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Author Topic: HydroMeyers Vic  (Read 147851 times)

Offline johnbostick

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #75 on: February 06, 2009, 07:53:47 AM »
WTF? Calm down? I was calm until you said that. Now I'm going to get all medieval on your white ass.

The term is not medieval it's moron

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #75 on: February 06, 2009, 07:53:47 AM »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #76 on: February 06, 2009, 08:28:34 AM »
Here is a photo of all the parts. Where is that all important VIC transformer? It looks like it became part of the distributor and is now called a hybrid laser distributor.

Where is the tube cell? It became part of the air/gas processor and probably no longer exists because it was replaced with ionized air in a laser cavity and maybe... maybe a single cell but I doubt even that is in inside the air gas processor.

On the back of Meyer's early dune buggy you see a bunch of flat metal plates inside a metal box with a plastic see through lid. That is most likely the air / gas processor where ozone is being made. Meyer most likely later found that the laser helps remove electrons and that makes a much more nasty radical.

What I am sure of is this:

If you think you are going to wind up some resistive wire on that coil form and make a bunch of bubbles, you are completely clueless about how Meyer's process worked.

If you think hooking a fluorescent lamp ballast to a diode and a tube cell in a pepsie bottle is "restricting amp flow in a dead short condition" and some big secret to Meyer, do the world a favor and breath gun powder.

The kids playing with the water spark plug most likely got as close as anyone to replicating the rotary pulse generator mixing pulses of high voltage and hi current.

It produces a cavitation when the high voltage skin effect moves over the top of the water droplet and the electrons move toward the surface. The voltage breakdown then slams them back to the center and creates an atom cluster which explodes back out at near light speed due to coulombs law (like charges repel)  which produces electron cascade and a mass to energy conversion (fission)

Therein most likely lies the secret to the tube cell that people are so fixated on. Learn about the rotary pulse generator and look at the top center tube. You can see a clip holding something in there. A spark gap, a xenon tube, a small hydrogen laser, a mercury gas discharge tube - something along those lines.
I don't have to call you a moron read what you posted.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #77 on: February 06, 2009, 08:31:47 AM »
Ramset - Ask Hartman click on this trolls user name and then click "track user" and ask him to ban the user names and IP's. His purpose here is clear.
If they haven't banned you yet they surely wont ban me.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2009, 02:58:10 PM »
john

This is no time to play games

The Buzz is a serious experimenter with MUCH insight

Please  don't waste his time

I must say you do not seem to be aware of certain things that are relevant to  the Evolution of Meyers tech

Grumpy And the Buzz are

And they are sharing experiment results and TONS of useful information

It is a privilege to have these men here, and to know they are busting their Buts for open source is AMAZING

Please don't hinder this process


     Chet


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2009, 05:53:31 PM »
Buzz

Look at Meyer patents 4,798,661 and 5,149,407

Notice in the first that no chokes are used and the system operates from AC source and also Meyer exaplains the basic process quite clearly.

In the second patent, Meyer explains the use of the various processes to achieve the desired effect.   Many combinations of processes could be  mixed to achieve better results than individual processes.  Figure 9 shows the VIC with a M27 iron core.  The chokes were only 100 turns of 24g.  Later he gives an example with 26v at 10kHz.   He then explains that when resonance is achieve the flow of amps is "minimized" - thus this is not an electrical resonance.  Meyer also explains the cascading of multiple stages to increase the energy in the gas.  Bottom of column 10 mentions the use of a grid to extract electrons - I always wondered about that.

Every one of the processes mentioned is well known process for achieving the same result.  Meyer put them all together.  Meyer went through great pains to remove free electrons - further proof of the fission process that I previous presented.

EDIT:

Stan's pulse generator patent: 4613779

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2009, 05:53:31 PM »
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Offline dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2009, 06:16:08 PM »
john

This is no time to play games

The Buzz is a serious experimenter with MUCH insight

Please  don't waste his time

I must say you do not seem to be aware of certain things that are relevant to  the Evolution of Meyers tech

Grumpy And the Buzz are

And they are sharing experiment results and TONS of useful information

It is a privilege to have these men here, and to know they are busting their Buts for open source is AMAZING

Please don't hinder this process


     Chet

ROFL John playing games ?

Ramset , are you somekind of brainwashed sheep ?

TheBuzz is waterboy aka "OFFICER DOOFY" , the person who started the ``vacuum theory`` , the worst manipulator in OU history , he improvises theories like Eminem freestyles , going with whatever goes best in a given situation , he chooses his words like a diplomat , he thinks of attacks weeks in advance .

Watch yourself , that guy is psycho just like "OFFICER DOOFY"









« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 09:50:57 PM by dankie »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2009, 06:35:53 PM »
Dankie

I made an observation based on evidence
John said NO LASER
Buzz posted LASER
You are very disrespectful  and should recognize a few auction pictures and a roll of wire does not give you credibility
I hear and see you like to fight
Shall we fiddle while Rome burns?
Chet

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2009, 06:35:53 PM »
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Offline dankie

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #82 on: February 06, 2009, 07:33:08 PM »
Dankie

I made an observation based on evidence
John said NO LASER
Buzz posted LASER
You are very disrespectful  and should recognize a few auction pictures and a roll of wire does not give you credibility
I hear and see you like to fight
Shall we fiddle while Rome burns?
Chet

TheBuzz is not helping us , he is just trying to make us second guess ourselves , he wants us to go hunting for right wavelenghts and U.V lasers ...

