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Author Topic: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator  (Read 17066 times)

Offline btalex1990

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My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« on: January 10, 2009, 02:59:19 AM »
Hey everybody this is my ideas that came from my head or a dream that I had and it came to me that since magnets can repel each other why can't we make this runa a generator because all we need is to turn the turbines without the magnets canceling each other out. Also another flaw I fixed is that magnets can run out of power within months or years but my generator uses a bunch of seperate magnets to seperate the power between one another, and they also will be super magnets, and also the material for the turbine must be light so it can spin easier and faster with less magnetic force.

This is my idea, a generator that can last maybe decades, which would help our economy a lot from the depression

So heres the links:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9702096/My-Paper-on-the-Nontested-Theory-of-Magnetism-Powered-Generator

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9699528/Blueprints-for-the-Magnetism-Powered-Generator

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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2009, 03:17:06 AM »
Sorry mate,

before your system can even be considered someone has to figure out how to make a monopole magnet. There is no such thing as a negative magnet and a positive magnet as you assume.

Each magnet has a North and a South pole.

My advice is to buy a book on magnetism, buy a few magnets and play around with them before designing motors.

Hans von Lieven


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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2009, 03:26:39 AM »
Sorry mate,

before your system can even be considered someone has to figure out how to make a monopole magnet. There is no such thing as a negative magnet and a positive magnet as you assume.

Each magnet has a North and a South pole.

My advice is to buy a book on magnetism, buy a few magnets and play around with them before designing motors.

Hans von Lieven

Well it's a simple mistake. The positive is North and Negative is South. I just though North was the same as Postive and South was negative.

but I can change N and P to N and S.

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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2009, 10:27:57 AM »
You still don't get it do you?

There is no such thing as a magnet that has N on both ends or S on both ends as you have it in your paper. See below.

Hans von Lieven


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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2009, 12:27:08 PM »
I think with some creativity you can create an asymmetrical magnet, when put it in a uniform magnet field, it would accelerate. On the other hand you can also try to find a uniform circular electric field. Of course in theory none of these are possible, but who cares for a stupid approximation, right?

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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2009, 03:23:25 PM »
Each magnet has a North and a South pole.
Yes, Hans, but the unwanted pole can be designed to be out
of the way, using various techniques like radial bar magnets
with all of one pole at the centre.
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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2009, 04:26:35 PM »
Monopole magnets are an interesting idea, but this require knowing how bipolar magnets are made.  Most companies keep their magnetization a secret - I imagine that it utilizes a fluctuating pulsed ac field for a duration followed by pulsed dc field then a continuous field with a simultaneous lowering of the temperature.   ..this would make the most sense - to create a tank circuit-like setup and then create the obvious reference field.

This highest quality magnets are subjected to a magnetic field in oder to gain the 'permanent' status.  In order to create a monopole, one would have to wind in on itself, the magnetic field.  Unless there's so great leap in understanding about poles, then one will simply create a magnet with north on the out side and south on the inside where explosion of the magnet is greater than would be on a standard magnet.

Forcing two poles together only results in a contortion of the already-present field, where; if north poles are outward, then south pole field lines are pushed further away from the longitudinal axis.  Suppression of this could be achieved through shielding BUT...If you understand how shielding works, then the shield simply conducts the field in a vector perpendicular to the magnetic field allowing it to return to the opposite pole via a different route.  No true shielding exists, only deflection.  Consider that most magnetic shielding is made out of ferromagnetic materials, and you see what I mean.

What your aiming for is a "monopole"?  ...then you can simply design whatever system to utilize the single pole?  The thing is, that one pole will adjoin lines with an opposite pole - these are actually vectors attempting to align through space to facilitate expenditure of energy. All systems tend towards entropy.

In your second posted link, the drawing indicates monopoles - the inner poles will attempt to align, however the outer poles will cross link or link as they normally would in a standard magnet - additionally, you have to consider that the centers of the 'monopole' will be linking or cross linking as well.

Why wouldn't you system work any differently without standard magnets?  In your setup, the poles furthest away and closes to each other will link - even if they're dissuaded by shielding.

