I,m not sure the bucket generator would work out so well in the self operating percolator gas generator, but it is another cool device!

It looks to be building a static charge from one side draining faster maybe?
Then because like charges repel, each bucket uses it's charge to prevent the other bucket from accumulating it's polarity. So the potential difference increases!

Hmmm... is that correct?

I'm not sure how the bucket generator works.  I did notice the water draining faster on one side as you mentioned.  This probably has a major role in creating the potential difference.  Is the water being ionized? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-ionization_of_water  Pay careful attention to the contents of this wiki article on the "Mechnasism".

Wikipedia says, "Electrolysis of pure water requires excess energy in the form of overpotential to overcome various activation barriers. Without the excess energy the electrolysis of pure water occurs very slowly if at all. This is in part due to the limited self-ionization of water."  If we can ionize the water, then the rate of HHO production from the magnets should increase.

Instead of using the spark from the static charge that builds up, maybe the magnets could generate the HHO gas quicker due to the water holding a charge or being ionized.

When the HHO gas is released from the system, water will need to be added to the system.  Why not have the water trickle from above to create a charge in the water due to it being ionized that may help the magnets in the HHO production?

It may help and it may not help.......just trying to improve on an already brilliant idea.

GB

I did some checking and found there is little additional work required to electrolyze water under pressure.

The minimum voltage required is about 1.2v to start the process, so water would need to move fast enough to generate this voltage or higher.

I think I will do some testing on this to see if this could be possible and at what point would it become perpetual if possible at all.

If the water is ionized, then it would require less than 1.2v, so the water could move at a slower rate in order to generate this minimum voltage.

here is a little MIT on the Kelvin Generator. old footage but still good. there is a newer MIT demo but I didn't post it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=algECMeQFrE

Here is a similar concept, except that in this case, electrolysis is used directly to separate the water where in my concept the path of the water over the magnets far below would separate the water in a spontaneous fashion without the need for electric current.

At some depth it is surmised that the expanding gas would provide all the required energy to operate the process.

 

i stumbled onto this post about 2 days ago..
and ever since then ive been making crystals from
potassium sodium tartrate......
rushed right out to the store that night and bought a bunch of baking soda and cream of tartar.
the method of preparing the salt, as prescribed in the link, leaves the water with some un-reacted sodium carbonate, which of course burns into a brown oxidation of sorts.. polluting the water.
it wont crystalize, so the crystals you remove from the water will be "pure". you can dissolve these again, into pure water.
heat, filter, and recrystalize. this will eliminate almost all of the impurities from the salt.

when i pulled out the magnets, i stumbled onto something interesting.


the crystals themselves dont seem to be affected by the magnetic field, at least not in any visible way...
but while growing them, there is an interaction between salt and magnet.
crystals grown without magnets, grow in random directions. either individually or in bunches.

but, with a ceramic ring magnet (magnetron) sitting with a pole up underneath the jar.....
makes all the crystals grow in the same direction. regardless of where they are in the jar, how close they are to each other, ect.

i havent tried changing poles, but i would presume they would just grow the other way, meaning their reference "nagative" pole would face the opposite direction.

it doesnt seem to affect the time duration of the crystalization.
and the heat produced from the process isnt any greater with or without magnets, in various orientations. the heat produced is proportional by volume, and is most noticible during the time between when the crystal-water mixture is a creamy slush,
and when it completely dries out. it may relate in some way to the crystal structure when it "hardens". i havent gotten anything "too hot to handle", but a 4 cup container's worth of mixture can register almost a 30-degree increase on the thermometer during that drying-out time. once the crystal hardens it cools completely and stays a few degrees below room temperature.

anyhow, i though i would share that bit about them lining up in the horizontal plane in the presence of a verticle-oriented field.

makes it easy to pull out some really nice crystals.

heres 2 of the crystals i made today

There was this Japanese scientist who was playing with magnets when freezing food.  Ever taken a strawberry and freeze it, then thaw it out months later and it isn't the same.  It is all deformed and mushy.  Well this guy put magnets in the freezer so that he would align the water molecules within the food.  Apparently you couldn't tell the difference between he pre-frozen strawberry and a fresh one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Charged-particle-drifts.svg

This is an interesting page of information. Notice that the movement of charged ions in a uniform magnetic field are just circular in motion, with no drift. However, two transverse magnetic fields cause ions to drift. The bottom illustration shows the movement of charged ions in the presence of two transverse magnetic fields. They are shown drifting apart!!!!

So my original thought experiment may have some merit as well. Only the magnets would not be at each end of the container, but on sides that are 90° angles to each other. Like at the bottom and on any side. This should cause a chemical seperation of the negative and positive ions.

Just thought I would share this information with anyone interested.

This is an inquiry from anyone who has experience working with very powerful magnets.

I purchased two supermagnets from United Nuclear:

https://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=70_71

I purchased magnets #21 (2" X 1"). Two of them.

That day I noticed I had a very terrible headache after handling them. I duct-taped one of them them onto an aquarium at the bottom and another on one side. The idea is to give a transverse magnetic field so the ions in a salt water solution would drift apart.

The headache went away overnight, but today, right after I handled them again, the terrible headache returned. This concerns me. Does anyone know of this type of symptom from handling powerful magnets?

Thanks in advance for your comments.