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Author Topic: How many Liters per Minute a scooter need?  (Read 6814 times)

Magnethos

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How many Liters per Minute a scooter need?
« on: November 25, 2008, 06:37:31 PM »
I want to know how much HHO Gas liters per minute, a scooter need.
http://es.motorfull.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/f_hybrid_scooter_hydrogen.jpg

I know different motors need different amounts, but let me know what you think!

P.S In an explosion motor.
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Hydro-Cell

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Re: How many Liters per Minute a scooter need?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 07:05:32 PM »
hhmmm lets see

lets say for instance you have a 50cc scooter

thats 50cc of air per cycle
i think a scooter can rev to 6000 revs so we will take this as maximum

so thats 6000rpm x 50cc =  300000cc or 300lpm
we can devide this by 2 due to the engine being a 4 stroke so were down to 150lpm of air

fuel has a ratio of 14.7 : 1 whereas hydrogen can burn as low as 2% volume. so lets take 10% to give a top line figure

this now means that the required amount of fuel would be 15lpm to run at 6000rpm at tickover 1000rpm you would only need 2.5lpm

i have a 400cc honda engine running on just 14lpm of hho gas so it may be possible for a 50cc scooter to run on less than the above figures

there would be a few problems running like this, for instance timing, waste spark, electronic ignition, etc will all be an issue.
i have overcome all of these issues involved and will answer any questions if you have any
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vonwolf

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Re: How many Liters per Minute a scooter need?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 07:44:47 PM »
Quote from: Hydro-Cell on November 25, 2008, 07:05:32 PM
hhmmm lets see


i have a 400cc Honda engine running on just 14lpm of hho gas so it may be possible for a 50cc scooter to run on less than the above figures

there would be a few problems running like this, for instance timing, waste spark, electronic ignition, etc will all be an issue.
i have overcome all of these issues involved and will answer any questions if you have any

   Hey Hydro-Cell
  This sound great I have a few questions  what kind of HHO Generator system are you using? Is it closed circut? and one last thing is the motor under any kind of load?
    Keep up the great work and keep us in the loop.
                                                             Thanks Pete
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Magnethos

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Re: How many Liters per Minute a scooter need?
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 07:48:16 PM »
Thank you very much.
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sucahyo

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Re: How many Liters per Minute a scooter need?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 01:46:45 AM »
It interesting how everyone think alike:
The link in this link show that kind of scooter scooter idling using HHO, mentioned having 1.5-2lpm.
Scooter running on Hydroxy @ 13.4V , 10.5A !
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Hydro-Cell

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Re: How many Liters per Minute a scooter need?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 11:34:10 AM »
Quote from: vonwolf on November 25, 2008, 07:44:47 PM
   Hey Hydro-Cell
  This sound great I have a few questions  what kind of HHO Generator system are you using? Is it closed circut? and one last thing is the motor under any kind of load?
    Keep up the great work and keep us in the loop.
                                                             Thanks Pete

hi
the hho generator is a bit different to what you will have seen before. at its core is a 4000 metre coil emmitting a 42.8khz electromagnetic pulse.
around this coil are 8 3" diameter pipes carrying water through a series of plates with a 2 other frequencies being put through them.
the whole unit is contained within a cage to stop emisions.

this cell puts out about 80+ lpm @ 40amps 13.8volts
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