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Offline ramset

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 08:34:09 PM »
Gentlemen

You are changing the world

I know the sting, It does not feel good [to say the least]

But the 99.9999..... % of the people in the world that will benefit from your hard  work

Should not be lumped in with the,,,,,,oooo1 % of  Shitheads that claim your  hard work as their own

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE SHARED!!

The world needs more men like you

and much less of the other

   Chet

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 08:34:09 PM »

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2009, 10:07:55 PM »
AHHHH,,,,, This is the post i was aiming for!

Guess i don't need to be hanging around here on these forums Showing you how its done since you seem to have it all figured out....

It took long enough, But i made the point i Intended to make when i started this thread.

Who else knows how to do this? Step on up here
are you sure you wanted to show something and not just brag about what you know ?
why hide your source ballast in your videos if you want to help everyone here ?

oh!, yes, i almost forgot, so no one steal your hard work...  :(

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2009, 10:14:58 PM »
AHHHH,,,,, This is the post i was aiming for!

Guess i don't need to be hanging around here on these forums Showing you how its done since you seem to have it all figured out....

It took long enough, But i made the point i Intended to make when i started this thread.

Who else knows how to do this? Step on up here

Leakage transformers are used for arc welding and high voltage discharge lamps. It acts then both as a voltage transformer and as a magnetic ballast.

Some ignition transformers, such as those for oil burners, are also current-limited. 

Whoop-de-doo.  There are several ways to limit current.


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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2009, 11:24:00 PM »
Wow, i never knew there was so many ways to restrict amps ("and allow voltage to take over during a dead short condition in the tens of thousands range all while hitting resonance")...

Fore example, if you add 100 volts to a tube cell and it draws 10 amps, you restricted nothing because its a dead short of 10 amps. If you apply tens of thousands of volts to this same tube containing the same water, and your current flow is in the milliamp range and the voltage reading is in the thousands, Thats not scientificly possible. its called a "Working" vic. Restricting amps in a dead short condition while allowing voltage to take over and PERFORM WORK.

I been working on it 2 years,,,, and i've only found how to do it. "When dealing with myers vic that is."

If you know how its done, Why did you not tell me this 2 years ago? There really isn't any need for me to share anything with anyone since you guy's are saying its an easy process.  I guess i was the slow one, "It took me the longest to figure it out."

Wait until you see my 3" OD vic. The vic now makes a good wat not.

Restricting amps and allowing voltage to take over in a dead short condition is not easy. You have to match the chokes to the fuel cell, Then you have to match the frequency to that, Then depending on how many PPM is in your water you have to yet calculate for that, OH, and water volume, If you do all these calculations, "Or if you even know how to do them" Then i would say you could restrict amps in a dead short and allow voltage to perform its beloved work.

So if someone is saying they're going to make stans vic and demonstrait it,,, They had better know their stuff. Its one Tough cookie.



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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2009, 11:37:31 PM »
Whoop-de-doo.  There are several ways to limit current.
yep

this can too, and can do more then just that too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier

and, no need of special steal alloys...

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2009, 11:37:31 PM »
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2009, 12:10:39 AM »
Wow, i never knew there was so many ways to restrict amps ("and allow voltage to take over during a dead short condition in the tens of thousands range all while hitting resonance")...

Fore example, if you add 100 volts to a tube cell and it draws 10 amps, you restricted nothing because its a dead short of 10 amps. If you apply tens of thousands of volts to this same tube containing the same water, and your current flow is in the milliamp range and the voltage reading is in the thousands, Thats not scientificly possible. its called a "Working" vic. Restricting amps in a dead short condition while allowing voltage to take over and PERFORM WORK.

I been working on it 2 years,,,, and i've only found how to do it. "When dealing with myers vic that is."

If you know how its done, Why did you not tell me this 2 years ago? There really isn't any need for me to share anything with anyone since you guy's are saying its an easy process.  I guess i was the slow one, "It took me the longest to figure it out."

Wait until you see my 3" OD vic. The vic now makes a good wat not.