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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2009, 12:12:04 PM »
Monopole magnets are an interesting idea, but this require knowing how bipolar magnets are made.  Most companies keep their magnetization a secret - I imagine that it utilizes a fluctuating pulsed ac field for a duration followed by pulsed dc field then a continuous field with a simultaneous lowering of the temperature.   ..this would make the most sense - to create a tank circuit-like setup and then create the obvious reference field.

This highest quality magnets are subjected to a magnetic field in oder to gain the 'permanent' status.  In order to create a monopole, one would have to wind in on itself, the magnetic field.  Unless there's so great leap in understanding about poles, then one will simply create a magnet with north on the out side and south on the inside where explosion of the magnet is greater than would be on a standard magnet.

Forcing two poles together only results in a contortion of the already-present field, where; if north poles are outward, then south pole field lines are pushed further away from the longitudinal axis.  Suppression of this could be achieved through shielding BUT...If you understand how shielding works, then the shield simply conducts the field in a vector perpendicular to the magnetic field allowing it to return to the opposite pole via a different route.  No true shielding exists, only deflection.  Consider that most magnetic shielding is made out of ferromagnetic materials, and you see what I mean.

What your aiming for is a "monopole"?  ...then you can simply design whatever system to utilize the single pole?  The thing is, that one pole will adjoin lines with an opposite pole - these are actually vectors attempting to align through space to facilitate expenditure of energy. All systems tend towards entropy.

In your second posted link, the drawing indicates monopoles - the inner poles will attempt to align, however the outer poles will cross link or link as they normally would in a standard magnet - additionally, you have to consider that the centers of the 'monopole' will be linking or cross linking as well.

Why wouldn't you system work any differently without standard magnets?  In your setup, the poles furthest away and closes to each other will link - even if they're dissuaded by shielding.


I read what you said and ur right. I really don't know much about magnets. I just thought since north and positive repelled that I can run this generator since I used to have a magnet collection and had magnets repelled one another but when I turn them around or whatever I did as a child the magnets collided.

I do need to rethink magnets and then change my blueprints to suit my idea. So then maybe some of the people wouldn't laugh at me although it wasn't because of the north and south thing, they made fun of me because they thought my idea would never work, it goes against the laws of physics, and they all attacked me, well two forums attacked me and I may have been banned when I discuessed the idea.

Well a youtube video said on a austrialia news station he made a generator that broke the laws of physics and so how come I can be a failure from the start. We broke the laws of gravity. Someone also said my idea was like some magic generator like I'm some sort of magic nutcase that believes everythings magic.

I'm glad ur all mature here. You tell me whats wrong and I can improve on it instead of you saying I'm a troll, I'm some nutcase, or my ideas impossible.

I rather take criticism, or constructive criticism then insults. Many forums elsewhere (no offense) gives me nothing but insults and attacks and some dirty images but you don't do that here.

I will improve on it as much as I can until I have proof that it works or proof that my idea is really a dud.

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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2009, 12:16:39 PM »
Thats it! I did the entire blueprints wrong unless I was plainning the generator to work through attraction.

North is against north.

South repels south.

So now I get it. I need to change them to a plan thats much more logical and yet good enough to work.

Thank you people, now I can definately make myself not look crazy because north doesn't repel postive, north repels north.

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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2009, 09:43:13 PM »
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Well a youtube video said on a austrialia news station he made a generator that broke the laws of physics and so how come I can be a failure from the start. We broke the laws of gravity. Someone also said my idea was like some magic generator like I'm some sort of magic nutcase that believes everythings magic.

I'm glad ur all mature here. You tell me whats wrong and I can improve on it instead of you saying I'm a troll, I'm some nutcase, or my ideas impossible.

lol, you're no troll - and we all make mistakes.  Hopefully, i'm not coming off as a troll.  Generally speaking, your design will cause cross linking of the outermost magnet poles.

Thats it! I did the entire blueprints wrong unless I was plainning the generator to work through attraction.

North is against north.

South repels south.

So now I get it. I need to change them to a plan thats much more logical and yet good enough to work.

Thank you people, now I can definately make myself not look crazy because north doesn't repel postive, north repels north.

