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Author Topic: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !  (Read 68981 times)

Offline shablol

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2008, 05:33:03 AM »
And here's what i think. it is
Cristal Clear that Wizardofmars is not some hobbiest inventor
nor a seeker of Truth.   the moment i saw his posts. it cried out:
I AM here to plant Fear and doubt,  .I AM at the service of the true rulers.

here you will find the truth
save it . we wll need it.
http://www.neo.im/mediadetails.php?key=f6374bf2abb0e42e8a0c&title=Magnetic+Energy+-+Free+Energy

Love, Light, Life.   

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Offline wizardofmars

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2008, 07:28:39 AM »
the moment i saw his posts. it cried out: I AM here to plant Fear and doubt,  .I AM at the service of the true rulers.

The moment I saw your posts, I had to read them again..and again. Education FAIL.

Quote
here you will find the truth
save it . we wll need it.
http://www.neo.im/mediadetails.php?key=f6374bf2abb0e42e8a0c&title=Magnetic+Energy+-+Free+Energy

Cute site - the Lutec scam is on the front page. That has been debunked here several times. Try the search box next time.

Got anything new to show?


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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2008, 11:55:07 AM »
Believe me I AM here...and  I AM set.
it is  your country that's going down...

it is coming... awakening is every where,
good luck.

Offline wizardofmars

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2008, 03:44:31 AM »
it is  your country that's going down...

And which country would that be?


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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2008, 03:48:09 AM »

Musta forgot you were from mars. ;D

Regards...

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
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Offline Shanti

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2008, 11:06:37 AM »
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Musta forgot you were from mars.

 ;D

Seriously. It doesn't make sense to debunk one another. Everybody has the right for his own truth. WizardofMars believes the Ralph Ring-Carr story is a scam, and he has every right to state this.
Unfortunately not too many things are known about Carr, so we probably never will be able to find evidence for the story.
So it's up to everybody for himself to decide what he believes in or not.
I personally am grateful, that people do have different opinions, and are also able to contribute them. For only like that we are able to get a complete picture.

Wish you all a Merry Christmas!

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2008, 06:20:33 PM »
Hi all,

like to add my two cents here :

1) channeling method for technology-transfer was first used in germany in the 1918 by the secret Thule-socienty founded by a person named Graf von Sebottendorf. More prominet members of this secret socienty  : Adolf Hitler and  Rudolf Steiner etc and a psychic rumanian woman who served as a chanel.
I anyone believes that  this is a valuable method for manifesting an advanced propulsion-technolgy without basic scientific knowledge by using a medium I would give you the advice to look for the results so far.

2) Written in this Magentic-Theory-book there is one outstanding sentence which points at the quality of this basic knowledge "This technology will work after a pole shift"

Question : how many poles does a magnet have ? Just reverse the polarity of the magnetic setup and this technique should work right now.

I am amazed how gullible some people are.

For our german-speaking members go for a brief decription of the thule-society here :

http://www.stattweb.de/baseportal/ArchivDetail&db=Archiv&Id=25

The name is still in use today among the neoNazis.

Regards

Kator01


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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
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Offline wizardofmars

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2008, 09:50:43 PM »
1) channeling method for technology-transfer was first used in germany in the 1918 by the secret Thule-socienty founded by a person named Graf von Sebottendorf. More prominet members of this secret socienty  : Adolf Hitler and  Rudolf Steiner etc and a psychic rumanian woman who served as a chanel.
I anyone believes that  this is a valuable method for manifesting an advanced propulsion-technolgy without basic scientific knowledge by using a medium I would give you the advice to look for the results so far.

Please post one credible source for this nonsense. I read Brenna's Occult Reich in the 70's. It was only later I found out JH Brennan was a mystic and the claims have only gotten more outrageous since then with the bogus 'Nazi Bell'. Hitler publicly rejected mystical cults in Mein Kampf and many other speeches.

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2008, 10:07:27 PM »

Truth can be found no matter how muddy the water...turning off the water is analogous to 'throwing the baby out with the bath water'.

It is much wiser to filter the water.

Regards...


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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #54 on: December 25, 2008, 01:49:08 AM »
Hi wizardofmars,

You should be careful in classifying this as bogus. Looks as if there is something wrong in this thread here.
Unfortunately I do only have information in german language and one of the source is the historian G.Edward Griffin. I am a german and  have found this info reliable because there was another swiss female author who had done extensive research on this. I stumbled on this 10 years ago. Could be I have it savde in one of my old computer but it also is written in german language.

Maybe you can read the source here. The german nazi-gang had a very mystical background especially Himmler was a fanatic in this thule-cult. Of course Hilter would reject his participation in the public as this was years before he gained power.

Of cource you will  find in the wickipedia only a fraction of this and the the American, Britisch and French Allies did destroy much of this historical info but some parts could be saved.This Thuile-society was developing in the turbulent times of 1917 after WW 1. Hilter was a nobody at this time.