Restricting amps and allowing voltage to take over in a dead short condition is not easy. You have to match the chokes to the fuel cell, Then you have to match the frequency to that, Then depending on how many PPM is in your water you have to yet calculate for that, OH, and water volume, If you do all these calculations, "Or if you even know how to do them" Then i would say you could restrict amps in a dead short and allow voltage to perform its beloved work.

So if someone is saying they're going to make stans vic and demonstrait it,,, They had better know their stuff. Its one Tough cookie.


you are a fool if you really think you have beaten any physic laws.
no one can beat the way nature work, you can only play by its rules.

scientists know damn well HV can be used for water electrolysis.

it is just not efficient and/or practical for the way industries intended to use the gases for.
you can't just store hydrogen and oxygen in the same compressed storage tank without high risks.
you can't use HV if you do not want to have allotopes and isotopes.


you should search more carefully on this subject and not rely solely on what Meyer sayed in his videos.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2009, 01:41:56 AM »
Wow, i never knew there was so many ways to restrict amps ("and allow voltage to take over during a dead short condition in the tens of thousands range all while hitting resonance")...

Fore example, if you add 100 volts to a tube cell and it draws 10 amps, you restricted nothing because its a dead short of 10 amps. If you apply tens of thousands of volts to this same tube containing the same water, and your current flow is in the milliamp range and the voltage reading is in the thousands, Thats not scientificly possible. its called a "Working" vic. Restricting amps in a dead short condition while allowing voltage to take over and PERFORM WORK.

Voltage can not perform work unless it is "changing" and then it is not just "potential" any more.

As for the "dead short" - this never occurs since the Meyer cell is a "capacitor".  Meyer restricted all forms of current leakage into the cell for a damn good reason that only a few have figured out and they ain't talkin' about it.

Do you and your buddies have any idea how the VIC works? or are you just attempting to recreate something that you don't understand in hopes that it will miraculously work?


I been working on it 2 years,,,, and i've only found how to do it. "When dealing with myers vic that is."

If you know how its done, Why did you not tell me this 2 years ago? There really isn't any need for me to share anything with anyone since you guy's are saying its an easy process.  I guess i was the slow one, "It took me the longest to figure it out."

Wait until you see my 3" OD vic. The vic now makes a good wat not.

Restricting amps and allowing voltage to take over in a dead short condition is not easy. You have to match the chokes to the fuel cell, Then you have to match the frequency to that, Then depending on how many PPM is in your water you have to yet calculate for that, OH, and water volume, If you do all these calculations, "Or if you even know how to do them" Then i would say you could restrict amps in a dead short and allow voltage to perform its beloved work.

So if someone is saying they're going to make stans vic and demonstrait it,,, They had better know their stuff. Its one Tough cookie.

If you really want to figure this out, you better get your shit together.   You do not need an actual VIC - you need something that will produce the same effect in water and since you do not know what the VIC does, you do not know what you need.

Where in the pulse cycle, that Meyer used for the VIC, does the water spit?  I mean, at what point in the pulse cycle is the water actually broken? 

Answering this will tell you why it breaks, and once you know that, you'll know that you don't need a VIC.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2009, 02:06:42 AM »
Grumpy

You will bring tears to the eyes of the wire salesman

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2009, 02:15:25 AM »
I think everybody can now seperate the "real" from the "fake"

Hydro is a proven experimenter and will be working on the REAL VIC , Hydro is "real"

Quit imagining stuff grumpy (pulsed) ,  the VIC is just like Stan describes it on video and in the brief , and now we got a picture of it ...

I was so right for so long , I was chosen to be the messenger , its 50% because of me you get to see the VIC LOL , I negotiated to get those pics dumbass ...

I had to give some wire to dynodon for those pcis lol , he annoyed his friend for weeks for these pics , just so you can see the real VIC







« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 03:02:43 AM by dankie »

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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2009, 05:24:57 AM »
I think everybody can now seperate the "real" from the "fake"

Hydro is a proven experimenter and will be working on the REAL VIC , Hydro is "real"

Quit imagining stuff grumpy (pulsed) ,  the VIC is just like Stan describes it on video and in the brief , and now we got a picture of it ...

I was so right for so long , I was chosen to be the messenger , its 50% because of me you get to see the VIC LOL , I negotiated to get those pics dumbass ...