If you take a single magnet, and rotate longitudinal bars around this magnet ..picture a barrel and the lats of the barrel, as you have drawn in the prints.  rotating this barrel around the magnet will produce  usable current.  I don't know about anything being self driven though.  Keep trying.  It's called a barrel type homopolar or unipolar generator, aka, an axial homopolar / unipolar generator.

Searching google books for these devices will yield several complete volumes / books within which these are described in detail.

As for the magnets, if you push two together, the field lines as the junction are push outward radially - saying you have two round magnets in repulsion - your inner poles become stronger further away from the center axis than they normally would.  Just the opposite, if you bring two unlike poles close together, at their ends, radial magnetic field strength decreases as they depart from linking to their opposite ends while simultaneously, those far-end poles begin to link as the two form one larger single magnetic field.

take two linked magnets and bend them apart so that they're sitting next to each other - they shouldn't span back together or fly apart because the pull on each of the poles is equal, what's more intriguing, if you have a large round magnet and place a small round magnet on it, it will not want to stay vertical near the edges while in the center it will be fine; this is because the overall magnetic field is in less of an equilibrium around the periphery of the larger disk than it is in the middle RELATIVE to the smaller magnet. ... have two like sized magnets, and they'll want to align.

Furthermore, if you have three round disk magnets and you can get the three to stick to one another on their rims; if you push two of these together, they're going to repel.  the shape you're trying to create is basically the head of mickey mouse... hold the head and try to move one ear closer to another.

http://physics.technion.ac.il/~rutman/jeremy%27s%20seminar.html has some interesting information. Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array.

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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 11:33:47 PM »
I just made a revision and decided to add it as another upload to scribd.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11452998/Blueprints-for-the-Magnetism-Powered-Generator-R2D3

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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 11:52:38 PM »
End to end facing ( n - n ) through a coil will not generate as much electricity as  ( n - s ) facing magnets, the setup will create electric flow.  I just don't know how much.

The magnetic fields will not cross frames, they'll just distend to one another's ends at sharper spline bends.


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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2011, 06:03:02 AM »
Hi There, I read about a patent allowed in 1991 I think it was. A magnet powered motor using opposing magnetic fields in a circle with the magnets set at an angle of 37 deg if memory serves. The only issue was lack of control of speed, without any opposition the invention just continued to accelerate. YOU KEEP LOOKING BUDDY. forget the scoffin boffins whos minds have been trained not test the limits set by mens so called laws written a couple of hundred years ago.

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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2011, 10:18:03 PM »
I thought it is worth making a couple of observations:

(i)  At one time the renowned scientists of their time thought earth was the centre of the universe and that it was a flat disc.

(ii)  About a 100 years ago a philosopher deduced that universe was created with a big bang. Scientific community dismissed this idea.  Some 40 years later a couple of scientists set out to prove this theory to be wrong.  Their conclusion was quite the opposite.

I find the  idea of single pole magnets to be fascinating.


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Re: My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2011, 08:22:24 AM »
I thought it is worth making a couple of observations:

(i)  At one time the renowned scientists of their time thought earth was the centre of the universe and that it was a flat disc.

(ii)  About a 100 years ago a philosopher deduced that universe was created with a big bang. Scientific community dismissed this idea.  Some 40 years later a couple of scientists set out to prove this theory to be wrong.  Their conclusion was quite the opposite.

I find the  idea of single pole magnets to be fascinating.
The big bang theory is so full of holes you could use it to sieve water. It is a theory that suits religious creationists because it implies a beginning and a need for something (god ??) to create that beginning. The big bang theory requires so many ad-hoc assumptions and add-ons to make it work, all of which have not been verified by emperical data. It has become a joke.
In the last 30 years, with major advancements in astronomical tools, the collective sum of evidence against big bang theory is greater than the one and only piece of evidence which has been used to prop it up. That prop is the observation of galaxial redshift, which has other explanations than just that of an expanding universe from a central big bang.
The following link will take you to a site which frames the problems with big bang theory very well. Interestingly, the site is actually a pro-creationist site, yet the author who wrote the article is clearly not a big bang believer, even though the big bang theory was first postulated by a roman catholic priest.
http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=9&article=1453

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