
« on: February 02, 2009, 09:43:05 PM »
Greetings,

I have put up a 2 part video demonstrating how to build a Rodin coil, the coil has had little research done on it and is not difficult to build so I would encourage anyone to experiment with it.
Here are the links:
Part 1:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8jsRmxAzo

Part 2:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=IP5_ShzJcW8

nievesoliveras

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 02:07:58 AM »
@magpie

I think you are doing a good job here. I will post your topic at the joule thief topic so anybody interested come here.

Jesus

jadaro2600

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 04:58:09 AM »
...and the purpose is?

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 09:49:17 PM »

I recall seeing a video by Marco with diagrams...you videos really simplify help to the process.

Thanks...I may even attempt one in the future now.

Regards...


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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 09:56:30 PM »
@magpie

Did you every try your coil with a joule thief curcit?

It would be interesting to see what happens.

innovation_station

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2009, 05:45:29 AM »
i will be building im collecting materials ... 

bet it is a good high speed generator .....


ist!

Yucca

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2009, 09:57:58 AM »
@Magpie,

Just a quick heads up, Your coils are very tidy, but not quite built to the specs set out by Rodin. He says that the winds should only occupy two thirds of the toroid. One wind is wound as a band that occupies one third, the second wind next to the first then occupies another third and this leaves one third unoccupied. The two winds are energised with opposite polarity and Rodin says that this empty third is in fact an invisible third wind where some strange tempic field manifests.

Its all about 3,6,9. In his video he says one coil is the 3. One coil is the 6 and the invisible coil is the 9 (which represents the creative force).
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 10:19:43 AM by Yucca »

Yucca

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2009, 10:03:13 AM »
...and the purpose is?


I think to investigate the properties of this strange coil configuration. It is strange because usually toroidal coils constrain almost all the flux to within the core.

this page explains some of the coils quirkiness:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/rcoil.htm

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Rodin is apparently going by elementary electricity concepts but augmented by excellent native intuition. What he really is doing is attempting to separate the A-potential (i.e., the magnetic vector potential A) from the B-Field, and utilize the curl-free A-potential as an independent field of nature in the central "crossover" region. It is know that it is possible, the well known Aharonov-Bohm effect depends upon precisely this separation...

jadaro2600

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2009, 11:20:58 PM »
IF the juice is flowing in one direction on one winding and one direction on the other, shouldn't the fields cancel each other out?

innovation_station

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 02:52:01 AM »
IF the juice is flowing in one direction on one winding and one direction on the other, shouldn't the fields cancel each other out?

AT THE SAME TIME .....  what if ....  pulse 1 collect pulse outer collect .....

REALLY FAST..... 8)


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AC OUT ?   DC IN ??  ;D

lol

magpie

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 03:21:54 AM »
@magpie

I think you are doing a good job here. I will post your topic at the joule thief topic so anybody interested come here.

Jesus

Thanks Jesus,

I don't know much about the Joule thief, does it produce some sort of voltage spike?
What sort of effects would we be expecting connecting the Rodin coil to the Joule Thief circuit?

magpie

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2009, 03:24:09 AM »
...and the purpose is?


This coil produces a magnetic vortex along with many other interesting effects, however it has had little public research on it so why not experiment? :)

magpie

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2009, 03:26:34 AM »
AT THE SAME TIME .....  what if ....  pulse 1 collect pulse outer collect .....

REALLY FAST..... 8)

ist

AC OUT ?   DC IN ??  ;D

Read my latest post on my other Rodin coil thread, judging from some simple tests what you say may actually be possible except likely the other way around...

magpie

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2009, 03:32:17 AM »
IF the juice is flowing in one direction on one winding and one direction on the other, shouldn't the fields cancel each other out?

Hey Jadaro,

With insulated wire nothing happens in that configuration obviously because of the insulation being in the way.
The original Rodin coil calls for unisulated wire, I did not have this available so connected it like a normal coil and still got a vortex effect, if you configure the wires differently it porduces different effects. For example, you can get it to produce a conical magnetic field that has avery small "pinch" instead of a strong vortex, I'll post videos of the wire configuration tests when I have time.
If uninsulated wire is available though why not connect it per Rodin's specs to see what happens?

magpie

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Re: How to build a Rodin Coil
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 03:33:35 AM »
@magpie

Did you every try your coil with a joule thief curcit?

It would be interesting to see what happens.


Hi slayer007,

I haven't yet, could you point me to a simple circuit diagram for the Joule Thief?
Thanks :)