I had to give some wire to dynodon for those pcis lol , he annoyed his friend for weeks for these pics , just so you can see the real VIC



What a weak-minded, twerpy dipshit.

I guess Hydro never told you about the time that I explained how to use incandescent light bulbs to limit current.  Maybe that was a different Hydro.  Electricity just ain't his forte.  Maybe I'll pull a few post from Hydro and Dankie - show the world how "lost" you guys really are.

You are the "dumbass" - half-cocked and shootin' blanks.  I hope you are eating that damn wire for breakfast.

You both talk smack about how you "deserve credit and recognition" but it's all shit.  He claims he showed UV to everyone, but he doesn't know the correct frequency, how to apply it, or why it is used - just talkin' shit.  A few weeks/months ago you were talkin' shit about how you figure everything out and no one respected that - but you can't explain how the VIC works or why it is even used - you don't even know how it works of even if it does work.   

Meyer is laughing his ass off watching you guys from the best seat in the house. 


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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2009, 06:32:12 AM »
Restricting Amp Flow and allowing voltage to TAKE OVER in a hip hip Dead short condistion, Voltage goes to tens of thousands and beyond!

Voltage will perform Work and Split the water molecule just is hydrocars is showing you in his videos..... :)

If you do not like Stanley meyers Then this is probably not the thread for you,, Because in this thread voltage performs work upon the water molecule as Master Stanley meyer Claimed.

Yay, stan the man with the plan! our hero, Grumpy's Hero! 

Now, buy you some of dankies wire  :P

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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2009, 03:38:50 PM »
Restricting Amp Flow and allowing voltage to TAKE OVER in a hip hip Dead short condistion, Voltage goes to tens of thousands and beyond!

Voltage will perform Work and Split the water molecule just is hydrocars is showing you in his videos..... :)

If you do not like Stanley meyers Then this is probably not the thread for you,, Because in this thread voltage performs work upon the water molecule as Master Stanley meyer Claimed.

Yay, stan the man with the plan! our hero, Grumpy's Hero! 

Now, buy you some of dankies wire  :P

ROFLMFAO!!!

Damn Hydro... You are even more lost than I previously thought.

I leave you to your own demise.

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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2009, 06:08:46 PM »
So much hate since I revealed the VIC box ... It pisses you off that I was right and you were wrong ...after I released those pics all I've heard from you and buzz is complaining

First you complained to me that theres more than one VIC and that Stan's video and tech brief is wrong , after that you complain that we dont know how the VIC works  ... And then you just start attacking us

I'm starting to understand that you are only here to discourage people and for damage control , you are probably some disinfo agent for all I care .



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Re: HydroMeyers Vic
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2009, 06:12:00 PM »
I think everyone here is missing the point.

The way I see what Hydro is saying is the following:

Stan Claimed he had some other method other than standard electrolysis to make Hydroxy, and his process was based on using the so called voltage potential, to get his pattents approved for such process I would think he had to prove it. Did the process have to generate tons of gas to get approved? I don't think so, just needs to show prof of concept. So Stan had to measure high voltage across the wfc and show it to the patent officers just like Hydrocarz did.

Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I get from Hydrocarz Videos, He is showing you what Stan did.

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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2009, 06:23:42 PM »
I think everyone here is missing the point.

The way I see what Hydro is saying is the following:

Stan Claimed he had some other method other than standard electrolysis to make Hydroxy, and his process was based on using the so called voltage potential, to get his pattents approved for such process I would think he had to prove it. Did the process have to generate tons of gas to get approved? I don't think so, just needs to show prof of concept. So Stan had to measure high voltage across the wfc and show it to the patent officers just like Hydrocarz did.

Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I get from Hydrocarz Videos, He is showing you what Stan did.

Absolutely , there's no doubt that Hydro achieved special electrolysis , it should be obvious to everyone by now ... You can count ppl who did this with 3 fingers lol ...

TheBuzz and Grumpy are just arguing  , all they do is this bullshit theorizing and complaining , on and on and on ...

Seriously , TheBuzz (waterboy) , grumpy (pulsed) , stop digging yourselves into a bigger hole


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