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Offline Goat

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2008, 07:30:19 PM »
Hi All

I don't mean to derail this thread but I've been looking for information on a video posted about a year ago by hydrocarz on Utube at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vch5_9T4lo0&NR=1

I've searched the forum but couldn't find any posts relating to his circuit which he mentioned having posted here?

"i have the schematic at overunity and waterfuel cell, have a look and retry, what ever it's doing it is doing it.. i cant really comment on it because i dont know what it's doing. i think it's resonating. the battery cant run the light but the circuit can??? the output is dc."

Does anyone know of this resonating circuit?

Regards,
Paul

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2008, 11:16:16 PM »
Hi Paul,

I have seen this video some time ago but I have not seen the circuit. Some how I think if this is real the most important part would be the state of the dead battery. Someone has recently started a topic about a dead battery capable of creating a charging effect as a load is connected. One thing I can tell you is, not all dead batteries are equal.

You can have a look at the topic if you want: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4612.0

All have given up in attempts of replication as non have found that special dead battery, even the individual who made the claim no longer can get the effect as he no longer has the battery.

Keep your dead batteries to try his circuit, you never know ;D

Luc
« Last Edit: December 09, 2008, 12:21:50 AM by gotoluc »


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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2008, 11:42:47 PM »
@Paul,
I contacted hydrocarz about a year ago and did not get any solid answers
so, I guess we'll never find out.

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2008, 08:24:36 PM »
Hi everyone,

I just uploaded a new video to which uses and demonstrates a circuit that was designed by Overunity user: Groundloop. 

Groundloop came up with this circuit design after I asked him to replicate a 12vdc DPDT relay for me but using solid state components. Since I had some IRF640 MOSFET's on hand and some 4013 I asked him to use these components in the circuit if he could. Being a brilliant electronics man that he is ;)...  in no time did he come up with the circuit below to which is now public domain ;D   Also please note that I asked Groundloop to make the schematic illustrative (not standard EE), so I and most anyone with basic electronics skill could understand and build it.

A big thank you to Groundloop for all his help.

Here is the new video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPXLDLS7QQw


What the circuit is doing in the video is using a DC input (12vdc Battery) and reversing (flip flop) its polarity on the output (coil) at the desired frequency I chose using my signal generator to trigger the logic side of the circuit. Please note that none of the power of the signal generator enters the circuit. Also, in this video the power for the logic (switching) is coming from the same battery since it works on 12vdc. However the circuit can take an input of up to 200vdc on the switching side but the logic side needs to be 12vdc at all time, so that is the reason for the separate input feeds.

Luc
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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2008, 03:33:34 AM »
Hi everyone,

I have uploaded a new video demonstrating the effects of a higher input voltage at the coil.

I had to cut the video at the 10 minute mark, so I could not show the temperature reading taken off the bulbs surface. It was 130 degrease Fahrenheit:D

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP24RjAt4VI

Luc

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2008, 06:29:47 AM »
@gotoluc

Good thread.

Thanks for the circuit of @groundloop also. This will reverse polarity on the two output terminals. This will be very good for more experiments. I am only worrying about the damn flyback.  Always the fylback. Here is a puzzle. How do you diode back the flyback on a coil that is getting reversed polarity pulses????

Can this circuit also do a real DPDT as you mentioned you had asked to @groundloop or is a real DPDT impossible with mosfets. (I don't know enough EE to know). But......... I could really use such a DPDT circuit diagram to do more Erfinder circuit experiments. I have never done it with mosfets. I could give the circuit to my EE guys to make it for me. I could  ask them to put mosfet push in terminals in case I blow them (as usual).

I have been working on resonance also. I am trying to standardize a resonance method for standard AC transformers and will post on your thread some time next week if you don't mind.

On your last video, did you ever try to put a magnet near the bulb with the spark gap?

Keep up the good work.

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2008, 08:16:06 AM »
@gotoluc

Good thread.

Thanks for the circuit of @groundloop also. This will reverse polarity on the two output terminals. This will be very good for more experiments. I am only worrying about the damn flyback.  Always the fylback. Here is a puzzle. How do you diode back the flyback on a coil that is getting reversed polarity pulses????

Can this circuit also do a real DPDT as you mentioned you had asked to @groundloop or is a real DPDT impossible with mosfets. (I don't know enough EE to know). But......... I could really use such a DPDT circuit diagram to do more Erfinder circuit experiments. I have never done it with mosfets. I could give the circuit to my EE guys to make it for me. I could  ask them to put mosfet push in terminals in case I blow them (as usual).

I have been working on resonance also. I am trying to standardize a resonance method for standard AC transformers and will post on your thread some time next week if you don't mind.

On your last video, did you ever try to put a magnet near the bulb with the spark gap?

Keep up the good work.