This paper here deals with the preparation for WW2 and its financiers :

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:l5mYXoe1u3sJ:www.computerbase.de/forum/attachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D3595%26d%3D1048104537+Graf+von+Sebottendorf&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=19&gl=de&lr=lang_de

Scroll down to the paragraph and use google-translation:

"ADOLF SCHICKLGRUBER UND DIE THULE-GESELLSCHAFT"

ADOLF SCHICKLGRUBER was Hilter true name.

Here you can read about Freiher Graf of Sebottendorf and the psychic medium MARIA ORSITSCH (Orsic).
It is all well documented.

List of members :

1. Freiherr Rudolf von Sebottendorf, Ordenshochmeister

2. Guido von List, Ordensmeister

3. Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels, Ordensmeister

4. Adolf Hitler, Führer, Reichskanzler und Oberster SS-Führer

5. Rudolf Hess, Stellvertreter des Führers und SS- Obergruppenführer

6. Hermann Göring, Reichsmarschall und SS-Obergruppenführer

7. Heinrich Himmler, Reichsführer SS und Reichsminister

8. Alfred Rosenberg, Reichsminister und NS-Reichsleiter

9. Hans Frank, Dr. Dr. h. c., NS-Reichsleiter und Generalgouverneur in Polen

10. Julius Streicher, SA-Obergruppenführer und Gauleiter von Franken

11. Karl Haushofer, Prof Dr., Generalmajor a.D.

12. Gottfried Feder, Prof Dr., Staatssekretär a.D.

13. Dietrich Eckart, Chefredakteur des »Völkischen Beobachters«

14. Bernhard Stempfle, Hitlers

Wickipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

and here munich historical english info because the Thule-Member had their gathering in the hotel Vierjahreszeiten in munich:

http://www.muenchen.de/Stadtleben/Kultur_Unterhaltung/kulturreferat/museen/nsdokumentationszentrum/253740/Antisemitism_rightwingextremism.html

Regards

Kator01





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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
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Offline wizardofmars

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #55 on: December 27, 2008, 01:22:05 AM »
Hi wizardofmars,

You should be careful in classifying this as bogus. Looks as if there is something wrong in this thread here.
Unfortunately I do only have information in german language and one of the source is the historian G.Edward Griffin.

Let's stop right there.  Griffin is not a historian . He's a promoter of many fanciful theories, and this is just one of them.

Quote from: Wikipedia
G. Edward Griffin (born November 7, 1931) is an American film producer, author, and political lecturer.[1] Starting as a child actor, he became a radio station manager before age 20. After writing for the 1968 Wallace campaign, he began a career of producing documentaries and books on controversial topics like cancer, Noah's ark, and the Federal Reserve, as well as on right-libertarian theories of the U.S. Supreme Court, terrorism, subversion, and foreign policy. Since the 1970s, Griffin has promoted Laetrile as a killer of cancer cells, a view accepted by few scientists.[2][3] He has also promoted the Durupınar site as hosting the original Noah's ark, though opposed by some Creationists and many scientists. He strongly opposes the Federal Reserve, charging it with being a banking cartel and an instrument of war and totalitarianism.[4] In 2002, Griffin founded the individualist network Freedom Force International.

So what are your other sources of info beyond Griffin?

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2008, 05:01:23 PM »
Helo,

since  this is offtopic here this will my last response :

Reliable info from Willy Ley, a German rocket engineer.

If I have time I will try to find it in german language.
It is up to you to find out about the Pseudesience in Naziland"

here :

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/miscellabyrinth.html

Maria Orsitch :

http://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Maria_Orsitsch

You have to use a translation-tool

I do not chase pipe-dreams.

By the way, you will find almost anything which Des Griffin has written about the secret societies and the FED, has become true.

If you do not believe it, please see here :

http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/

Scroll down and read the Enrons before and after Christ and watch this website on a daily basis.
I will give no further comments.
Find out the truth yourself

Regards

Kator01




Offline Mk1

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2008, 06:21:44 AM »
Ok i assume that you all know the lifters project at http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm

Also try a coil of 6 inch 250 turns of 30 gauge copper wire on the 120 volt main and it will lift.
At your own risk .
 
The proof  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qljY-YfFaPc&feature=related , at 1min22

Now stop arguing and get working.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2008, 07:09:27 PM by Mk1 »

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2008, 10:09:04 PM »
Dear MK1,

this is nothing more than eddy-currents generated by the ac-driven coil in the aluminium-plate. these eddy-currents
generate a magnetic field opposing the magnetic field of the coil.

This is the type of desinformation which can only deceive electronically non-educated people.

Regards

Kator01


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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #59 on: December 28, 2008, 10:33:46 PM »
@ kator01

If that is electronically non-educated, i must say its more interesting then reading educated people disbelief and lack of imagination,
If education leads to knowing all so be it. And yes asymmetric caps and eddy current are not the same technology as discussed, but do get of the ground.   

I saw a ufo as a kid and they are as real as you and me , Yes they must be from other galaxies , because humans are to dumb to try such a thing , I still prefer thinking we are smart enough to try.How are discoveries made if if educated people know all ?
Maybe because of mistakes result of uneducated guess.

In the definition of education there is nothing about teaching to be truth.

Thank for the comment, keep the good work!
« Last Edit: December 28, 2008, 10:56:51 PM by Mk1 »

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