Yes I like to fight , I am undefeated so far  ... You think TheBuzz is tough lol ? I eat TheBuzz for lunch ... Think you can argument with me TheBuzz ?  When I am done with you even your adoring fan will abandon you ...

Well I say no laser like John , we will NOT build the injector with a laser , it is not needed . And the injector was re-filled with water every engine cycle , there is no steam or gas going to the injector .

We already had a conversation about that on ionizationx ... The voltage alone does the work , no need for photon energy . If you read carefully , you notice there is no talk of any laser here when he explains the whole process  . You can read for yourself  about the laser ... Stan says 820 B , not 830 ...

Now I know TheBuzz will try to contradict me with some  lame confusing argument and distorted facts again and try to contradict Stan again with some wild theory about what he was trying to hide from the patent office ... Plz TheBuzz , enough already ...

Seriously who do you take us for ? We already had these conversations months ago ...

I will now prove this with the tech brief since I know it pretty much by heart , you cant fool me with your lies or your misinterpretations ...

Here you can see the chain of events going on in the injector ... You can also read in black in white what injector was made to be used with an I.C engine ... The laser just adds some extra power/heat to the flame , it acts on the gas once it has exited the cavity and destabilizes even more ...

The prior art is what ? Its the injector without the laser  :o ...

Relax lol , we are not going to the moon with our IC engine , we dont want to bow up the engine ...




« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 10:13:15 PM by dankie »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #83 on: February 06, 2009, 07:45:27 PM »
Dankie

please try to refrain from using the word lies [very combative and aggressive]

It appears to me Its EVOLUTION

This thread was started in a very bitter way, in a theme that does not represent the open source sentiment
I do not believe the material presented by the Buzz was a fraud
And I don't believe the biggest mouth wins
If you are mixing elements of the evolution of Meyers device, and feel you have a solution DO IT
Thats what Grumpy and theBuzz are doing here WORKING ON THEIR THEORY
      Chet
 PS we don't need History lessons on who did said ,what, where, when
The world is smack dab in the middle of a real big history lesson
And these are not times for fighting amongst ourselves
We may be doing that soon enough


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #84 on: February 06, 2009, 08:02:14 PM »
Dankie

please try to refrain from using the word lies [very combative and aggressive]

It appears to me Its EVOLUTION

This thread was started in a very bitter way, in a theme that does not represent the open source sentiment
I do not believe the material presented by the Buzz was a fraud
And I don't believe the biggest mouth wins
If you are mixing elements of the evolution of Meyers device, and feel you have a solution DO IT
Thats what Grumpy and theBuzz are doing here WORKING ON THEIR THEORY
      Chet
 PS we don't need History lessons on who did said ,what, where, when
The world is smack dab in the middle of a real big history lesson
And these are not times for fighting amongst ourselves
We may be doing that soon enough



You are right , these are not the times to start argumenting ... So why are people fuckin argumenting with us ??









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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #84 on: February 06, 2009, 08:02:14 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #85 on: February 06, 2009, 08:06:20 PM »
Dankie
look at the first page of this thread

ITS AN ARGUMENT LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO HAPPEN

Agree to disagree
 Chet

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #86 on: February 06, 2009, 10:12:36 PM »
TheBuzz is not helping us , he is just trying to make us second guess ourselves , he wants us to go hunting for right wavelenghts and U.V lasers ...

Yes I like to fight , I am undefeated so far  ... You think TheBuzz is tough lol ? I eat TheBuzz for lunch ... Think you can argument with me TheBuzz ?  When I am done with you even your adoring fan will abandon you ...

Well I say no laser like John , we will NOT build the injector with a laser , it is not needed

We already had a conversation about that on ionizationx ... The voltage alone does the work , no need for photon energy . If you read carefully , you notice there is no talk of any laser here when he explains the whole process  . You can read for yourself  about the laser ... Stan says 820 B , not 830 ...

Now I know TheBuzz will try to contradict me with some  lame confusing argument and distorted facts again and try to contradict Stan again with some wild theory about what he was trying to hide from the patent office ... Plz TheBuzz , enough already ...

Seriously who do you take us for ? We already had these conversations months ago ...

I will now prove this with the tech brief since I know it pretty much by heart , you cant fool me with your lies or your misinterpretations ...

Here you can see the chain of events going on in the injector ... You can also read in black in white what injector was made to be used with an I.C engine ... The laser just adds some extra power/heat to the flame , it acts on the gas once it has exited the cavity and destabilizes even more ...

The prior art is what ? Its the injector without the laser  :o ...

Relax lol , we are not going to the moon with our IC engine , we dont want to bow up the engine ...

You can do much better than just voltage by incorporating all of the other stuff.   You will never run an IC on just a water cell.


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #87 on: February 06, 2009, 10:28:16 PM »
You can do much better than just voltage by incorporating all of the other stuff.   You will never run an IC on just a water cell.

Lol the injector is no cell ...

What do you mean by " all the other stuff "  ???

Read carefully , stop spreading lies because you cant interpret Stan's words properly ...


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #88 on: February 07, 2009, 12:19:38 AM »
Lol the injector is no cell ...

What do you mean by " all the other stuff "  ???

Read carefully , stop spreading lies because you cant interpret Stan's words properly ...


Yes, that is nice, but you do not have a working injector of any sort.   Even if you did, you would still need the gas processor to charge the intake air and get the nitrogen crap out of the exhaust. 

By the way, the patents are far better than the WFC memo's.  You might want to look at them again.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #89 on: February 07, 2009, 12:19:54 AM »
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« Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 01:14:45 AM by ramset »

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