Hi wattsup,

thanks for dropping in ;D 

Groundloop originally designed the circuit for my hand drawn circuit below. As you can see it was to do something different then I'm doing now and it works great ;)  so I'm quite sure it will do what a DPDT relay can do but only limited the the MOSFET max. amps and voltage specs.

Today I notified Groundloop of this topic, so I think he may drop in if he is around. He would be the best one to ask about what you can or cannot do with this compared to a contact relay.

For flyback I think the dual diode AV plug works well off one leg of the coil like the diagram I did on the first page of this topic.

Please do post any of your findings about resonance here as well if you don't mind. It would be helpful to have some variety ;D

I just tried the magnet near the spark gap bulb now and it does nothing if the bulb is connected to earth ground but if I remove the ground then it does not jump to the filament and becomes a purple kind of gas that flows to the glass globe of the bulb and somewhat follow the magnet but it does the same if I move my finger on the glass.

Luc

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2008, 05:18:35 PM »
@wattsup,

An electronic switch will never be a 100% substitute for a mechanical relay.
That said, a electronic switch can do a lot of tasks and will last longer than
a mechanical relay. The switch in the circuit drawing that Luc posted will
survive a lot of flyback abuse due to the internal protection diodes in the
transistors. All HEXFET transistors can take a lot of power as long as
you pay attention to the safe operation area of the transistor. This means
that if you want to switch high voltage then the current must be low.
Opposite for high current, the voltage must be low. So you just select
the transistor type that fits your switching needs. The mosfet drivers
in the circuit can gate drive bigger HEXFETs than shown in the drawing.
I have used those IC's to drive IGBT's also. So it boils down to what you
want to switch, high current or high voltage. If you want both, then the
transistors will be expensive. Tell me what you want and I can design
a circuit that will do that. PM me your mail address and I will contact you.

@gotoluc,

Great videos posted. I liked the video where you could see that the energy output increased
in the bulb when the L/C tank was in resonance with the switching frequency.
Keep up the good work. :-)

Groundloop.

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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2008, 06:19:24 PM »
Thanks for dropping in Groundloop ;D and to better explain your circuit ;)

You are truly a great soul to offer to help us less knowledgeable in electronics with circuit solutions to do our experiments with.

May blessings come your way for this great service to your fellow man.

Luc

 

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2008, 07:09:58 PM »
Be careful with how solid state replacement parts are designed,

The main difference between a relay and a mosfet would be the ability to switch AC signals. If you were to look up the design of a solid state relay, it consists of two mosfets back to back with common input, so that current may flow in either direction.

 Problems in switching can occur with the freewheel diodes that show up in protected fets. When the inductive collapse occurs, these diodes short the collapse back to the source in a detrimental way. If you are looking to switch resonant circuits, and you want the inductive collapse to enter into a capacitive element, then this freewheel diode must either be removed from the situation, or taken out of operation. Then you must make sure that the peak voltage on the capacitive element durring oscillation is below the dielectric breakdown voltage of the mosfet to ensure it does not fry.

You dont actually have to do any math, this is just for optimization, just make sure your inductive collapses are going where you intend them to go, or are used as you intended, and not just being shorted back to the source in a negative way.

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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2008, 08:55:46 PM »
Hi armagdn03,

thanks for keeping an eye on this topic ;) ... some of what you talk about is a little past me with my minimal EE knowledge. I hope Groundloop reads your post and understands your instructions better than me :P

Please feel free to post your comments at any time.

Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.

Luc

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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2008, 05:30:17 AM »
Hi everyone,

I have a small update video if anyone is interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do7pHvyiLks

Luc


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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2008, 01:34:57 PM »
@gotoluc

Good video. I think you were shoveling the same snow as me today. I'm north of Montreal. lol

The one layer coil is basically a mini tesla-coil secondary and it was good to see the gradual increase in energy from the neon. Just be careful with that neon. The way you were swinging it around, we will have to call you gotoluc skywalker. lol

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« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2008, 02:15:25 PM »
Hi everyone,

I have a small update video if anyone is interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do7pHvyiLks

Luc

Very nice work!

The effects you show (lights brightest at certain locations on the coil or particular coil wire) are the methods used in radio tech. Perhaps 'old tech' in radio - HAM.

If you were to increase the driving frequency you will find the peak point will change. Raise it high enough and you will have multiple peak points on the coil. These points tell you where the peaks and troughs of the wave are (nodes and anti-nodes).

Since there is only one end with the bright point and the other end shows nothing I would say your coil is equal to a quarter wavelength of the frequency from your circuit.

I can't say much about the heat of your components because one type of circuit the heat is expected when the tank is resonant where another type the  heat is unexpected.
 


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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2008, 03:31:08 PM »
stationary waves, Aromaz should also look for them

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